Thursday, April 10, 2025

Doomsday poll for Labour has them in a distant third place on just 22% of the vote - and Rachel Reeves is almost as unpopular as Donald Trump

Regular readers will recall the oddity of the monthly Freshwater Strategy / City AM series of voting intentions polls, which are almost invisible - even City AM themselves don't always seem to report the results.  However, the latest poll is such a horror show for Labour that I thought it would be remiss of me not to dig it out.

GB-wide voting intentions (Freshwater Strategy / City AM):

Reform UK 28%
Conservatives 27%
Labour 22%
Liberal Democrats 14%
Greens 5%
SNP 2%

Until very recently, 22% would have equalled Labour's post-election low, but More In Common have recently reported a new record of 21%.  But 22% is still an abysmal figure, and given that it puts Labour six points behind Reform *and* five points behind the Tories, there's a case to be made that this is the worst poll for Starmer so far.

I've gone through the records to see how Labour's current predicament compares with how the party performed under Jeremy Corbyn.  The lowest Labour vote share I can find during the Corbyn tenure was 18%, which may well also be the record low for Labour since the Second World War - I'm not aware of comprehensive records being available anywhere, but I can't think of any other period since 1945 (including even the early 1980s) when it's remotely likely Labour would have dropped so low.  Even under Corbyn, only a tiny percentage of polls had Labour sub-20, but nevertheless it did happen occasionally, so technically Starmer can still claim to be not quite as unpopular as Corbyn was at his absolute lowest points - but the way things are going, he may not be able to make that claim for very much longer.

There are net approval ratings for leading public figures, and both Starmer (-39) and Rachel Reeves (-43) are very nearly as unpopular as Donald Trump (-44).  What will be even more alarming for Starmer is that on the head-to-head question about whether he or Kemi Badenoch would make the best Prime Minister, Badenoch is the clear winner by a margin of 40% to 32%.  That's the question that is often considered more predictive of election results than even headline voting intention numbers.  I'm very surprised to see Badenoch ahead, because the public's reaction to her has been tepid, so it must be assumed she's only ahead by default because Starmer is so loathed.

One of the reasons these Freshwater polls are going largely unnoticed is that they do not appear in Wikipedia's list of polls.  There's a very confusing discussion on the Wikipedia Talk page about the rationale for excluding Freshwater - it basically boils down to the fact that Freshwater are not members of the British Polling Council, but the Wikipedia users can't even agree with each other about what they had previously agreed their policy should be on non-BPC polling firms.  I'd have to say those who are claiming that it was previously agreed to include non-BPC polls must be correct, because Lord Ashcroft polls have appeared on the list for years, and Ashcroft isn't a BPC member.

One user claimed that if they included non-BPC polls, they'd soon find themselves including self-selecting Twitter polls, which is a piece of absolutely hysterical hyperbole.  There are about a billion increments between a BPC poll and a self-selecting online poll.

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26 comments:

  1. It is a matter of deep regret to all of us in the Alba Party that Chris McEleny has chosen to personalise this poll.

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    1. Poll after poll shows that Chris McEleny is a mad dog who needs to be tamed.

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    2. Cheer up.. the Cozzienostrals have a new cd out.. thinks it’s called songs and laughter in Ayrshire. Does anyone have the track list?

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    3. Why do they have to be so creepy

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    4. The potatoe anthems.

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  2. It just goes to show that England is right wing whereas Scotland is not.

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    1. There are quite at lot of quite conservatives that only come out on polling day. Maybe they are emboldened by Farage and showing their hand a bit earlier these days in Scotland.

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  3. These numbers look odd. How come SNP are on 2 percent when they always seem to be on three. Reform at the top.

    Cons and Reform getting more that 50 percent between them. City AM are right leaning.

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  4. Pathetic English scum voting for these Nazis. No wonder the world hates them.

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    1. Dead right, the English would rather vote for anybody that promises them riches more than their next door neighbour
      The English are greedy barstewards that would step on anybody,
      mostly Scotland

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    2. Zzzzzzzzzzz is the correct response. Please use it. Stop wasting ink.

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    3. Do you think the English didn't invent the concentration camp?
      Do you think the English didn't slaughter millions around the world to build their empire?
      Do you think Scots were not marched in chains and sent on boats like slaves to other countries by the English?

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  5. Tommy Sheridan is going to Make Alba Great Again, except naw

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  6. What I find remarkable is that Rayner's ratings aren't down there with her colleagues. She's as bad as any other anyone could name.

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    1. She has the Ginger Factor.

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    2. I want to go on holiday to Scotland and avoid places haunted by working and lower middle class groups of jaunty vacationers.

      Suggestions please.

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    3. We want to visit Scotland and avoid places haunted by working and lower middle class jaunty holidaymakers. (The vulgarity!)

      Suggestions please for which thanks.

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  7. Many ordinary Labour party activists will be demoralised by this poll.

    SNP activists now have a spring in their step.

    Thanks James - another great blog post.

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  8. Just a gentle reminder, guys - there's a level of vicious trolling at which point I can and will switch pre-moderation back on. So if you keep screaming unhinged abuse at me six times an hour, the only effect will be to put a total end to your ability to scream unhinged abuse at me even once a day. That strikes me as being counter-productive behaviour, but it's up to you.

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  9. You've now moved on from abuse of me in multiple posts per hour to inciting genocide in multiple posts per hour, so I think any reasonable person would agree you've left me no choice. Pre-moderation will be switched on as a temporary step for a few hours to give myself a break from having to deal with your destructive and frankly illegal behaviour.

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  10. Is David Francis misbehaving again?

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  11. Nope, it's some Reform radge.

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  12. It was the growing plausibility of the SNP surviving as the Scottish Government, and that alone, which convinced me to rejoin the party.
    Disregarding the idiots and would be wreckers, sensible readers of SGP need to ask themselves who/what will we be electing ? Another bunch of troughing suits trying to stay just a wee bit left of Labour wont move us an inch towards self determination.
    Get to your branch and candidate selection meetings, ask about commitment to elected representative accountability to party democracy and individual commitment to an active strategy for independence - don't vote for careerists and leadership hacks.
    There is a way forward if enough of us do this.

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  13. Agree to a point. I know many councillors and activists who are always pro independence. On the other hand some council leaders and some MSP’s are too happy with their pay packet and don’t won’t to rock the boat. Argyll comes to mind as well as the usual suspects in the central belt.

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  14. National & Herald : Ash Regan calls for summer independence convention.
    "Hi, I'm still around ! " says Ash

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