"We are direct, confident, and proud in what we have to say – we speak boldly and with clear intention."
How would you actually go about enforcing that as a rule? Would you take disciplinary action against Alba members for not being "bold" or "proud" enough? It's clearly a nonsense, and yet the Appeals Committee showed no interest whatsoever in engaging with the questions I raised about whether the social media policy is enforceable. Therefore it must be assumed that it is enforceable, and these other extracts must be taken very seriously indeed -
"if comments become abusive, we will report them"
"Special care needs to be taken by members who have chosen an ALBA party logos or pictures as a cover photo or profile picture as they may appear to the public as representing the ethos and values of ALBA."
"Social-Media Platforms like Twitter can be fast and furious but being abusive to individuals online should be regarded as a red line whether it is in an exchange with fellow members or those outside the party."
I am now outside the party, but as you can see that makes no difference - the position is apparently that Alba members can and should be disciplined for abuse of someone like me. I have today been abused on Twitter by someone who is almost certainly an Alba member. He calls himself "Bill Under Colonial Rule", and he prominently displays the Alba logo in his account's cover photo.
If there are any decent Alba members reading this, I'd be grateful if you would report Bill for this blatant breach of the Code of Conduct and social media policy. Because Chris McEleny has an absolute veto under the current rules on whether complaints ever reach the Disciplinary Committee, I'm afraid the complaint will need to be made to him in the first instance. Please let me know if you do that and what the response is (if any). Incidentally, it doesn't matter if you don't know Bill's full name, because according to the Colin Alexander precedent, McEleny should still investigate to discover the man's identity and then take action against him once his Alba membership status is established.
I believe it may be technically the case that non-members can lodge complaints too, so if all else fails I'll try to do that myself, but it'll almost certainly be a waste of time, because McEleny's modus operandi is to completely ignore emails if he feels he can get away with it.
However, there's an even more serious case than Bill that urgently needs to be raised. A Twitter account popped up a couple of weeks ago called "Alba 2026" to support Kenny MacAskill in the leadership election. It has posted extreme personal abuse about me, Denise Findlay, Leanne Tervit and several others, but by far the worst tweet, which undoubtedly should result in disciplinary action in any political party, is this one mocking Eva Comrie's disability -
That tweet was hastily deleted a few hours ago, and now the whole account seems to have been deactivated. I believe that has happened because people started to clock who was behind the account. The writing style and set of preoccupations are obvious giveaways, as indeed is the retweet about Imran Khan - not a subject that most Alba troll accounts would take much interest in. I believe this person is a very senior member of the Alba Party, a former NEC member and a former national office bearer.
So if you're a current Alba member, I'd also be grateful if you'd lodge a complaint with McEleny about "Alba 2026" and invite him to establish her identity. And please let me know what the response is.
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James, I've e-mailed you and asked for your assistance multiple times in the comment section of the last blogpost.
ReplyDeleteI have a pathetic scum impersonator posting comments using my name and I'm disappointed that you've allowed that to continue. It's turned into a madhouse but you don't seem to care... sort it out!
David, I have been incredibly patient with you but please take this on board. The moderation policy on this blog is a matter for me and not for you or for anyone else. Comments demanding that I take certain moderation decisions, or attacking me for the moderation decisions I do or don't take, will usually be deleted. One thing that is clearly forbidden by the moderation policy, however (and has been even when that policy was more liberal in 2008-15) is excessive and extreme swearing, and you were certainly guilty of doing that yesterday. I do believe that was you and not your impersonator. So please stop doing that.
Deletethis is not the real dave francis
DeleteI am the real dave as you can see I dont do paragraphs which is how you can tell
no
DeleteIm dave francistacus
James, that was NOT me you were responding to.
DeleteIt was one of the seemingly numerous impersonators I seem to have collected recently and perfectly highlights the very problem I stated in my email to you.
It is bad enough having to deal with the various Anons on here, but it becomes even more difficult when other posters steal/use my own name for a series of posts.
I suppose I should feel flattered that they have considered me 'lmportant' enough to actually take the time and trouble to be my doppelganger - I must really annoy those irrelevant wee cruds, which pleases me no end.
However, I will renew my call for some action to be taken against those who deliberately impersonate others on here.
It simply should nog be permitted on any blogsite.
How can I possibly take the action you're demanding, when as has just been demonstrated, it is utterly impossible to tell you apart from one of your impersonators?
DeleteYou really cannot tell from their contents?
DeleteI would have thought it was pretty obvious.
No. If you're saying the comment at 2.41 that I initially replied to was not you, I do not see how I could possibly have worked that out from its contents. It reads exactly like you. Doubtless he'll be along in a minute to insist you're the imposter.
DeleteWho to believe David Francis or David Francis? An enduring mystery.
Delete“ It should nog be permitted on any blog site” - well this David doesn’t seem to be able to understand this sentence by James in his post above.
“ The moderation policy on this blog is a matter for me , not for you or anyone else.”
James really couldn’t have spelled it out much clearer for David but still he persists.
As my family keep reminding me, I am definitely NOT 'tech savvy' so I take it that, as I am now posting from my own Google account, it solves the problem about proper identification on here, from now on?
DeleteFfs I've got imposters setting up fake Google accounts now... is there no end to their obsession with me!?
DeleteDavid Francis@4:11,
DeleteIndeed.
I strongly suspected straight away the “David Francis “@3:45 was your imposter who had created a Google account.
Unbelievable the lengths trolls go to.
I understand your annoyance David, but you’ll just have to ignore it as best you can.
I'm confused. Is the official David Francis not the real one then? I can't tell the difference.
DeleteJakey the imposter is so like David Francis you would think he has a twin. Doesn’t augur well for the future of this blog having two David’s posting.
DeleteI am schizophrenic Spartacus. Oh no I'm not! Oh yes I am!
DeletePerhaps Mr Francis can solves his probs by posting anon. Or maybe he would think he had lots of impersonators?
James pretty disgusting stuff by Bill and alba2026. That tweet by Bill under colonial rule is also the sort of stuff David Francis posts on SGP but here he is above ( assuming it is him) whining away about you not sorting it out for him on SGP.
ReplyDeleteIfs - you have no evidence but it doesn’t stop your allegations.
DeleteAnon at 3.06pm the evidence for David whining is above at 2.41pm or look at the btl on the previous article. Surprised you missed it all. I suggest you check your facts before posting in future.
DeletePrize deflection, IfS
DeleteIFS.
DeleteYou are a Blatant Liar and you are also a Coniving Coward hiding behind a made up name.
Would also not surprise me in the slightest if either you, or someone at your behest, is impersonating me on here - such is the snivelling, cowardly, underhand and spineless nature of creepy wee nonentities like you, pal.
That wasn't me... just another pathetic scum imposter.
DeleteAssuming you are the real David Francis who claims to be a member of the SNP - what branch is that again David? - Independence for Scotland is not a made up name it is an expression of my desire. Is David Francis a made up name you say it is real but you cannae say what branch you are a member of to prove it. I feel sorry for anyone having to attend branch meetings with you. You are the SNP equivalent of Chris McEleny.
DeleteYou say I am a " blatant liar" - well tell me what I am lying about - this should be interesting. You have been whining away to James pleading with him to do something about posts you don't care for. You have been doing that ever since you appeared as David Francis the Mr ANGRY of SGP who loves to use CAPS.
Ifs is a made up name. What does yir mammy call you? Wee tadger?
Delete4.50pm it clearly is not a name. Just as anon is not a name. So what is wrong with you that you feel the need to post in this way.
Well done and well said James! What’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. Alba seem to be very selective about ignoring some people whose social media accounts are allowed to spew vitriolic hate against others and in particular former members, and by the same metric target folks such as yourself for what amounts to criticism of policy and not of personalities.
ReplyDeleteIt’s actually incredulous that they continue to target folk who have actually left the party and have no interest in Alba other than as an objective observation of any party and its policies. Almost as if they cannot look to their own behaviour and take responsibility but have to deflect the failure of the party to progress on those who have left.
I think the likes of the wee fat unicorn and her dad are just as bad as the others. Hide behind a screen, taunting people. Great blog post as usual. This is why we left or got suspended/expelled. Standing up for a democratic way to run a party.
ReplyDeleteTo stand up against bullies. It's like a school playground.
Is it wise to idolise politicians?
ReplyDeleteI hope a lesson has been learned here by all those who support Scottish independence - do not idolise politicians - creating an environment where independendence supporters idolise one or another politician is at the root of the problems we experience now.
I have stated this years ago on SGP. I saw strong evidence of it at George sq Nov 2019 when people were queuing up to get selfies with Sturgeon as if she was Beyonce. She is not Beyonce and is not even an independence supporter but blind hero worshipping means they cannae see what is staring them in the face. She is just a politician and it's what politicians do, not what they say, that counts.
IFS - St Nicola is one subject that I can 100% agree with you. Self-absorbed and self-regarding, she manifests “I love myself better than you, I know it’s wrong but what can I do?” more vividly than any other politician I can think of.
DeleteYet she was a terrible FM, responsible for so many bad decisions, wasted public money, illogical and self-defeating public policy, and general mismanagement. Now she rears her head again, taking public pops against (nearly equally useless l, it must be admitted) Yousaf. Get thee to a book festival, preferably abroad, and stay there oh Sainted one!
How dare you criticise Nicola...
DeleteWE were LUCKY to have her lead the way during the pandemic. You imbeciles should be kissing her feet!
Right KC I know it's you impersonating Francis - it's the type of thing you do and you have been missing recently with your inane Nessie type posts. Britnats like you were lucky that numpties like Francis idolised Sturgeon and couldnae see she was on your side.
DeleteKC is trying to save the Union.
DeleteIFS,
DeleteSorry to disappoint you, but once again you’ve got it wrong.
I can assure you I’m not the one impersonating David Francis.
Well you would say that KC wouldn’t you.
Delete“ kissing her feet” that job has been taken by a very good and famous crime fiction writer. Umm what’s her name again?
DeleteAm I the only person in Scotland who thought that getting advice about a virus from a lawyer and a dentist was a national disgrace?
DeleteNo, I doubt you're that special.
DeleteAnon at 10.20. I think you might be the only person in a special kind of way , but it’s not good. You are a unique arsehole.
DeleteWhy the photo of Jimmy Reid ? Jimmy wouldn't have touched Alba with a bargepole.
ReplyDeleteRidley is an admirer of Jimmy Reid.
DeleteThe original Alba when it was set up.
DeleteNot this shower, unless McAskill or Regan can get rid of the nonsense.
The original Alba was flawed.
DeleteWhich doesn't (quite) mean that it's too late to do better.
Scottish budget - “ ALBA Party Holyrood leader Ash Regan MSP has come to an agreement with the Scottish Government to back this year’s budget”. on the same ALBA web page SNP held hostage by Lib Dem’s, The 2 candidates for ALBA’s lead place should maybe have a wee chat. The party just looks silly.
ReplyDeleteAsh is the party whip at Holyrood.
DeleteOoh err, Ash with a whip. Oooh matron.
DeleteI’m the David Frances who doesn’t spank the Bobby.
ReplyDeleteI use paragraphs and don’t use caps to make a point even when really, really angry.
I have no idea who this KC person is by the way.
He has a Sunshine Band.
DeleteI'm the monster of Loch Ness! Och aye, och aye, oh yes!
DeleteIs there a David Francis who doesn't have a drinking problem?
DeleteAre you David FRANCIS Ryan....of Iowa?
ReplyDeleteYou owe what?
DeleteYeh the disrupter(s) are at full blast today. I suppose the good thing it shows how worried they are. Still the “leaders” of ALBA could make a statement condemning the actions of some members.
ReplyDeleteIt actually shows them taking the piss with impunity and rendering the btl almost unworkable.
DeleteThe tweet about Comrie is rancid, do these people have no soul.
ReplyDeleteWhy do Alba always write their party name in caps? Do they want it to be an acronym or something
ReplyDeleteYes, I've wondered that from the start. It's an official thing, Alex Salmond himself did it.
DeleteI am sure it was to distinguish it as a political party from the Gaelic, Alba I.e. Scotland. It was a form of respect if nothing else.
ReplyDeleteLOL
DeleteIt's Spanish for DAWN.
DeleteJohn Swinney has written a very thoughtful piece about the Labour party in the Guardian today. He deserves praise for taking the time to write it, given that he has a very busy life.
ReplyDeleteToo busy for Scottish independence.
DeleteThe clever thing is at the end of course:
Delete"For Scotland, the real prize, of course, is to become a member state in our own right for the first time. It is striking that EU countries very similar to Scotland enjoy higher productivity and greater equality than the UK. For Ireland, it has been said persuasively that it was the policy flexibility that came with independence, alongside EU membership, that enabled economic take-off.
For the rest of the UK, ..."
and he manages to publish that in the Grun.
You still have to bribe nurses in Estonia to change someone's bedding.
DeleteAnon at 7.43. Well done. You are wank of the month this early.
DeleteTo all:
ReplyDeleteUnlike Wings, I gather that SCP does not have anyone on payroll whose job it is to moderate the forum. James Kelly does it himself by hand.
So it falls to all of us who support James to approach comments in a way that means he does not have to spend a lot of time on this task, as it would divert his time from writing new posts.
Agreed, we should come together and elect who shall become the next David Francis.
Delete“ James Kelly does it himself by hand.” Great. Much quicker than using his feet. Nice to know though, thanks.
Delete"So it falls to all of us who support James to approach comments in a way that means he does not have to spend a lot of time on this task, as it would divert his time from writing new posts."
DeleteNice try, chaps, but when I reach saturation point with the trolling, I don't stop posting. I just switch pre-moderation on. So you'll have to find a different plan.
The important thing is the article. Anything worthwhile below the line is a bonus but not essential.
DeleteDripping in irony.
DeleteIMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT
ReplyDeleteI am not now nor have ever been David Francis.
I was Spartacus once. Freedom.
Is the person James is referring to Tasmina Ahmed Sheikh?
ReplyDeleteIs this name
DeletePont d'Allan Mademoiselle
the wrong way around?
Mademoiselle Pont d'Allan at least makes sense in French, the honorific going before the surname & not vice versa.
"Is the person James is referring to Tasmina Ahmed Sheikh?"
DeleteNo.
Fog on the Tyne's all mine all mine
Fog on the Tyne's all mine
COME ON
9.42 Non. Ce n'est pas mon nom de famille. C'est la ville ou je reside.
DeleteI like the chip shop there.
DeleteNice chip shop.
DeleteYou're not the only one who comes here for a fish supper.
DeleteJust want to make it clear the prick who’s created the Google account using my name should be ignored. Sad that some people have nothing better to do with their time.
ReplyDeleteI repeat, please ignore this idiot.
ignore the imposter
DeleteThere was a guy on WoS did this…. Oh wait…
DeleteThe 10.22 PM David Francis is DEFINITELY not real.
DeleteAll David Francis are idiots so best ignore them all.
DeleteYou cannot form the relevant plural words but yeah someone else is an idiot. Laughable.
DeleteLol.
ReplyDeleteI could have a football team of 'me's on here now.
Get a life, you copy-cat Tit.
Ta.
Will the real David Francis please stand up please stand up
ReplyDeleteAre you really going to go and live on Mars?
ReplyDeleteI would just like to say that I am the real anon and the rest are imposters. David Francis you have started a protest movement against imposters.
ReplyDeleteChants of “There is only one David Francis, one David Francis” will soon be heard at football grounds around Scotland.
You are an inspiration to all people who have imposters following them around.
In your honour proper paragraph's will be outlawed in the future but until then I honour you by ignoring them.
Your song “ The One and Only “ will remain a favourite for decades to come.
David I salute you.
Thank you.
DeleteI really appreciate your ingratiating subservience.
You are welcome master Francis. Please use CAPS a bit more in future - you know you want to. It adds so much more to your beautiful posts. PRETTY PLEASE.
DeleteGhosts don't exist, except in the imagination.
ReplyDeleteGhosts are of and in the machine.
DeleteBe afraid. Be very afraid!!!!!!!
Thoughtful piece by Swinney in Guardian.
ReplyDeleteIs James really James?
ReplyDelete