tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post8919662327246443716..comments2024-03-28T16:57:50.266+00:00Comments on SCOT goes POP!: Corbyn might be deposed before 2020, but he might not beJames Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-5693845524959280082015-09-20T23:08:03.953+01:002015-09-20T23:08:03.953+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.jimmywantabahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00900569850111028649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-31427746290671537332015-09-20T23:07:38.717+01:002015-09-20T23:07:38.717+01:00I'm a Good BoyI'm a Good BoyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-6825196839077771932015-09-18T12:23:01.798+01:002015-09-18T12:23:01.798+01:00James can we get some analysis on the East Ayrshir...James can we get some analysis on the East Ayrshire council by election please? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-33136084744082315332015-09-18T08:45:43.981+01:002015-09-18T08:45:43.981+01:00Me too, here here indeed.Me too, here here indeed.Dundee Working Classnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-20589966579560559652015-09-18T08:12:39.236+01:002015-09-18T08:12:39.236+01:00I was hoping for a left wing revival in England le...I was hoping for a left wing revival in England led by Corbyn; kept me supporting the union. Thanks for your honest opinion about that being doomed to failure. I'm backing independence now as a result and shall vote SNP-SNP next May.Edinburgh Working Classnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-14220446040398057732015-09-17T22:19:52.596+01:002015-09-17T22:19:52.596+01:00Douglas you seem to be a Utopian. Since wheh did p...Douglas you seem to be a Utopian. Since wheh did people not want power for their own sake? Are you some sort of Trotskyisk doing it for the people and not bothering about an ice pick in the heid?Glasgow Working Classnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-1471197209698439682015-09-17T22:08:57.269+01:002015-09-17T22:08:57.269+01:00Denise do not be silly by agreeing with Chuck abov...Denise do not be silly by agreeing with Chuck above. Corbyn has his agenda which will fail. He is an internationalist not a Nat si. But gjve him some credit for getting elected. He managed to con some like the Nat sis have done.Glasgow Working Classnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-53171097445883327482015-09-17T21:52:15.305+01:002015-09-17T21:52:15.305+01:00Charles exactly what I was thinking. Scotland is ...Charles exactly what I was thinking. Scotland is on the road to independence, no sign of the 45% changing their minds, what will we do?<br />Give devo-max? No way!<br /><br />I know the Jocks are all red-flag waving socialists, enter RedJez, Scots back in their box, job doneDenisenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-6014147900382162302015-09-17T21:32:49.836+01:002015-09-17T21:32:49.836+01:00Personally,I think the left in England is going th...Personally,I think the left in England is going through a spasm. There are those who think that gaining power <i>for it's own sake</i> is what labour should do. The Fabians and fellow travellers seem to think that adopting neo-liberalism with a kindly face is a way to political power. It may be. It ay be that that moves the consensus slowly away from the right wing agenda, and that, eventually, around and about 2030 we will have moved so incrementally towards a 'better society" <i>hush, say it quietly</i> that we might conider a commission to determine the terms of reference of a commission to discuss tax avoidance and / or evasion. It may, with the Fabians enormous enthusiasm for speed in all decisions, report around 2050.<br /><br />At which point.<br /><br />We need a revolution in thought, not a scalar approach to change.<br /><br />Scots generally seem more aware of that at the moment. For some, scratch me reason, I think that that will widen in the future.<br /><br />The 'professional' class of politicians, spit, are unlikely to survive an engaged electorate. By 'professional' I mean people wedded to their own power, expenses and influence.<br /><br />That is my hope, not just for Scotland but for the whole planet.<br /><br />Viva the Internet! douglas clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11422060678908705962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-15385507286423387712015-09-17T21:31:18.965+01:002015-09-17T21:31:18.965+01:00It is with great interest I watched,read and liste...It is with great interest I watched,read and listened to the election of Jeremy Corbyn,as the new leader of the Labour Party(although I still think Labour is just a facet of the establishment part) I think he has been put in by design,with the hope of curtailing the SNP in Scotland sort of making the yearning for independence go away hoping that those that were disaffected Labour folk in Scotland return to the Labour fold,probably one or two might,but not enough to make a difference.After next years Scottish elections the "tea leaves" will be read and if Labour make a comeback Jeremy will stay for a year or so then be ousted for a more "centrist" folk including the top job.If Jeremy doesn't cause an upswing for Labour in Scotland then he'll be out by next September,and the independence ball will just keep on running and picking up more disaffected voters.Charles O'Brien.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10778040983298966024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-54020644025423525602015-09-17T18:49:12.200+01:002015-09-17T18:49:12.200+01:00I just meant he can expect treatment as bad as or ...I just meant he can expect treatment as bad as or worse than the SNP.<br /><br />We'd probably already be independent if we were not up against that same establishment.Scottish_Skiernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-20470098006991772822015-09-17T18:37:47.606+01:002015-09-17T18:37:47.606+01:00UK Yougov poll.
Scottish subsample showing level...UK Yougov poll.<br /> <br />Scottish subsample showing level of optimism about a Left wing revival in England.<br /> <br /><i>If Jeremy Corbyn remains leader of the Labour party, how likely or unlikely do you think it is that they will win the next general election?<br />59% Unlikely<br />21% Likely</i><br /><br />UK Figures:<br />61% unlikely<br />17% LikelyScottish_Skiernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-23860882517795494282015-09-17T18:10:48.212+01:002015-09-17T18:10:48.212+01:00Last I checked, it was voters who decide elections...Last I checked, it was voters who decide elections, not anyone else. <br /><br />I am familiar with this kind of "the establishment won't let Corbyn win" gibberish, though. They won't let us have independence either, so are we wasting our time campaigning for that as well?Brisknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-38628519378314874702015-09-17T17:46:37.275+01:002015-09-17T17:46:37.275+01:00If there was ever a leaking lifeboat, surely the L...If there was ever a leaking lifeboat, surely the Lib Dumbs are it. But who knows? It may be my dislike of Farron that clouds my opinion. He has always struck me as the kind of guy who always wants a loan of a tenner till pay-day.gavinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-24814055364521556752015-09-17T14:42:08.834+01:002015-09-17T14:42:08.834+01:00Do you think the City of London Corporation (with ...Do you think the City of London Corporation (with their wee guy who sits in the HoC making sure its interests are protected) would stand for Corbyn as PM?Scottish_Skiernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-10036675457299667362015-09-17T14:40:06.472+01:002015-09-17T14:40:06.472+01:00In addition to the rumours of defections from Labo...In addition to the rumours of defections from Labour to the Tories (or maybe just back as a few Tories defect to Labour under Tony), as you might expect, Lib Dems are hopeful too.<br /><br />http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13766737.Farron_hints_at_possible_defections_to_Lib_Dems_following_Corbyn_victory/Scottish_Skiernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-3894780735578921692015-09-17T14:01:48.852+01:002015-09-17T14:01:48.852+01:00There's a lot of defeatism when it comes to Co...There's a lot of defeatism when it comes to Corbyn: this idea that you shouldn't get behind him because he's not going to win anyway. It's fairly bizarre given he came from being a rank outsider to winning the leadership contest in the first place.<br /><br />We also have to remember that we're still in a bit of a honeymoon period for the government. Corbyn's stance will start to make more of an impact when the government is making unpopular decisions and people are prone to backing the opposition.Brisknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-72177686650521575352015-09-17T13:44:51.388+01:002015-09-17T13:44:51.388+01:00If he is deposed in a palace (of Westminster) coup...If he is deposed in a palace (of Westminster) coup by neoliberal Blairites, It will be another nail in the coffin of the UK. With TINA for laissez faire capitalism in the London driving seat I imagine more pewople will cross the water to sign up for Scottish Independencetamdunlop68https://www.blogger.com/profile/10560526768591869797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-46850880174797799872015-09-17T13:25:24.997+01:002015-09-17T13:25:24.997+01:00James,your analysis seems spot on to me. Given the...James,your analysis seems spot on to me. Given the extreme animosity towards Corbyne down south, from most pundits and media(the BBC is hardly even bothering to hide its dislike), I find it difficult to see Corbyne as Leader entering an election. If he is, it will be a truncated Party he leads. The bulk of Labour at Westminster are well to the right of the Party in the country. They may form a new centrist Party----I suspect funding will be available.gavinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-53584779818128541112015-09-17T10:31:02.398+01:002015-09-17T10:31:02.398+01:00It's easy. Just pick up any UK newspaper. &quo...It's easy. Just pick up any UK newspaper. "Left Wingers" are BAD. "Right wingers" are GOOD. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15856929787041515440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-31150829282000155512015-09-17T10:24:22.749+01:002015-09-17T10:24:22.749+01:00As a non-UK-er, I'm often stumped as to what w...As a non-UK-er, I'm often stumped as to what wing various MPs belong to (especially since on this, Wikipedia isn't any help at all). Is there a list of some sorts to be found anywhere? https://www.blogger.com/profile/07624761584657417273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-33411606453582744352015-09-17T09:56:16.137+01:002015-09-17T09:56:16.137+01:00And anyway Alan Johnson is a man who REALLY doesn&...And anyway Alan Johnson is a man who REALLY doesn't want to be Leader of the Opposition or PM having clearly said so on several occasions. Unless 'insiders' know he is lying or something.Johnnynoreply@blogger.com