Someone claimed on the previous thread that there was a new poll out today showing the SNP on 49 seats. That seemed highly unlikely, and having checked I couldn't see anything. I then made five or six attempts to respond to the comment by asking if people were just inventing numbers at this point in the hope that no-one would bother checking. But I couldn't get my comment published. I don't know if the bug is at my end or if it's affecting everyone. I was going to ask people to let me know if they were having the same problem, but of course if they are, it would be difficult to tell me! You could always email me. And if anyone has seen this mysterious poll, please let me know about that too.
James - are you sure you've not been dreaming?
ReplyDeleteAbout what?
DeleteJames, I comment by phone and found that comments had gone into a second page which you didn't see unless you hot the load button at the bottom. Whether this is the same on a laptop, I can't say but it may explain any 'lost' comments.
ReplyDeleteJames I've just checked and your comments are there on the second page
DeleteMy own lost comments are all visible on the private dashboard but not on the site itself. The previous comment showing on the dashboard before mine is one of yours - you were talking about Skier. Was that one published?
DeleteYes I was and that is the second page on my phone. Your comments (6 of them I think) were part of the next conversation. Sorry I'm not a techie so can't be any help.
DeleteJames the 49 seats is just a Ukpollingreport projection made earlier today. (I found it after I saw the post here).
ReplyDeleteAlso you have posted the same comment 7 times.
DeleteAre you needling me because I said five or six? My sincere apologies for the lack of precision.
DeleteI’ve posted the poll on X it’s uk polling report model
ReplyDeleteI think this is proving beyond any reasonable doubt that the SNP have clearly bounced back under Humza's leadership and we can now push on and not only maintain the seats we have but gains. I'd predict 49-54
ReplyDeletePlease don't miss your medication again😁😁😁
DeleteYou've constantly been running down the snp and the nationalist movement for years. Whenever we get some good news you are desperate to pour cold water on it. Makes me think you are a tory.
DeleteWell you're wrong and obviously you don't think.
DeleteAnon at 8.55pm - why not go full in and say 58 seats?
DeleteI doubt even Humza expects to actually gain seats at the GE.
DeleteThe guy is entitled to his opinion and there is evidence to back it up tbf.
DeleteAm I entitled to dismiss his opinion if I think it's wrong or are you the Thought Police?
DeleteAye you're entitled to your opinion too, we all are. Me and others have our opinion about you and what you might be.
DeleteRight back at ya!
DeleteOur opinions about you have substance and some of your actions are illegal.
DeleteWHAT!!!?
DeleteOwen - could Declan be a member of the Thought Police right enough.
DeleteHe has an interesting use of language. Lots of 'we' and 'our' - must be the voices in his head. No doubt he's off to the sex shop to report us for hate crime.
DeleteHe's steadily getting angrier. I'm a Tory, you're a criminal, he'll be back later to accuse IFS of murder.😁
DeleteThere's been a misgendering in Maryhill…
DeleteBloody hell Felix don't give the guy ideas!!!
DeleteHe's had a wee bit too much to think.
DeleteAs someone who has posted criticisms of Yousaf I would like to strongly commend him for stating the truth that Israel has committed war crimes and the UK government is complicit. I would have liked him to have said so earlier but better late than never. There have been 5 months of murder and deliberate starvation, water and medical aid deprivation. C4 news reported last night that the murdering bastards called IDF are using AI to decide which building gets blown up and it disnae matter how many women and children are in the household who will get killed.
ReplyDeleteI just tried to post on the previous thread and it hasn't appeared. Pity, it was a hilariously scathing remark about the Liberal Democrats
ReplyDeleteKeaton - post it here is if it was that good.
DeleteKeaton, I saw your comment (about the uselessness of the Lib Dems?). Third one on the whole blog. I've no idea what has been happening but people seem to be having different experiences btl.
DeleteThe pro Indy share of the vote will be interesting at the GE.
ReplyDeleteIt will be down. Why? Because the SNP have pumped the brakes on independence. If you want to demotivate your core, Yes voters then that's absolutely how to do it.
DeleteThe lesson the SNP takes from this is up to them. I’m sure the Continuity Nicola faction will read a drop in votes as "we need more support from unionists." A conclusion that's so bass-ackwards it will destroy the party without an intervention. Anti-independence voters don't need an indy-lite SNP. They have full fat British Unionists to vote for.
Is it the same poll that has the SNP winning in Tunbridge Wells?
ReplyDeleteThis comment has been removed by the author.
DeleteTunbridge? You could tell it's a wind up if their English seat was Bath.
DeleteSorry to be really thick but can somebody tell me how to post with a username rather than anonymous please? I know it's been talked about lately and I'd use a name if I knew how. There's a little tab which has an option with name/URL. Is this it?
ReplyDeleteYes. Just type in your name and ignore the URL part. (Unless you have a URL you want to use.)
DeleteJust a quick test to see if a name makes posting harder than anon. Nothing to see here. Do not click the link, you have been warned!
DeleteNo, it works just as instantly, once I've jumped through the hoops.
DeleteI really don't like jumping through the hoops. I’m staying anon.
Sometimes, and especially on some days, I do get a whole sequence of comment posting failures. Sorry to have to delete so many copies of the same text from the moderation queue, James!
DeleteOne reason you'll sometimes see 5 or so from me is because I'll copy the text into another browser and try posting from there. Interestingly: this almost never works! One blogspot failure and you're in the dog house, it seems. I have even tried copying the text to my phone, turning off the wi-fi and posting from a different ip address via cellular. Same deal.
So I strongly suspect it's a blogspot thing, not a user-end issue. One of their servers is a dozy boy, perhaps.
Oh, and in the spirit of this thread:
DeleteA NUMBER I JUST MADE UP SAYS THE SNP'S TAGRET IS TO WIN -6 SEATS. ANYTHING ABOVE THAT THRESHOLD WILL BE AN EPIC SUCCESS FOR HUMZA. DON'T LET ANYONE TELL YOU OTHERWISE I AM ENTITLED TO MY OPINION AND MY FALSE EVIDENCE TO.
As for who the SNP's group of anti-MPs would be, my model doesn't say. It's just a plastic battleship for the bath. Still pretty cool tho.
DeleteI was advised how to use the URL thing by Indyref2 the other day and it worked fine. It is a bit of a pest having to go through the same rigmarole each time you post but it does solve the anonymity problem.
DeleteAnon@9:37, There's always the alternative of posting as anon but 'signing off' with a username
DeleteEG This is my comment
Joe Bloggs
Felix - I came to the conclusion some time ago that most of the anonymous posters just want to post as anonymous. I mean how hard is it for some of these one sentence posters to put a consistent moniker at the end of their posts. Not hard at all.
DeletePosting via url is a bit of a fag but adding say three letters like Joe or Sam at the end of your comment takes no effort. As you say, I think some people just like to avoid taking ownership of their comments in case they backfire.
DeleteI'd have to pick a name, though, and I'd take it as a challenge to try something (I ill-advisedly consider) witty every time. It won't likely end well.
Delete—Archie Hole
Hugh Jarse?
DeleteR Sole?
DeleteSome of the above are more than appropriate for some anon posters from WGD.
DeleteDick Head?
DeleteIsobel End.
DeletePatrick Harvey.
DeletePatrick Harvey😂The winner!
DeletePatrick Harvey, Hanza Yousef and Nichola Strathairn walk into a bar
DeleteThe bar empties.
DeleteYouGov are the most remarkably RefUK friendly polling outfit. Latest Westminster voting intention, field work 2 - 3rd April.
ReplyDeleteRefUK clear third force in UK politics at 16%. A mere 3% behind the Tories in England and third place in Wales ahead of Plaid Cymru and again only trailing the Tories by 3%.
What’s going on?
The only really reliable polling companies are Ipsos and Find Out Now.
DeleteThe rest, including YouGov, should be ignored or at best, taken with a large pinch of salt.
I broadly agree with you, KC, especially about Ipsos. It has the strongest pedigree in UK polling, going back to the 70s.
DeleteCherry picking polls, eh?
DeleteMy guess at what's probably going on with YouGov is prompting. James has discussed this for Alba, as well. A lot more people will say they'll vote for a party whose name is given to them in the list with all the usual parties. If you're not on that list, a lot of your (understandably less politically engaged) voters won't go through the bother to select Other and fill it in themselves.
Really, prompting is such a heavy thumb on the scale, all serious parties should be prompted for by name. The longer the list, though, the longer the phone interview and the more unweildy the online polling form. The pollsters want a high response rate, they really don't want people bailing in the middle. So there's a balance between too many and too few names to prompt for.
Anon at 9:15, I think you’re exaggerating a wee bit when you suggest these polling companies are far more reliable than the rest.
DeleteWhat I would say is, unionists like to dismiss polls from these companies because they don’t like the results. Personally I don’t think they’re any more or any less reliable, and if you take the average of all the polls then support for independence is probably around the 50% mark, which is very encouraging considering support for the SNP has dropped.
Regards polling for the upcoming GE, polls appear to be all over the place. I do however have a sneaking feeling it won’t turn out as bad for the SNP as some are predicting.
Jeff - " as some are predicting" - I have noticed a tendency of yours to misrepresent my positions/opinions so I am making it crystal clear to you that I have never forecast any result for the SNP or any other party and do not plan to do so in the future.
DeleteI do not wish to be represented in Westminster so I would prefer no MPs from Scotland in Westminster from any parties. I know that will not be the case but that is partly why we are still a colony. Sending MPs to Westminster is not standing up for Scotland it is bowing down to Westminster supremacy.
So if your sneaky feeling turns out to be accurate I really don't care. It will make no difference other than the SNP getting some more Westminster short money dog biscuits and a pat on the head.
IFS, my comment was a general one, and wasn’t aimed at you or anybody else.
DeleteJeff - just putting a marker down because you posted previously I wouldn't want a collapse in SNP MP numbers. I want Scottish independence not another 5 years of more hot air from people like Blowhard Blackford. Not helping out the UK by sitting on its Parliamentary Committees to get extra money for themselves. It seems if you are paid
Deletewell enough no humiliation is too great.
I would apply the Violette Szabo Test to the activities of certain people posting messages here. Just how would they have conducted themselves if they had been in captivity in Nazi occupied France? Sadly unimpressive, I fear.
DeleteI'm not standing in the next election.
DeleteI know who Violette Szabo is - the Carve Her Name With Pride heroine - but I don't get the point you're making. Can you expand on it?
DeleteBlowhard Blackford - I never said you were. That's why you started punting that SNP politicians should be allowed to get stuck in to the House of Lords trough. It will be a lot colder in the House of Horrors without all your hot air. .
DeleteI don't think any SNP reps want to be in the House of Lords sitting next to Alex Salmond
DeleteWGD numpty at 7.50pm - aye that's you Dr Jim - it was Blowhard Blackford who said he wanted to allow SNP politicians to sit in the House of Lords next to all the other Britnats.
DeleteOwen - silence from poster Lindsay Harnett. I guess Lindsay must be exhausted posting two lines. Sadly unimpressive.
DeleteThe age of a polling company is a good way to establish its quality of polling.
ReplyDeleteNo, it’s really not. Rasmussen in America has gotten so much worse in recent years (including the departure of Rasmussen himself) that FiveThirtyEight weighed them down aggressively from their election model for being a partisan pollster.
DeleteWe don’t have to rely guesswork. Every few years an election comes along and tests all the polls. That’s where reputations come from, not just branding. And certainly not just “well, they’re the nicest to my party so they’re obviously the best pollster.”
OT - from the Herald:
ReplyDelete"Motherwell 'deeply concerned' for player welfare on Dundee pitch"
There was a time they all picked on Rangers, now it's Dundee's turn.
Nasty lot.
Not as nasty as you
DeleteCan’t help yourself
DeleteSome absolute pish from Murray Foote, ex Daily Redcoat editor and architect/publisher of the infamous Vow that broke the Edinburgh Agreement and now Chief Exec of the SNP:-
ReplyDelete" By taking part you will be helping us further the campaign for independence as we fight the General Election. Only the SNP is on Scotland's side and only the SNP will stand up for Scotland. "
Only the SNP is on Scotland's side says the man who did as much as anyone to scupper yes in 2014 and unbelievably managed to worm his way into the SNP and then become Chief Exec. What an offensive comment. Just how many Britnats are there in the SNP - Lisa Cameron ain't the only one. What "campaign for independence " ?
Question for Foote - you are asking for money - where is the missing £600k? You are the Chief Exec don't you know?
They lost it already, ofc. In desperate need for more good money to follow bad.
DeleteNever give an addict the contents of your wallet. The SNP are the subsidy junkies of Scotland. They lie for every penny of it Here in Scotland. Only the Short money they are paid by London is honest. Keeps them on a short leash by the heel of their imperial master.
Be fair IFS you're far more offensive and a bigger liar than Murray Foote by pretending to be an independence supporter
DeleteSo says the WGD numpty at 7.48pm pretending to be someone with half a brain. So numpty where is the missing £600k ? You have been conned by Sturgeon and her pals and you are still being conned by Kavanagh. Cannae handle the truth - tough. Your SNP is being run by Murray Foote. It's called a Britnat takeover but halfwits like you cannae see it. Too cowardly to post using your WGD numpty moniker.
DeleteSome of the negative comments about SNP are wide of the mark.
ReplyDeleteReally? Did you lose 600 K behind the sofa too? Most of us would likely notice that…
DeleteDo the SNP accounts show us total annual figures for donations (Scots) versus the short money they are paid for their MPs at Westminster (Brits)? I reckon these two numbers could be very eye-opening indeed.
DeleteAnon at 5.40pm - just some are wide of the mark. Oh well I'll assume you are happy with my comments. Cheers😀.
DeleteHave you tried asking your pals / family how they might vote. Your average punter doesn’t do polling.. too busy with life. Your living in a bubble. Get yourself to East Kilbride town centre and open your eyes!
ReplyDeleteAsk who signs up to polls? Really wee man your must be on tha pills!
If only there had been plenty of elections before which we could use to judge the polls by their past performance.
DeletePolling analysis, as it were. Funny, that term reminds me of a certain blog…
Anon-whose-comment-I've-just-deleted: Yes, it is completely ridiculous to suggest the SNP will go from 48 to 49 seats, because they were on 45% of the vote when they won 48 seats and they're nowhere near that now. That should be a statement of the bleedin' obvious, but apparently it needed to be made, just for you.
ReplyDeleteDear me. Declan from the top of the page will be on to you about your negativity!
DeleteCheck out the TTF Great Scottish band, will make you feel so much happier. Humza and the great leader have finished the independence cause. Time to move on folks.
ReplyDeleteWell folks, the big day is fast approaching, the launch of Glen Rosa at Port Glasgow on Tuesday (hopefully with bridge windows fitted).
ReplyDeleteMany years late and many many tens of millions of pounds over budget, but never mind.
Hopefully lots of people will turn up waving their flags.
Independence, bring it on.
You’ll be inconsolable, KC. Chin up! Maybe England will have you back again.
DeleteStop lisping, Larry. Shut that door!
DeleteNot sure who’s launching her, I don’t think it’s Yousaf though.
DeleteOnly thing I did hear was, Sturgeon’s going to be aboard Glen Sannox when she finally makes her maiden trip.
Let's hope there's an iceberg in the Firth of Clyde.
DeleteSturgeon was never one to miss a photo opportunity.
DeleteNo doubt she’ll try and put some sort of positive spin on the debacle.
Nobody can say the ferry situation has panned out well. In fact it’s been a bit of a disaster if we’re being honest.
ReplyDeleteHowever Nicola Sturgeon was protecting Scottish jobs when the contract to build these two ferries was awarded to this yard, and credit should at least be given for that.
Once the current sea trials are complete and the other boats come along they will be a great boost to the west coast. Pity about the high speed train we all paid for. Shaving 3mins off from London to the North I.e. ( Birmingham, England) is a credit to the Brit nats. Anyone seen a train yet?
ReplyDeleteH
At least now a couple of the unionists involved in the delaying tactics of building these boats have been jottered
DeleteAnon at 7:42, what an utterly ridiculous comment.
DeleteAnonymous at 7:42, I’m embarrassed for you. No wonder you post as anonymous!
DeletePeople say Scotland is not a colony yet here we are speaking and writing in English. The language of the British Empire foisted on colonised people throughout the world.
ReplyDeleteKC - can you write something in British for me.
DeleteIFS, can you write something in American? English is the most commonly used language in the world.
DeleteKC at 10.95pm - a bit of a silly comment there - why would I speak American? I'm Scottish. You claim to be British - an imaginary national identity that has no original national language because it is an Empire construct. USA was a colony as well. You really don't do much thinking do you KC.
DeleteOk KC where is the British church - there is a Church of Scotland and a Church of England. Your British identity is a made up identity to facilitate empire building and colonialism.
I agree with you. KC is like a bluebird. A silly phantasm . I should know because I was reared in a world of mysterious shadows. I ached for chaos and coincidence but, oh!! Aaaargh. I scream like a wild ring. A creature few knew existed. Vienna deserves better.
DeleteIFS, well you do write good English, I give you that, and in the very very unlikely event of independence, will continue to speak and write English.
DeleteIFS, you could always learn to speak Gaelic😁 Though I imagine there are as many Gaelic speakers in your neck of the woods as there are down here in Dumfries and Galloway 😀.
DeleteAlba gu brath!
DeleteNicely on time comes this Twitter post from GrouseBeater.
Delete" People in self - determination conflicts are invariably linguistically divided. Indigenous language gives a people their national identity, whilst the colonial power imposes his language during the cultural assimilation process. Conflict is bound to arise as one side claims ' naebody speaks yon Scots oanymare', and the other side retorts ' speak plain English please. '
Scotland is a de facto colony and we have all been colonised. Some of us are more aware of this and are not happy about it, others like KC just ain't got a clue and are happy to try and be English but to the English they will always be third class British if born in Scotland.
Only the SNP can bring independence to fruit.
DeleteAnon at 10. 34am - not a fruit but a vegetable - carrots. But your carrots are looking more and more mouldy.
DeleteIFS, time to stop your ridiculous over the top criticism of the SNP. Hopefully not too many listen to you or we are in trouble.
DeleteIFS, so not happy with describing Scotland as a colony, we’re now a de facto colony! Oh dear, I fear you’re losing it completely.
DeleteAn SNP numpty and a Britnat numpty. What's the difference between the Britnat numpty and the SNP numpty above? The Britnat disnae have a clue what de facto means. Colony or de facto colony take your pick - same thing - Scotland gets screwed economically by England and Scotlands culture is rubbished and diminished by England.
DeleteEnglish - " The language of the British Empire foisted on colonised people throughout the world. " What I should have added to that sentence is it was foisted on the people not killed by the Empire. Speak English or you are deid.
DeleteOther examples of nasty colonialism are available as well. People speaking French in Africa. Spanish and Portugese in South America. Israel has failed to get Palestinians to speak Hebrew so the extermination card is on the table.
Ifs if the SNP wins a simple majority of the seats at the General Election in Scotland, the SNP conference voted that the SNP are then to begin negotiations to make Scotland an independent country.
ReplyDeleteThe SNP promised a 'no ifs or buts' referendum last October -didn't happen though, did it?
DeleteThere were specific factors explaining why the referendum in October 2023 did not take place. The fact it did not happen was not because of any lack of effort or will on the part of the SNP.
DeleteThe fact is that the only way to further progress on Scotland's journey towards independence is to vote only for the SNP in the upcoming elections. A vote for the SNP is a positive vote.
DeleteIt didn't happen because Sturgeon sent her tame unionist Lord Advocate to put the kibosh on her own case for holding a referendum in the Supreme Court.
DeleteA very unlikely story (10.56).
DeleteOf course the only party that can take us to independence is the SNP at the end of the day. Most realise this fact, I just dont understand people like ifs. Very strange.
DeleteAn SNP propagandist is having a good ol time on SGP. But I haven't being buying your carrots never mind swallowing your propaganda for a long time now. I'll repeat what I have posted many times on SGP. The SNP could have called a de facto Holyrood referendum at any time - on May 2021 or 19 October 2023 or, as I said, at any time.
DeleteAnon at 10.17am says:- " The fact it did not happen was not because of any lack of effort or will on the part of the SNP. " Read what I just said above. Please stop with your propaganda lies.
Anon 10.17 What part of "no ifs or buts" do you not understand? Is it the "no" bit?
DeleteThe lack of independence today is not caused by any lack of effort from the SNP towards that goal.
DeleteWhat effort have they made?
DeleteAnon at 1.01pm - anon at 12.47 is away waiting for instructions from Murray Foote on what to say.
DeleteSalmond said he would win the referendum in 2014. Didn’t happen though did it? Live is full of best intentions, hope , wishes and the rest. A referendum last October May have resulted in a similar result. After all for the past few years said all we had to do is side with the Brit nats and get rid of Nicola Sturgeon to get independence.Now the disturbers want rid of Humza. The SNP is still the major party by far supporting independence. Simple fact. Come the GE I hope theyput in the ballot paper Independence. It is then up to all who support an independent Scotland to get folk out to vote. If we don’t, we just assist the Brit Nat parties and wider right wing agenda of the tories and labour and of course some of the underminers.
ReplyDeleteIndependence for Scotland.
H
I agree that voting SNP is the best way forward for all in Scotland. All should vote SNP and not split the vote. The SNP conference voted that if SNP get a majority of seats then this would directly empower the SNP MPs to negotiate independence for Scotland with Downing Street.
DeleteYou haven't a prayer of getting independence based on a majority of seats which could be achieved on a minority of actual votes.
DeleteSNP is mandated for this by vote of conference.
DeleteThat said, people should vote SNP in order to give a majority of votes too.
DeleteAnon at 10:26, well said, time for people to waken up before it’s too late and get behind the SNP.
DeleteH, at least Salmond held the bloody referendum! What happened to the "no ifs or buts" one? Too many "ifs"or too many "buts"?
DeleteAnon at 10.30am - the trouble with you SNP people is you make up so many stories about independence you cannae even get your phony promises consistent. Yousaf said on TV he would ask for a sec 30.
DeletePersonally I think when someone keeps making false promises the longer you go on believing the next false promise the bigger the fool you are. Only fools believe what comes out from the SNP on independence.
H thanks for the name check at the end but your post is mince. What Sturgeon's gang have done to the SNP is a tragedy. If you don't hold a referendum you will never win one. What a pathetic excuse by H for not holding a referendum - we might lose it says H. Are you always this pathetic H. Do footballers go "let's not play in the cup final we may lose it and that would be devastating". No they do everything they can to win.
IfS: it was mandated by a vote at SNP conference.
DeleteAnon at 1.29am - why tell me I ain't a member. Tell Yousaf and all the others that cannae tell an honest consistent message on independence. Independence is so important to the SNP it cannae deliver a clear message on it to voters. Is this by design or by incompetence?
DeleteAnon @ 1:29
DeleteIf conference had decided that winning even a single seat would constitute a mandate for independence, would that make it so?
The sad state of affairs over at the other party of Yes:
ReplyDeletehttps://i0.wp.com/wingsoverscotland.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/greenconfs-1.jpg?w=1280&ssl=1
That's 2023 vs. 2024's spring conference stage. What's missing? My vote, for one thing.
Suppose there’s something commendable to their honesty at least. Not even pretending to be about indy any more. Like the SNP, they will get no vote from me until they change their mind.
All independence supporters should vote SNP otherwise they will split the vote.
DeleteThe Greens are not really an independence party as such. Some members are opposed to independence in fact a former leader (who is to be fair a nice man) was.
DeletePeople considering that the Greens are for independence should now instead vote SNP.
DeleteAll independence supporters should avoid the SNP as they are a unionist devolution party.
Delete11.01 is wrong. The SNP is the only party that independence supporters should vote for. All other votes are a wasted vote.
DeleteAnon at 11:09, indeed totally agree.
DeleteWhat's gotten you so anxious today? "I agree! I agree! Woof woof and eat your carrots!"
DeleteThe SNP will get my vote when they return to independence. Not till then.
@10:57
Yeah, I know. I voted for Robin Harper anyway, as back in 1999 through 2011, independence wasn't a live issue. 2014 transformed all of that. There's no way I'd vote for a party which does not put independence first.
A veritable tsunami of 'I agree with myselfs' this morning. Is it something in the air?😆
ReplyDeleteAnon at 11.20am - SNP propaganda in the air.
DeleteYes. I think half the comments this morning come from the same person, the use of language is a dead giveaway.
DeleteHe's an oddball, all right.
DeleteEven astroturfing is wasted all the way down here on a long thread. Who would ever look?
He seems to be having a panic attack that the SNP will be found out as frauds before the election can be held.
DeleteYes I agree. iFS is never pro independence for Scotland.
DeleteWho are you agreeing with here? Tsunami of I agree with myself, SNP propaganda, astroturfing, SNP are frauds? I think you've misread something😁
DeleteLike many, I haven’t been overly impressed with the SNP in recent years. However, it’s my opinion people are going to have to get behind the party soon. They remain the only realistic party to take us to independence.
ReplyDeleteYes indeed. The SNP is the best available vehicle. All who believe in independence should vote SNP --that will be for the best.
DeleteThe vehicle is still impounded by Polis Scotland!
DeleteThe independence vehicle has been parked for 10 years. The motorhome has only been parked for 3 years.
DeleteNow, in the absence of a genuinely democratic socialist platform being presented by people like Corbyn/McDonell who's political doctorine was consistent to the founding principles of the Labour Party, I personally will vote SNP this year.
ReplyDeleteIf I wanted the Thatcherite platform Starmer/Reeves/Streeting etc are presenting, I'd vote Tory.
Comparisons Starmer and Blair are incorrect. Firstly, Starmer is well to the right of where Blair in economic, social and foreign policy (terms even compared to where Tony was latterly in his premiership). Blair also had an outstanding social and interpersonal skill set and could develop positive, respectful and mutual camaraderie and dialogue with most people.
Starmer is no Tony Blair.
Very good stuff to read. I am delighted to read that you intend to vote SNP. Encouraging.
DeleteGorbals - When Blair lied he was good at it and it would take people a while to realise it was a lie. With Starmer he just blatantly lies and you know he is lying and you know you are a fool if you believe anything he says including his promises. The trouble is that people are so desperate to get rid of the Tories that they would vote for anybody.
DeleteLabour under Starmer's gang are phonies.
The SNP under Surgeon's gang are phonies .
I will be voting ISP and I don't care if people say it is a wasted vote. People used to say to me voting SNP was a wasted vote. It is now.
ISP have a policy of non attendance at Westminster and as I do not want to be represented in the House of Horrors at Westminster, the home of Empire, currently arming the murderous IDF that suits me just fine.
The ISP is not a good option as it will split the vote.
DeleteSplit who's vote? Who do those votes *belong* to?
DeleteOh yes: us, the people!
@Gorbals &IfS
DeleteI quite agree with your view of Starmer. He and his lieutenants are lightweights and yet more extreme than Blair's stable of Thatcherite mercenaries. I came of age in Blair's day and was appalled at what he did to the left. Starmer is a pale copy. He'd have no chance at all if the Tories weren't already on the way out. It's so much like 1997 again, only without the talent and the (mistaken) hope.
It'll be a hard time for the Yes movement. But I suspect it will be a much needed reset for our cause, once Scots see through this new generation of London Labour.
IFS: the SNP MPs do good work in the House and carry a lot of weight there in terms of discussions, PMQs, etc. Worth voting for as they are advocates for independence.
DeleteISP ?! You will split the ALBA vote to about 5 folk. Still good that you are voting for who actually?
DeleteIsp is quite unlikely to win seats. All it will achieve is that the vote is shredded and SNP will lose the seat.
DeleteAnon 1.55 What are you worried about then? Let others do what they want with their vote - it belongs to the voter, not the SNP.
DeleteIt's incredible how these SNP people think they own my vote. It reminds me of Labour in days gone by.
DeleteISP actually want independence unlike the phoney SNP.
Brits they can understand. Indeed, they’ve come all too fond of them in London. But Scots who want independence? Shut up and stay in the box!
DeleteColonial mind is contagious.
ISP -isn’t that the rump end of the socialist/ Trotskyite’s parties that continually self-implode every few years? Power to the people as they say or power to some ego’s. There is nothing certain in this world but voting ISP for Independence has to be a spoof programme with Ant & Dec? Who’s their leader again? Or is it a joint committee type arrangement. I vote for Coffee or is it tea?
DeleteAnon at 3.51pm - even if everything negative (and more) you said was true it would still be better than voting for Britnats posing as independence supporters. The SNP has Murray Foote in charge. Apart from being a Britnat he had to resign for lying about membership numbers.
DeleteIFS, who are ISP? Never heard of them.
DeleteI’d imagine a wasted vote for sure. Makes no sense whatsoever.
The only wasted vote for a supporter of independence is an SNP vote. If you haven't learned that in the last 10 years, you never will.
DeleteDisagree. SNP is not a wasted vote as the SNP are the main party of independence. Other parties just shred the independence vote.
DeleteIf you want to see examples of double standards and hypocrisy I give you WGD. The numpties are complaining about Branchform again. The numpties were just fine about the polis when they took ages and spent a fortune investigating Salmond but now it is the Sturgeon and her gang being investigated the numpties think it is outrageous. Similarly, when Sturgeon binned Michelle Thomson on a rumour and the polis took 2 years to say they were never investigating Thomson in the first place the numpties didnae care.
ReplyDeleteWGD numpties - they ain't just stupid you know.
Why do you read WGD?
DeleteHe can't vote for who he wants, he can't read what he wants - welcome to 'progressive' Scotland under the SNP.
DeleteWGD is SNP friendly.
DeleteThey're a good reminder of what an echo chamber looks like.
DeleteKeep an eye on them when the election result is in. There's an awfie lot of spinning due.
IFS is a proud example of why Scotland won't vote for Alba, he's done to this blog what he did to WOS, except this blog won't throw him out and expose him
DeleteThen stop crying about it. You obviously hate Alba, Wings and SGP so you should be grateful to IfS for ruining them. You sound like a big girl's blouse to me.😁
DeleteSo many upset WGD numpties posting anonymously. Or is it just the same WGD numpty? No matter how many they all post pish most of the time and they most certainly are not " a proud example" of anything.
DeleteAmon why do you post on SGP?
ReplyDeleteWhy not?
DeleteSame reason as asking IFS about Wee Ginger Dug. The difference is critical views aren't allowed there so all you can do is read as the mods won't let you contribute.
DeleteHe seems to dislike wgd - so why read it?
DeleteFor a laugh.
DeleteComments on WGD are only taken down if they are abusive, unlike this blog who deletes what he doesn't like, and he's only allowing more comments so he can spring another gimmie money or I can't analyse meaningless polls
DeleteRemind you of any other blog? flap flap
"If you want to mouth off about how much you dislike the SNP leadership there are other forums where you can do that. You’re not welcome to do it here".
DeleteFrom the preamble to the blog by the Big Dug himself. No comments allowed that don't accord with the hive mind.
The discussion to be fair on WGD is of a high quality. I wondered however why read it if it is not to ones own taste?
DeleteWhy lie about its moderation policy just so you can get a cheap dig at James on SGP? Is it any wonder he deletes your comments?
DeleteAnon at 7.28pm - you are lacking in imagination and judgement but don't worry you ain't the only one.
DeleteJust to be clear I have always got on well with IFS and treated him with respect and I hope he will acknowledge this.
ReplyDeleteDifficult when he doesn't know which anonymous you are.
DeleteAs I have explained before he will recognise that a subset of the comments under the anonymous label are respectful towards him.
DeletePardon my cynicism but the fact that you refuse to add any type of identifier to your comments suggests to me you are a wind up merchant although what you get out of it is a mystery to me.
DeleteI hope a lot of you will be heading to Port Glasgow tomorrow to witness the long awated launch of Glen Rosa.
ReplyDeleteDon’t forget to bring your wee saltires to wave as she slips down into the Clyde.
I’m sure it won’t be quite as high profile as when Queenie launched Glen Sannox to great fanfare back in 2017, but a proud moment none the less.
Ferguson's shipyard in Port Glasgow has a proud history and the workers there are a great group of workers. The launch deserves to be given due prominence.
DeleteIt's worth pointing out that a launch is not the completion of a ship but merely a milestone in the journey towards completion. Much too much has been made by hostile elements in the media about Glen Sannox.
There is a lot of new technology in these vessels leading to long and variable lags between the milestone of the launch and final completion.
The work on these contracts represents an important learning opportunity that will place the yard in a good position in future.
Rather than criticism the SNP actually deserves a lot of credit for investing in Scottish shipbuilding in the first place and having a strategy around the shipbuilding space.