A couple of preambles to this. Firstly, although the intensity of my interest was perhaps not quite as great as "feminist bloggers" such as Stuart Campbell (no chortling at the back), I did watch the live-feed of the Supreme Court ruling on the definition of a woman, and I was enormously relieved by it. And although the Scottish Government were nominally defeated, I suspect they (or at least many within their ranks) will be privately relieved too. The position they were arguing for was incoherent and would have been a festering sore if it had been upheld. In principle, these decisions should of course be taken by solely Scottish authorities and interpreted solely by Scottish courts, but in a universe where that doesn't yet happen, the Supreme Court has at least gifted the independence movement with another golden opportunity to draw a line under the destructive gender identity wars, and let's hope we take it.
Secondly, although this blogpost indirectly relates to the Holyrood numbers released from the Find Out Now poll yesterday, I'm being slightly cautious about covering those numbers until I see the data tables, which at time of writing have not been published yet. Regular readers will understand the reason for my caution after the bizarre drama of the last Holyrood poll from Find Out Now at the start of this year, when the results were initially misreported and Ballot Box Scotland then "blacklisted" Find Out Now on the basis of how implausible he found the misreported numbers to be. (For reasons only he can explain, he seemingly didn't reverse that decision even after the error came to light.)
Nevertheless, the results of the new poll as they've been reported do point to pro-independence parties winning 79 seats at the Holyrood election next year, and unionist parties winning only 50 - which would obviously be an overwhelming pro-indy majority. Mr Campbell has written a scathing and probably rather foolhardy blogpost in which he not only claims the numbers are obviously ridiculous, but specifically attacks John Curtice's method of projecting constituency seats. I think I'd just gently point out that Professor Curtice, as the UK's leading psephologist bar none, is unlikely to have not thought his projection model through in the rather simplistic way Mr Campbell is suggesting, and that if the numbers do turn out to be wrong in any way, it'll be because the vote share percentages were wrong, not because Professor Curtice knows less about how to convert percentages into seats than Mr Campbell does.
Nevertheless, Mr Campbell is so sure of himself that he offers a wager to any of his readers who think pro-indy parties will actually win 61% of Holyrood seats (which is what 79 amounts to). But just one snag, Stew: you've already said there is "zero" chance of pro-indy parties winning a majority of seats next year, which means of course that the benchmark for your certainty is 50.1% of seats, not 61%. So why are you only offering a wager based on 61% of seats, not 50.1%? This wouldn't be your crafty way of downgrading your previous monumentally stupid claim, and doing it with such bombast that you hope no-one will notice?
If not, please confirm that you're also offering wagers based on your original claim, made only four months ago, that there is "zero" chance of pro-indy parties winning 50.1% of seats. Who knows, I might even be tempted myself.
Imagine have to say: "Thank goodness for the UKSC ruling", as madness recedes.
ReplyDeleteThe jocks need London to keep them in their place.
DeleteI was all for the GRR (which I read) as the legislations needed tidying up and the process made less offensive. And the reason I was for it was because it was safeguarded by the Equality Act 2010 (which I also read).
DeleteBut then it went too far, and the ministerial guidance wasn't written in to law, and in the event was absolute rubbish. Plainly unlawful even to a lay eye.
Now hopefully this can all get tidied up, and perhaps the ScotGov might actually start to care about trans people rather than virtue signalling and "progressive" garbage, and make compromises to make a new GRR Bill do what it should gave done in the first place - work for the Trans people not the extreme activists, while fully in accord with the Equality Act 2010.
A serious question I have is that in view of this ruling, if a woman who has transitioned to become a man now wishes to enter a 'woman only' space, will they be allowed to do so? Similarly, if they are given a custodial sentence, will they be sent to a women's prison to serve that sentence?
DeleteSkier is raging. No more trips to the ladies.
DeleteBREAKING NEWS: Skier is still on about toilets
DeleteCampbell moves the goalposts so often on his predictions, that it is impossible to take any of them seriously.
ReplyDeleteMost of them have been wrong, in any case.
Campbell should stick to English politics.
ReplyDeleteSo Sturgeon/Yousaf/Swinney have wasted all these years and loads of public funds pushing their social engineering crap when they were voted in to deliver Scottish independence.
ReplyDeleteI posted that this was all a waste of time years ago. So are these people wasters or was it all done to help destroy independence? All they have done is take the SNP way down in the polls but independence is still strong. So if that was their motivation in pushing this crap then they failed at that as well.
Getting so many things wrong didnae stop Swinney giving each of his government Ministerial team a £20k per annum pay rise.
Only a devolutionist government would keep going to the UK SUPREME COURT. A court only recently established by Tony Blair of all people.
Oh for heavens sake IFS.... pull your trousers up and give your mouth a turn..... and dont forget to apply your 'lippy.'
DeleteJudges sided with campaign group For Women Scotland, which brought a case against the Scottish Government arguing that sex based protections should only apply to people that are born female.
DeleteScottish Skier ( Declan ) will be raging.
Anon troll at 11.50am - a perfect example of the disgusting trolls that populate this blog and many others. No case to argue just infantile abuse.
DeleteIFS pot and kettle.
DeleteThe court accepts that various pieces of legislation passed at Westminster are contradictory.
DeleteIfs - thought you had left the independence movement (if you were ever there) and ran off to Spain. Appears your desire to be called a women is the real reason you blog on here.
DeleteAnon@12:36, How much drivel can you squeeze into one comment? IFS has no desire to be a woman, he went on holiday to Spain (crime of the century apparently), and he doesn't blog on here - that privilege is reserved to the site host, IFS comments same as you except he makes more sense.
DeleteIfs, own up we know it’s you.
DeleteIFS went to Spain on holiday ? To meet up with his pal, Bawheid Boy ?
DeleteAnon troll at 1.04pm - no it's not me at 1.01pm. You seem to see me everywhere. Been diagnosed with paranoi mr anon troll?
DeleteIdiot anon troll at 12.36pm just makes up stuff and posts it. Just another lowlife troll at 12.36pm.
Anon@1:04 You know nothing of the sort. Still if it helps your inadequacy to refer to yourself as 'we', knock yourself out.🤣
DeleteAnon troll at 1.13pm - I went to Lanzarote that's in the Canary Islands in the Atlantic Ocean. Barrhead boy lives in Barcelona. Barcelona is located in north west Spain on the Mediterranean coast.
DeleteThese trolls ( assuming it is not just the same person) are not just lowlife disgusting people but they are pig ignorant as well.
Barrhead Boy stays in Barcelona, Campbell lives in Somerset. They care about Scotland so much that they don't want to live here.
DeleteAnon 1.32 He should be 'Barcelona Boy' !
DeleteIfs, look on the bright side, at least kc has gone
DeleteAnon@1:34 agreeing with himself at 1:32! Pathetic.
DeleteAnon 2.06 How's the weather in Bath ?
DeleteI don't know, I live in Glasgow. What's it like to be so insecure in yourself you have to agree with your own comments to pretend you have support?
DeleteBarcelona is in Catalonia which is north-east Spain. The north-west would be Galicia where Vigo and Santiago de Compostela are. Happy to help.
DeleteAnon at 3.49. Yer paranoid.
DeleteAnon at 11:50 AM
DeleteMirror mirror on the wall,
You already lost your single ball.
Now you think you're IFS,
Wrong again - you stupid pest.
Anon@3:49, Do you understand what paranoid means? Or are you just irredeemably thick?🤣
DeleteAlba will come to Scotland's rescue.
ReplyDeleteLOL
DeleteNice one.
Campbell is rejoicing in the anti-LGBTQ+ ruling from London.
ReplyDeleteIt combines all his favourite things: London rule and transphobia.
DeleteThere is nothing in that ruling that is against homosexuals or bi sexuals. Please stop posting misinformation.
DeleteAll sensible people are rejoicing in the ruling. Stop adding other groups to the ludicrous trans lobby.
DeleteLondon rules OK
DeleteActually based on this we move on to discuss independence.
DeleteThere was no anti LGBTQ+ ruling today or any other day. Today's ruling that sex in the Equality Act refers to biological sex ensures the rights of gay and lesbian people to be same sex attracted and to exclude those of the opposite sex from their spaces. Trans people remain protected under the Gender Reassignment characteristic but can't override the protections afford to the other 8 groups protected by the EA. There is no first among equals!
DeleteAnon 12-37 Alba will lead the way.
DeleteAnon 1:22 time for your meds.
DeleteSo calling Scots jocks is racist. Just in case our reform plonker doesn’t understand
ReplyDeleteHow is it racist ? My granddad's name was Jock.
DeleteGranddad? Name is derogatory term. Sadly many Scotch folk in the army and living in England accepted the term without standing up for themselves. Pat the dog on the head. What was you grandpa's real name?
DeleteScottish isn't a race any more than Belgian isn't (and there are twice as many people in Belgium), and Jock is a diminutive of John.
DeleteScotch folk ? Whisky drinkers ?
Delete"Secondly, although this blogpost indirectly relates to the Holyrood numbers released from the Find Out Now poll yesterday, I'm being slightly cautious about covering those numbers until I see the data tables"
ReplyDeleteYou're keeping Christopher McEleny on the edge of his seat!
He tweeted yesterday complimenting your analysis and that he's looking forward to your next take. Didn't realise he was such a big fan.
Neither did I! Truly humbling. But I'm sure not even "Mad Dog" would want me to comment before the data tables allow me to verify the published figures - which turned out to be completely wrong last time (a fact that he mysteriously failed to acknowledge, just an oversight I'm sure).
DeleteRather strange that some so called independence supporters don’t want independence parties to win at Holyrood. Maybe it’s the heady air in Bath, England and in Spain.
ReplyDeleteIt’s an embarrassment that N S and her clique could get such a simple thing so badly wrong. Hopefully we can now set this nonsense aside and get on with progressing Indy. So much harm has been done in the last four or so years. There needs to be a clear out of the clique.
ReplyDeleteThe law is the law even if the law from westminster is conflicting.
DeleteDon't talk about ALBA like that. There is no clique- we're just good friends!
DeleteAll ten of you ?
DeleteAnon at 2.09. What? I suspect you have posted something similar a few posts down. Same question. Which are you, disingenuous or stupid? Or maybe both?
DeleteAnon at 3.11. I heard there were 500 of them. All called Spartacus.
DeleteIt was pushed through without proper discussion due to ideological blindness. Law forced through that way is always bad law.
Deletetrannies need to be sectioned
ReplyDeletewhy do we still experiment on animals when we have them available
If you say so Adolf.
DeleteWhat is it you have against small radios?
DeleteValvies will be relieved
DeleteAmazing that violence is proposed against individuals. Seems the right wing low life still lurks in the gutters.
ReplyDeleteThe Wings mob are out in force.
DeleteComing on top of another poll suggesting 56% in favour of independence the sentiment has not gone away.
ReplyDeleteGet the election candidates sorted and mandating for independence and we could be exiting this foul union.
Disappointing that Joanna Cherry and some of Scotland's women don't support Scottish independence and chose to endorse English law over Scots law for their personal grievance
ReplyDeleteIf you want to change a law do it in your own country
This was not a constitutional argument
The Equality Act 2010 is UK wide, hence it is not devolved.
DeleteNice try, but no banana for you.
Anon at 3.04. Which are you, disingenuous or stupid? Maybe both. Silly billy.
DeleteSince you unwisely brought up Joanna Cherry, here she is herself:
Deletehttps://archive.is/D0COF
Is she still supporting Ash ?
DeleteYesindyref once again you prove yourself an idiot
DeleteAh - my anonymous creepy stalker strikes again. Steeeeerrike 3 - yer oot!
DeleteWhy is this not branded as part of the Wings Watch series?
ReplyDeleteIf you actually want the literal answer, it's because my broadband connection is down and it's too much hassle to add the image by phone.
DeleteCould never stand Paul McArtney
DeleteCommon sense judgement which removes no reasonable 'rights' from anyone.
ReplyDeleteConfirms that sex is binary and 'a woman' is solely defined by biology in the EA.
SC also confrmed tha Scotgovt guidance, although ultimately found to be erroneous, was in complete compliance with the advice given by the EHRC at the time.
Time to move on from this issue and concentrate on the bread and butter issues confronting most Scots and explaining how Independence can address thise better than the Yoonion. .
I agree wholeheartedly with that, David. Time to move on. The SG will, I hope, now give public bodies clear guidance in line with this judgement. This process should take no more than a few weeks.
DeleteLet the trans activist fringe in the SNP decide if they want to stick around. Whatever, it's onwards to independence.
It should never have happened in the first place. Sturgeon and her zealots caused all this trouble.
DeleteHow's yir wee boaby Franicis..
DeleteYou seem to suffer from penis envy.
DeleteJoanna Cherry: "Politicians, former politicians and lobbyists who are seeking to whip up a moral panic and to suggest that trans rights are under attack ought to read the judgment, act responsibly and stop spreading disinformation."
ReplyDeleteAnd the same goes for journalists, who have already started I see. in their rush to be "first into print". Troublemakers all of them.
It's the Scottish legal system and government that's under attack you idiot
DeleteNo it isn't, you anonymous ignoramus.
DeleteHow does the Supreme Court decision apply to a wonan who has transitioned to become a man? Are they now reclassed as women?
DeleteChapman on spouting divisive lies about the S C judgement denying trans people their human rights. If she gets into a position of authority within the Greens they can forget my list vote. Why do journalists never ask her to be specific about which human rights are endangered and in what way? If she causes even more Indy damage with this crap she will do more than lose votes. She will find Indy supporters actively campaigning against her. Even Alba is preferable to the crap she spouts.
ReplyDeleteNobody can ever tell you what rights trans don't have that everyone else has. That's because they have exactly the same rights as the rest of us but they want the 'right' to harass women as well.
DeleteChapman: “Trans people just want to be able to live their lives like any of us, without the fear of prejudice or violence, but today they have been badly let down."
DeleteThe ruling makes absolutely no difference at all to the rights of anyone at all, including trans people, to be legally protected against violence - or prejudice. Absolutely none. How dishonest can you get?
The lead judgement explicitly states that the ruling does not do what Chapman is dishonestly claiming it does. Disgraceful conduct from an “elected” representative.
DeleteForget about human rights when Farage becomes prime minister.
DeleteAnon at 6:14 PM
DeleteYou turned left and wandered into the wrong forum. Go back and turn right.
You have the brains of a Twinkie if you can't see what's been done here
DeleteAnon at 6:58 PM
DeletePretend you're on our side of the Pond and try a Cadbury's Fruit and Nut bar.
You don't think Farage could be PM ? Really? The English electorate gave us Brexit and Johnson, I wouldn't put it past this to put Farage in 10 Downing St.
DeleteNo no no, you turned left AGAIN and wandered into the wrong forum. Go back AND TURN AROUND FIRST, then turn right
DeleteThe Supreme Court is transphobic.
ReplyDeleteironic for a bunch of men in wigs dressed like widow twankey
I bet they've got suspenders on
they could get done for hatecrimes if they step over the border
DeleteAnon at 5:38 PM
DeletePlease take your fantasies elsewhere.
Lord Chief Frank n Furter is offended by your remarks yesindyref2
DeleteThese anon numpties make you look like an intellectual giant yesindyref2.
DeleteShhh you're giving away my secrets. I think this is their highbrow song:
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YysWbPzkgpo
I see the sheer hypocrisy of Wings/Campbell is off the scale today.
ReplyDeleteHe overwhelmingly praises the SC verdict.
Fair enough.
He then describes it as some sort of 'great victory in an on-going war', which is exactly the type of incendiary language the SC, whose verdict he so admires, today told people not to use.
Ok , what stops a bloke shaving his beard off where casual clothes and a hat entering a women’s area?
DeleteYou kind of miss my point.
DeleteShould some women wearing “men’s” clothes be banned. How do we know they aren’t?
DeleteIt's a victory for common sense and shouldn't have been necessary.
DeleteHe should concern himself with English politics, he lives there after all.
ReplyDeleteFrom the Herald:
ReplyDelete"Bomb squad shuts down Edinburgh street after 'suspicious item' found"
Is that where Sean Clerkin [1] got to these days?
[1] replace by your own choice of clown ...
IFS
DeleteAnonymous at 9.53pm is my choice of clown.
DeleteSturgeonism is over. The Age of Nonsense has come to an end. A man is a man. A woman is a woman. That is all. Everybody in Scotland is either male or female.
ReplyDeleteNow can we please get back to where we were seven years ago before the independence movement was hijacked and ruined?
Indeed.
DeleteIt’s incredible the self inflicted damage the SNP have done in recent years, which obviously hasn’t helped the independence cause, to put it mildly.
nutters taking over and ruining legitimate political movements has a long history - e.g. the hippies and the anti war movement in the 60s
DeleteWhat absolute drivel. Remember the conflicting laws came from England. Still you will ignore that pretender
DeleteAh yes, because under Nicola Sturgeon’s leadership, the SNP totally forgot about independence and focused solely on the radical agenda of… acknowledging that trans people exist. What a monumental betrayal!
DeleteNever mind she led the party through unprecedented electoral success, Brexit chaos, and a global pandemic — all while juggling the unthinkable task of showing basic human empathy towards the LGBTQ+ and other marginalised communities.
Clearly, her unforgivable crime was not ignoring which progressive issues you dislike most.
Thank goodness we can now return to the glory days of shouting “a man is a man, a woman is a woman” as a political strategy. Independence? Who needs that when we've got conservative biology lessons instead.
“ Conservative Biology” Biology is a science. There is nothing progressive about ignoring science.
DeleteSome conservatives believe the world is flat
DeleteSome flatworlders believe the conservatives
DeletePeter A Bell will get us independence.
DeleteNow that is delusional
DeleteEngland seems less progressive than Scotland.
ReplyDeletedoes this mean briggite macron, michelle obama and lorna slater now have to piss in the mens bogs?
ReplyDeleteits like the holocaust, or something really bad, like running out of milk when you wanted cornflakes
trannies will now be forced to hide in the attic writing in their diaries about cute boys they like
Deleterumour has it patrick harvie was constructed from the leftovers when lennie slater had his penis rolled up inside him into a vag
ReplyDeleteYou can use capitals, Stu.
DeleteJust vile comments by gutter posters
DeleteRight wingers tend to be lowbrow.
Deletelorna and patrick should both trans themselves to show support in this dire hour of need.
DeleteI may be in the gutter, but I am staring at the stars
DeleteFrom elsewhere (laughs):
ReplyDelete"Indy supporters look on gravely concerned about the growing repression of minorities ..."
Skier seems to think 51.4% of the population in Scotland is a minority.
IfS in anon mode.
DeleteAnon on the mode.
DeleteOn anon anon
DeleteAnon at 8.32pm - not me. You seem to see me everywhere. Paranoia can be treated.
DeleteAnon on anon
DeleteRather pleasingly I've just realized 'regressor' is an anagram of Ross Greer. Just thought I'd share that.
ReplyDeleteNow let’s concentrate on getting a mandate for independence
ReplyDeletewith another mandate westminsters position will be untenable
DeleteJames: Are you going to accept the revs offer of a bet. You could crowd fund it?
ReplyDeleteCampbell uses crowdfunded bets to bully people.
DeleteTo the best of my knowledge he hasn't offered me a bet. If by any chance I'm wrong about that, by all means tell him to email me and set out the terms of the offer. He definitely knows my email address, because he used it four years ago to send me an email out of the blue calling me a "c***" (almost certainly an illegal act) and then ironically a day later he used it to get his solicitor David Halliday to send me implied legal threats about what would happen if I didn't censor somebody else's comment attacking Campbell's repugnant views on the Hillsborough tragedy.
DeleteI offered an open bet to anyone, James. You still count as a person, because being a deranged obsessive stalker who's now written SEVENTY-TWO articles about me doesn't alter your genes. Just let me know how much you want to bet.
DeleteOh here's the big man. Thinks he's so fine throwing his crowdfunded money around like Tory toff Lord Brocket! What a total roaster.
DeleteNow that the real truth about the Hillsburgh tragedy has being exposed, has Campbell ever offered an apology to those he wrongly accused of being responsible?
ReplyDeleteNo, he never has.
DeleteSeen slugs with less slime than Campbell.
no one should ever forget the 6 trillion who did in the heyselborough-olo-caust
Deleteit was the bizzies
and thatcher
Anon at 1039. Away and crawl back under your stone.
DeleteOk you fagile weasel.
ReplyDeleteIt is free!
ReplyDeleteI really do hope all the trans men out there decide to do malicious compliance - and join an many "women's only" things as possible to show how stupid this ruling really is
ReplyDeleteI don't think you've really got the hang of this trans thing. All the trans people of either sex or gender I know just want to get on with their lives and not be pestered by the likes of extreme trans activists.
DeleteAnon at 2:26 AM
DeleteIt's worse than that. It is saying that transmen who were (and are) women by sex, but want to be men by gender, dress and act like men, and legally can do that, should be dishonest and pretend they are women by gender as well as sex, so as to enter women only spaces.
It seems to me that using that slur on transmen in general is transphobic by definition.
Don't overthink it YIR2. It really is very simple.
DeleteInescapable biology. You can't change it any more than what you had for breakfast yesterday.
Mike Lothian. You are part of the problem. The decision is on a specific point of law. It removes no rights from anyone. What is your problem with the decision? And be specific.
DeleteMike are you a transman? Is that your problem? Is that beard you sport a stick on?
DeleteBiology is never 100% definitive 100% of the time.
ReplyDelete. Folk are occasionally born that do not fit. Makes are XY , females XX. But there are individuals that are neither: eg klinefelters syndrome people are XXY.
Some others are born with a mixture of cells some of them with sex chromosomes XX others XY.
A "woman" can be born without a uterus. Genitalia can be ambiguous - a small penis or large cliterus?
Simple folk like simple definitions but it isnae aye reality.
Read the judgement. The decision is on one issue. It does not remove rights from anyone. It is not a problematic point. Piggybacking another separate issue onto it doesn’t help.
DeleteIt's based on " BIOLOGICAL SEX" but this is not always absolute - this is my point!
DeleteIf that's your point, so what?
DeleteSo in a few cases per thousand assignment at birth is arbitrary.
Deletepeople with big hands tend to be men
Deletecorrelation is not causation
some women can get the lid off a jar
its all so confusing
Anon 10.42. Are you thick? If you go doon that route a' things are correlation in this. XX ( USUALLY) correlates wi female .
DeleteHaein a uterus usually correlates wi being female.
Mind I'm no all for backin the transloby- I think that they should hae medical evidence to back up a certificate.
Science is lacking in this debate!
An there is causation - if the genetic differences between XX an XY are not expressed through the complex chain of DNA to RNA to protein / enzyme gradients then all sort of complex situations are CAUSED! Clearly a person who is Neither completely XX or XY also is caused to be......different!
DeleteLearn a bit of basic biology folks!
Anon at 10.14. Your “point” adds nothing. Can you make an actual point?
DeleteLittle point talking about independence, the SNP clearly aren’t interested.
ReplyDeletethe SNP need to be removed from the independence movement
Deletethey are just blockers by now, done nothing since 2016 except pad the pension
the biggest asset the union ever had, which is why they will be protected and why Nikki was allowed to get away with her fraud, blaming, ridiculously Murrell because "he had it all on his laptop and wouldnt show me"
independence being deflected by the usual britnats on here pretending to be pro indy but are anti SNP, Green
DeleteNeither is IFS
DeleteAnon 10.45 - who decides who is a member of the Yes Movement ? Do you pay a fee to join / Who is on the committee ? Is it run by Alba ?
DeleteAnon at 10.45 am ... a wise decision to post your libelous pish anonymously.
DeleteAt least that endless Britnat troll KC has finally pissed off.
DeleteAnon at 11.49am - instead of posting meaningless comments get yourself a hobby.
Deleteifs - away and bile yir heid
ReplyDeleteInstead of obsessing about me and posting meaningless comments I suggest you get a proper hobby before the men in white coats come for you.
DeleteThe public dont bother with these sites but seem to have made their mind up over the labour party and are moving to SNP. Must annoy the brit nats who have returned in force from their foreign hols
ReplyDeleteDr Jim where is your evidence that the SNP is going up in the polls. Strange that someone (Dr Jim) who supports the SNP policy of Scotland in the EU has a problem with people going on hol in Europe. Mind you Jimbo has never shown any logical consistency so I don't suppose he will start now.
DeleteTranswomen are not women.
ReplyDeleteThey are transwomen.
Transmen are not men.
They are transmen.
GRCs do not change those facts.
Yawn
DeleteGRCs do not change anything. .However , you are probably yet another Britnat simpleton. Look up at anon 7.50 , 11.11 an 11.16.
DeleteBiology is biology !
Queer Theory is absolute garbage and should be binned.
DeleteAnyone who believes that discredited trash should be allowed nowhere near government or have any influence on our institutions.
Personally I wouldn’t let you near anyone.
ReplyDeleteagree, so many bigots and full of angry people.
ReplyDeleteThe notion of Self-ID is surely now dead in the water.
ReplyDeleteAnon 12.05. Yes self- ID was probably always an inadvisable policy . However , using medical evidence would surely be a sensible compromise.
DeleteThat was the case previously.
DeleteYes, thank goodness. Now it's time to work on overturning another stupid concept which is equally impractical in the real world - electric vehicles.
DeleteWeird transition there.
DeleteHe Self- electrified.
Delete