tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post9041048088056944253..comments2024-03-28T23:58:18.318+00:00Comments on SCOT goes POP!: Crowdfunding for forthcoming Scot Goes Pop pollingJames Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comBlogger95125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-85204718170487586712021-03-06T08:21:41.267+00:002021-03-06T08:21:41.267+00:00Hi. I’ll use your numbering to reply.
1. She shoul...Hi. I’ll use your numbering to reply.<br />1. She should not have offered to help, but to support, which is I think what she says she did. An offer to help would have been leapt upon by the Unionist MSM and BBC.<br />2. The mediation offer was I understand coupled with non disclosure agreement conditions. For me however there is a more fundamental point. Sexual harassment arises in part due to a huge power imbalance between the parties and in such circumstances mediation is not appropriate. Some form of conciliation process after the disciplinary process has been completed may be appropriate depending on circumstances. The unfair status of the procedure has been established beyond doubt and I think we are agreed on that. It is I understand being changed.<br />3. I am unable to cut and paste the article and I do not want to type it out at length. In any event I am e mailing Scottish Parliament to clarify the process for this matter to be brought to the attention of the two Inquiries so you will hopefully see it referred to in the findings. Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12022857876773930667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-69442317197838052562021-03-05T22:50:35.739+00:002021-03-05T22:50:35.739+00:00Stephen three points:
1. She could easily have sa...Stephen three points:<br /><br />1. She could easily have said in her statement that she made a general comment to help. She didn't she categorically said she did not offer to intervene. She lied.<br /><br />2. She should have intervened because the process was nonsense but she didn't. The process was nonsense because it was only ever created to get Salmond. She wasn't being asked to sweep the allegations under the carpet as she stated before the Committee. She was being asked to put the process before mediation to see if it was fair and lawful. She didn't want to do that because she knew that it was unfair and unlawful.<br /><br />3. I note you do not say what was in this mystery article you originally refered to of Jan 19 or what paper it was in.Independence for Scotlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10335330210460885789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-29162439579365671552021-03-05T17:48:49.016+00:002021-03-05T17:48:49.016+00:00Wrang thread. Realised it wis only IfS still in he...Wrang thread. Realised it wis only IfS still in hear talkin tae hisel.Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-53173566414158316832021-03-05T17:44:14.247+00:002021-03-05T17:44:14.247+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-5743350591756838362021-03-05T15:55:34.168+00:002021-03-05T15:55:34.168+00:00Independence for Scotland aka Cubby, serving Engla...Independence for Scotland aka Cubby, serving England since 2019.Jutemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11061671774494923407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-37150396778460035612021-03-05T13:38:05.509+00:002021-03-05T13:38:05.509+00:00We can agree to disagree. In relation to the meet...We can agree to disagree. In relation to the meeting on 29th March Hamilton and Pringle both made written statements of hearsay evidence. That is indisputable. They both confirm that in their statements. It is up to the Committee to decide on the credibility of their evidence and the weight to be attached to it. I view it in that respect as of very little value. Deciding not to accept hearsay evidence is not a reflection on the person making that hearsay statement. It is the credibility of the source of that evidence that is relevant. That brings us back to Aberdein and January 2019. On the separate issue of the meeting on 2nd April NS absolutely should not intervene in the process. I can easily envisage a general offer of support to someone who was a long term friend being misinterpreted. To castigate NS for doing the right thing is in my opinion wrong. I will await the findings of both Inquiries with interest. Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12022857876773930667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-88697265855491934772021-03-05T12:14:32.653+00:002021-03-05T12:14:32.653+00:00Another tactic the Scotgov used to delay the Commi...Another tactic the Scotgov used to delay the Committee was to flood it with papers that were irrelevant whilst keeping hidden the papers that were incriminating. This allowed them to say we have given the Committee thousands of pages of documents. They didn't say ALL the RELEVANT documents. These are the tactics of a government with a lot to hide. Not a government that values truth and transparency. Some SNP members think it doesn't matter because it is an SNP government. That is exactly what Britnats think about their governments in Westminster. Cover up is the order of the day in Westminster and Holyrood.Independence for Scotlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10335330210460885789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-61214541500933211532021-03-05T12:03:53.084+00:002021-03-05T12:03:53.084+00:00Smearer Skier (liar since 2014) - talking to yours...Smearer Skier (liar since 2014) - talking to yourself again. MPD kicking in again.Independence for Scotlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10335330210460885789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-42157944201407498292021-03-05T12:01:00.300+00:002021-03-05T12:01:00.300+00:00Stephen, I am not going on a wild goose chase thro...Stephen, I am not going on a wild goose chase through papers in Jan 19. You don't say the paper or the heading of the article or the author so no I have not looked at it. Why don't you just say what it says and give the above details.<br /><br />Witness statements are valid otherwise why have witnesses at a trial. Particularly a QC. So I don't think a judge would be happy you calling a QC's testimony next to worthless.<br /><br />Stephen, as I say above, Hamilton says he was there when Sturgeon said she would intervene. She then backtracked on her written statement saying she didn't promise to intervene with a load of waffle about wanting to let Salmond down. She got away with a lot of that stuff just like Murrell. She wouldn't in a proper courtroom. In a proper courtroom they wouldn't have Fabiani protecting them.<br /><br />Whether or not you think a particular bit of evidence up not worth much. The truth is there is a mountain of evidence that they were out to smear Salmond<br /><br />Stephen I give everyone a civilised response that doesn't insult me. Independence for Scotlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10335330210460885789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-54463082473615287702021-03-05T11:44:16.712+00:002021-03-05T11:44:16.712+00:00Keaton valid point. Personally, I have never seen ...Keaton valid point. Personally, I have never seen any 40k members going to ISP stuff. Presumably it is an idiot on twitter. However I know people who tell me that after they have left the SNP the SNP continue to treat them as if they are still a member.Independence for Scotlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10335330210460885789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-31908603114870118862021-03-05T11:41:37.701+00:002021-03-05T11:41:37.701+00:00Hi GWC.Hi GWC.Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-33216844590051322972021-03-05T11:38:41.214+00:002021-03-05T11:38:41.214+00:00Juteman - Ah I see you are still a mad psycho. Tre...Juteman - Ah I see you are still a mad psycho. Treatment will be available somewhere but you won't get it from your fellow looneys on WGDbtl.Independence for Scotlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10335330210460885789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-73643559514180857552021-03-05T11:35:11.292+00:002021-03-05T11:35:11.292+00:00Smearer Skier (liar since 2014) - I'll tell yo...Smearer Skier (liar since 2014) - I'll tell you what I am proposing - you stop lying and smearing. You are as disgusting a person as GWC.Independence for Scotlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10335330210460885789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-88862484064645071492021-03-05T11:29:37.715+00:002021-03-05T11:29:37.715+00:00Smearer Skier (liar since 2014) - I certainly don&...Smearer Skier (liar since 2014) - I certainly don't trust liars like you. You seem to be interested in bloggers accounts. So I take it you have asked to see other bloggers accounts - have you asked to see James Kelly's SGP accounts. No you haven't have you Smearer - you are full of shit. That comes from standing with Sturgeon in the gutter.<br /><br />If the articles say that Salmond said the Scotgov tried to delay the Judicial Review by sisting it then they are are wrong. They did delay it by ignoring their duty of candour by hiding documents from the Court and the Judge then having to introduce a Due Diligence to try and force the Scotgov to give up all the documents it was trying to hide.Independence for Scotlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10335330210460885789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-25152929004154627912021-03-05T11:25:16.417+00:002021-03-05T11:25:16.417+00:00'and say the people have spoken'
That'...<i>'and say the people have spoken'</i><br /><br />That's because they will have spoken and you agree with this; you have said Scots could get an outright indy mandate this way. Were you lying?<br /><br />What are you proposing, the losers storm Holyrood if Sturgeon is democratically re-elected by the people as FM?Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-73856816530259307662021-03-05T11:13:45.258+00:002021-03-05T11:13:45.258+00:00The Scottish government cynically did everything t...The Scottish government cynically did everything they could to delay and delay and delay the deliberations of the Inquiry. People who are innocent of wrongdoing do not lie and hide documents. <br /><br />They knew that if Sturgeon was found in, say, August last year of actions that required her to step down as FM a new FM may have to be appointed. If they delay until end of March then a new FM cannot be appointed and she can then win an election and say the people have spoken. Job done Salmond smeared and I'm still FM.<br /><br /> Right where did I put that Hate Crime bill says Sturgeon time to get these bloggers oh and Cherry as well. Independence for Scotlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10335330210460885789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-77418118848375782712021-03-05T11:11:41.334+00:002021-03-05T11:11:41.334+00:00She is going to go through the same process that a...She is going to go through the same process that any FM would have to if they left office, e.g. by resigning mid term both from the post of FM and as an MSP due to gross misconduct.<br /><br />She has no choice but to forgo both positions and hope that she's elected again through 2-3 different votes (constituency, largest party / ability to form government then parliament for FM). The people will decide that and if they do, any previous misconduct made known prior to the election is laid to rest; the people have judged her.<br /><br />This is why the committee and Hamilton reports will be out well before the election, so the people can judge. <br /><br />But even if she resigns tomorrow, all is forgiven in May if that's what the electorate want. Ministers are expected to step down for breaches of the code. Well, she can't avoid that even if found innocent. Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-89084147203592836012021-03-05T11:04:07.307+00:002021-03-05T11:04:07.307+00:00Smearer Skier( liar since 2014) - well you lied ab...Smearer Skier( liar since 2014) - well you lied about having to leave Scotland to get work didn't you? Lying again are you ? <br /><br />The only thing exploding is you because you don't like somebody calling you out on your lies. You lie like a Britnat Smearer. This is a blog for independence not lying Britnats.Independence for Scotlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10335330210460885789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-73326578828948867462021-03-05T11:03:14.222+00:002021-03-05T11:03:14.222+00:00A new FM is elected at the start of each term. So ...A new FM is elected at the start of each term. So sturgeon's term as FM will end soon and she'll need to put herself forward for election first as an MSP, and then potentially as FM. <br /><br />Her current term as FM is coming to an end. It will be over in a matter of weeks. <br /><br />Maybe she will be FM again, but she has no choice. She must step down as stand for re-election. Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-5422796228591967632021-03-05T10:59:40.040+00:002021-03-05T10:59:40.040+00:00Salmond could be FM in May. If he had the backing ...Salmond could be FM in May. If he had the backing of Scots.Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-74411474827711053372021-03-05T10:59:11.340+00:002021-03-05T10:59:11.340+00:00As a MSP yes, not as First Minister, As a MSP yes, not as First Minister, Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06895447888993922494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-9625640328164251312021-03-05T10:57:48.093+00:002021-03-05T10:57:48.093+00:00Smearer Skier (liar since 2014) - demonstrating hi...Smearer Skier (liar since 2014) - demonstrating his smearing once again. Do they really appoint people like you to a post in a Scottish uni. What uni is it you say you do your bashing at again? Oh that's right you won't say will you. Is it the one that removed Salmonds stone from public display? Are you practicising your rock bashing on it?Independence for Scotlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10335330210460885789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-81640659658472341802021-03-05T10:57:20.107+00:002021-03-05T10:57:20.107+00:00Sounds fair enough. Of course if a majority of MS...Sounds fair enough. Of course if a majority of MSPs no longer feel confident with the First Minister they are free to remove her from the position, after all as you say they are the ones that decide who becomes FM.<br /> Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06895447888993922494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-56208089847647536862021-03-05T10:54:27.046+00:002021-03-05T10:54:27.046+00:00Sturgeon is resigning in a matter of weeks. Sturgeon is resigning in a matter of weeks. Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-52773067627177494902021-03-05T10:51:30.829+00:002021-03-05T10:51:30.829+00:00It is truly sad to see independence supporters lyi...It is truly sad to see independence supporters lying like Britnats to try and keep intact their delusions about Nicola Sturgeon. Eg Dr Jim on WGD saying that Salmond said Scotland couldn't be independent right now. Now of course he never said that. Sarah Smith of the BBC and other Britnats said that. So we have independence supporters repeating Britnat media attacks on Salmond using the same lies. <br /><br />This is Sturgeons yes movement. A leader of the independence cause should not be creating this division. Of course people like DrJim will say it is all Salmonds fault. Aye he should have just shut up and gone to prison - DrJim what an idiot.Independence for Scotlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10335330210460885789noreply@blogger.com