tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post978577202896743814..comments2024-03-29T07:45:30.620+00:00Comments on SCOT goes POP!: A third full-scale poll shows the SNP with a commanding Westminster leadJames Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-27695923276223857392014-11-07T14:59:54.391+00:002014-11-07T14:59:54.391+00:00All manner of reasons, but the principal one is ef...All manner of reasons, but the principal one is effectively that we have no idea what will happen in the GE AND promising such a thing could very well alienate no voters who are planning on voting SNP to back up devo max. If we go all out for another indyref, they won't vote for it. Not to mention that if you adopt that policy and UKIP only get 10 or so MP's, we may only get 10-20 seats and labour will walk in and there would be no eu in/out referendum.<br /><br />Also, it's worth remembering that it takes YEARS to leave the EU. So IF there was a yes to leave the EU, then it would still be a few years to wait....not only that, but this all becomes mute if Scotland also votes to leave.chalksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-79608843231613254682014-11-07T12:29:26.995+00:002014-11-07T12:29:26.995+00:00Farage is saying his price for propping up Cameron...Farage is saying his price for propping up Cameron would be a summer 2015 EU ref, not 2017. <br /><br />Why can't the SNP run next year on a platform promising Indyref2 right after the EU one? Sean McNultyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17417132693074694333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-13262182653267773302014-11-07T12:25:08.016+00:002014-11-07T12:25:08.016+00:00The hit we'll take from the TV debates could b...The hit we'll take from the TV debates could be neutralised by months of anti-Miliband sniping and the Red Tories falling 5% behind the Blues. <br /><br />At the prospect of a certain Blue Tory Govt we may well see another few % swing from the RT to the SNP, thus cancelling out the TV debate damage.<br /><br />Of course if we can find an answer to the debates AND the above unfolds then we could be looking at RT wipeout. Sean McNultyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17417132693074694333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-33326063622373095322014-11-07T10:06:57.642+00:002014-11-07T10:06:57.642+00:00I often see Labour types complaining that Panelbas...I often see Labour types complaining that Panelbase is a "dodgy" pollster. Is there any basis for this at all? Surely in the referendum they acquitted themselves better than YouGov and TNS, whose results in the last few weeks bizarrely took a sudden leap into the range that Panelbase had been consistently recording throughout the campaign.<br /><br />Even from a partisan point of view, it's strange to see him complaining about this poll, which is no worse for Labour than other recent ones, and considerably better than the Ipsos MORI.keatonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-57843109743840744302014-11-07T00:56:10.007+00:002014-11-07T00:56:10.007+00:00Of course it's nice to see support for Indepen...Of course it's nice to see support for Independence is now 2 from 2 out of post-Indy polls. I take little happiness that we didn't do it for 'real' on the 18th, but if we can keep building up levels of support for the next one bit by bit, so we go into the next campaign with a healthy lead. <br /><br />And also the large dash of salt is required that this purely speculation, this question alone. There will not be a referendum in the near future, but still, 2/2 so far - let's keep going and getting as many SNP MPs in next year. Then Holyrood hopefully a large majority of pro-indy SNP, SSP, Greens in the hoose plus a possible EU referendum.<br /><br />It's interesting. Very. <br /><br />Kevinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-7330015157743896462014-11-06T23:07:28.238+00:002014-11-06T23:07:28.238+00:00"He must be a very stressed man"
More l...<i>"He must be a very stressed man"</i><br /><br />More likely Foulkes in neck deep in the new Brown Blair wars and leadership plotting. So he's scrabbling around desperately for some kind of distraction as the leaks about senior Labour figures and MPs wanting little Ed out the door hit the news and papers.<br /><br />Foulkes is <i>very</i> well known in westminster media circles for leaking and spreading the dirt on his colleagues.Mick Porknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-87738006401280832572014-11-06T23:02:27.716+00:002014-11-06T23:02:27.716+00:00So much for the out of touch westminster bubble tw...So much for the out of touch westminster bubble twits idea of 'saving' the London branch office by sending in the Eggman. Far from doing so Murphy is looking at yet more catastrophic polling for them and even before he's made leader the Brown Blair wars have already restarted with plots to get rid of little Ed hitting the news and papers today and tomorrow.<br /><br />I'm sure the Eggman's Blairite chums have nothing to do with that of course. ;-D <br />Perhaps little Ed didn't should have warned Murphy about the catastrophic polling in scotland. Or perhaps not.<br /><br />Poor old little Ed and the Eggman. You would need a heart of stone not to laugh.<br /><br />LOL<br /><br />Ah well, it's the incompetent fop's turn soon enough with Cameron poised to take yet another beating from the kippers in Rochester. Tory backbenchers will go into full headless chicken mode afterwards, (yet again) leadership plots will resurface, Cammie will flounce and posture like a maniac as he does his John Major impersonation. (yet again)<br /><br />Textbook. :-)Mick Porknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-43014994080860395952014-11-06T22:58:49.892+00:002014-11-06T22:58:49.892+00:00If we're to believe George Foulkes' pollin...If we're to believe George Foulkes' polling wisdom, this one is a hoax. On this poll George Foulkes tweeted: "Poll by a dodgy pollster for an even dodgier website...". He must be a very stressed man.<br /><br />Amnesia or convenience, he seems to have missed the recent IPSOS Mori polls which give Labour an even worse reading. Unless IPSOS Mori & STV are also dodgy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-19440718321088965852014-11-06T22:48:56.569+00:002014-11-06T22:48:56.569+00:00I find the EU results the most interesting about t... <a href="http://wingsoverscotland.com/the-reluctant-internationalists/" rel="nofollow">I find the EU results the most interesting about this.</a> Excluding Don't Knows, it's 52% stay and 48% leave. 57% of Yes voters want to stay compared to only 48% of No voters. There's everything to play for in any future EU referendum.Stoatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-46829613881348592692014-11-06T21:47:50.488+00:002014-11-06T21:47:50.488+00:00Tick-tock chief...Tick-tock chief...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07147575839527866642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-55421794777600854902014-11-06T21:27:16.488+00:002014-11-06T21:27:16.488+00:00"if the independence referendum was tomorrow&..."if the independence referendum was tomorrow"...<br /><br />...but it isn't.WeSaidNoToYesMennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-67271033694901775222014-11-06T21:21:53.206+00:002014-11-06T21:21:53.206+00:00Wings over Scotland said the the phrase, "kno...Wings over Scotland said the the phrase, "knowing what you know know" is a neutral one.BrianPowellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-2006285885778300372014-11-06T20:49:35.599+00:002014-11-06T20:49:35.599+00:00Sure. However, if the polls stay as they are or Ye...Sure. However, if the polls stay as they are or Yes builds up a lead, then there will need to be another 'only poll that counts'. Certainly would allow pro-indy parties to e.g. include a new referendum in 2016 manifestos. That's democracy.<br /><br />The No campaign really needs to get into gear and persuade Scots of the value of staying in the union.Scottish_Skiernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-74764476334793235182014-11-06T20:31:43.904+00:002014-11-06T20:31:43.904+00:00And what luck that the "one poll that mattere...And what luck that the "one poll that mattered" had a result that was tied to a grandiose last-minute "Vow", which London must now either honour or suffer the consequences.<br /><br />Nice try, though.James Kellynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-67263403476223518342014-11-06T20:19:52.650+00:002014-11-06T20:19:52.650+00:00As was said time and time again there is only one ...As was said time and time again there is only one poll that counts.<br /><br />And it was on the 18th September 2014.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-23499927153631831422014-11-06T18:56:28.808+00:002014-11-06T18:56:28.808+00:00That preamble was put in as the people polled were...That preamble was put in as the people polled were people that voted 45 yes 55 no....so it shows a swing based on whats happened.<br /><br />Whats interesting is people have gone from yes to nochalksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-36516501799700552462014-11-06T18:41:58.720+00:002014-11-06T18:41:58.720+00:00"Knowing what you know now..."
So does ..."Knowing what you know now..."<br /><br />So does that mean as soon as we invent time travel we'll be independent?Sunshine on Crieffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-82361434056620784332014-11-06T18:34:43.255+00:002014-11-06T18:34:43.255+00:00Of course it is easy to select the "radical &...Of course it is easy to select the "radical " option when you know that it won't happen, but I am optimistic that we can win another referendum in the long term. Calumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18298701198248993553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-90170719035068510922014-11-06T18:21:56.602+00:002014-11-06T18:21:56.602+00:00As exciting as the 51/49 split is, the question is...As exciting as the 51/49 split is, the question is a bit loaded. Asking respondents "knowing what you know now" is going to tilt the responses somewhat. Even if we are at a very narrow minority in real terms (i.e. 48-49) I think that's still really remarkable less than 2 months from the referendum.FitzyMannoreply@blogger.com