tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post8688161375402430259..comments2024-03-29T07:48:22.768+00:00Comments on SCOT goes POP!: Abandoning the SNP for a new pro-indy party would be a terrible idea - and here's whyJames Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comBlogger86125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-24656454044413117452019-03-08T09:23:19.949+00:002019-03-08T09:23:19.949+00:00Cordelia and its bizarre lusts, everyone. Cordelia and its bizarre lusts, everyone. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-26364030204067558562019-03-08T08:36:32.416+00:002019-03-08T08:36:32.416+00:00Let's give this one another run out, just for ...Let's give this one another run out, just for Cordelia as it anticipates "marital law": https://g.co/kgs/HKNb7dAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-76325280304420716082019-03-08T08:28:33.627+00:002019-03-08T08:28:33.627+00:00Cordelia there, screaming its impotent rage again....Cordelia there, screaming its impotent rage again.<br />How dare we insult its beloved Yaxley-Lennon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-86294366500148465742019-03-08T07:05:57.965+00:002019-03-08T07:05:57.965+00:002 great films from the ups. Chesty Morgan and Cloc...2 great films from the ups. Chesty Morgan and Clockwork Banana.John Wayne - Mannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-50200527552400768752019-03-07T19:39:02.368+00:002019-03-07T19:39:02.368+00:00Good for you and I will rightly criticize the Scot...Good for you and I will rightly criticize the Scottish Government for ruling out any second ref unless backed by a section 30 [as stated by the FM] order, therefore taking away peoples vote. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-48759456361313658542019-03-07T19:19:06.541+00:002019-03-07T19:19:06.541+00:00Actually, I support not telling the anti-democrati...Actually, I support not telling the anti-democratic English government what the Scottish government's plan is.<br /><br />I believe any iref should ideally be announced with just the shortest possible notice.<br /><br />I also think it extremely wise to pursue a Section 30 relentlessly while planning do go ahead without one if needed. I also think it vital that it be stated an iref won't go ahead without a Section 30 until all preparations are in place to go ahead without one.<br /><br />Finally, the best time for one is post-brexit, ideally in a transition. Now isn't the right time. Only if it was a Section 30 one would it make some sense to start preparing because our opponent would be doing that.<br /><br />In the meantime, I will rightly state, as per the BBC, that England is trying the end democracy by attempting to overturn the result of the 2016 election. <br /><br />I just get a feeling that will chime with voters. After all, people don't like having their vote removed from them, which is what the English government is saying it will do.Scottish skiernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-59191691927816579652019-03-07T17:15:26.260+00:002019-03-07T17:15:26.260+00:00It would be upto the SC not UK Goverment to decide...It would be upto the SC not UK Goverment to decide if its legal. Most opinion seem to think that they would find it legal.<br /><br />But it is the SNP who are stopping us finding out but ruling out a non section 30 ref. <br /><br />"I'm afraid there's no way out of this Fascist hole the UK government is creating for itself. Scots thought they lived in a democracy. England is saying 'No, no, no'."<br /><br />But there is, just say no, as the Scot Gov will not do anything about it, ergo Scotland stays in UK. Sorry but if you support the SNP policy of ONLY having a section 30 ref then you support the UK Government deciding when and if there is a referendum.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-24865957868904972482019-03-07T16:53:57.312+00:002019-03-07T16:53:57.312+00:00Are you saying a referendum held by the Scottish g...Are you saying a referendum held by the Scottish government without a Section 30 would be deemed legal and binding by the Westminster government? Or would they deem it illegal and therefore invalid as per my post? <br /><br />I'm afraid there's no way out of this Fascist hole the UK government is creating for itself. Scots thought they lived in a democracy. England is saying 'No, no, no'.scottish skiernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-9511777916641539962019-03-07T16:45:56.255+00:002019-03-07T16:45:56.255+00:00I agree with the article about splitting the vote ...I agree with the article about splitting the vote - very dangerous and there is another indy party if we want to go Green. However, I am very disappointed with the latest information coming from Nicola (who I do like) that if there is a 'no' from the Westminster government that basically that's us had it for now. The other Anoymous contributor is correct in that this seems to be a way out for the SNP so that they can blame the Conservatives for denying us the right. So many of us who want independence are already champing at the bit for the chance to get out of the UK and to find at the closing hour that like sheep we will fall into the fold if told to is disappointing at best and outrageous at worst. One is reminded of the Grand Old Duke of York. If the SNP do acquiesce to this so easily one has to ask 'What is the point in voting for them?' I hate to say that, but its true. There are other issues I find important but give my vote to SNP for independence, but if they don't go for it when we are in such an unusual political setting then perhaps I should return to voting for other parties until they decide to go for it without hesitation. Its time for them to get some bottle and go for it or at least stop pretending to us that they are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-87203601382206625252019-03-07T16:06:16.236+00:002019-03-07T16:06:16.236+00:00Again an non section 30 ref WOULD NOT BE ILLEGAL. ...Again an non section 30 ref WOULD NOT BE ILLEGAL. They could hold one tomorrow if they wanted. It is the SNP who are saying they don't want to hold one (see today FMQ for clarification)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-20738909923496826402019-03-07T15:57:53.870+00:002019-03-07T15:57:53.870+00:00In English?In English?Imelda Grosscupnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-9566845507159153272019-03-07T15:48:50.369+00:002019-03-07T15:48:50.369+00:00https://archive.fo/S71qp
English Government to Ov...https://archive.fo/S71qp<br /><br /><b>English Government to Overrule 2016 Scottish Election Result, Handing Victory to Unionists Parties, Confirms Foreign Secretary</b><br /><br /><i>The Foreign Secretary used a visit to Glasgow to make clear the Prime Minister would overturn the Scottish election result, making core SNP policies illegal, and so handing victory to the losing unionists.<br /><br />Asked what Mrs May’s response would be if the First Minister tried to carry out manifesto policy commitments, Mr Hunt said: “The answer from the English government would of course would be no.”</i><br /><br />#Fascistscumscottish skiernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-73238221790223941922019-03-07T14:28:14.714+00:002019-03-07T14:28:14.714+00:00Well, aside from the Nazi-type threats from Englan...Well, aside from the Nazi-type threats from England that it will not recognise such a referendum, and will instead take the Spanish jackboot type approach (refusing a Section 30 is...and declaring any iref as illegal would be...an attempt at imposition of direct English rule)...<br /><br />...I imagine the ScotGov is choosing not to go ahead right now because, well, the moment the UK leaves the EU is actually the best time. Then the EU/EEA can offer Scotland straightforward membership. The UK is no longer a member, so the EU/EEA club can openly negotiate with Scotland. <br /><br />If there's a transition period, then Scotland could even stay in the single market throughout. <br /><br />Obviously, an advisory referendum (which would carry the same democratic weight as the EU one), could be organised in a very short space of time. A few months would be sufficient (quite different to a Section 30 one). That, and the fact you are hardly going to announce the date to your 'enemy' ages in advance (the EU 27 have probably told Scotland to sit tight), might explain the current circumstances.Scottish skiernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-38480760579148048242019-03-07T13:15:37.040+00:002019-03-07T13:15:37.040+00:00Hey Bill have you been checking out who's got ...Hey Bill have you been checking out who's got the biggest beau again, stop it now.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11706212487944203350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-26287431065402020092019-03-07T13:00:48.072+00:002019-03-07T13:00:48.072+00:00They took control of the Labour party,...............They took control of the Labour party,............<br /><br /> the Labour party is on the verge of a meltdown that could keep it out of power for who knows how long. That being said nothing's predictable these daysAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11706212487944203350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-29323904709830478572019-03-07T12:53:00.467+00:002019-03-07T12:53:00.467+00:00Thats a different conversation. But still does no...Thats a different conversation. But still does not change the fact that the Scot Gov could hold an referendum tomorrow if it wishes , but is not choosing to do so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-91942780110540549882019-03-07T12:47:03.698+00:002019-03-07T12:47:03.698+00:00They have the power to legally compel England to r...They have the power to legally compel England to recognise the result, making independence smooth?* <br /><br />Wow, this has never, ever been the case in the history of the world. This would be the first time a country has ever had the power to compel another in this way. <br /><br />We truly do have a powerful devolved parliament.<br /><br />---<br /><br />*This is what a Section 30 is; it is England passing a bill to say it will legally recognise the an iref result. It isn't permission as such, but agreement to recognise. <br /><br />What the English government is currently doing is saying it would not recognise the free democratic will of the people of Scotland, and would instead potentially try to overule any iref result, arguing to the world / courts that it owned Scotland and the latter had no right to independence. That is what 'no Section 30' means; if you vote, we will try to crush it Franco style.Scottish skiernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-29540939601688651632019-03-07T12:31:14.218+00:002019-03-07T12:31:14.218+00:00Hopefully the irony is not lost on everyone, but t...Hopefully the irony is not lost on everyone, but the next time you poi t things out, don't make the as you put it schoolboy error of assuming Green votes will transfer to the SNP. Particularly given Labour are economically to the left of the SNP, and the Lib Dems more socially liberal. And if independence is your primary concern the SNP is your natural home.<br /><br />Not standing on the list is not a feasible strategy for the SNP for many reasons not least of which is they would be perceived to have acted in bad faith, never a good look for a political party. But particularly given a huge amount of trust in their foresight and strategic analysis would be required to get independence over the line.<br /><br />A mature and collaborative discussion that doesn't have parochialism at its heart is needed for an effective pro independence voting on the list strategy.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11706212487944203350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-50742803026342332612019-03-07T12:02:39.584+00:002019-03-07T12:02:39.584+00:00No I am saying the Scot Gov have the powers to hol...No I am saying the Scot Gov have the powers to hold a referendum but are choosing not to use them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-26227854707666533652019-03-07T11:41:47.646+00:002019-03-07T11:41:47.646+00:00I see Brexit voters are now intentionally deprivin...I see Brexit voters are now intentionally depriving the sick, including epilepsy sufferers, of their medicine.<br /><br />https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-47471813<br /><br /><i>A top neurologist has warned patients are being "left in the dark" about access to medicines after Brexit.<br /><br />Prof John Paul Leach says patients are already reporting shortages in some vital epilepsy drugs.<br /><br />Specialists in palliative care also say they have concerns about the impact of Brexit.</i>scottish skiernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-86291426623067676392019-03-07T11:37:44.148+00:002019-03-07T11:37:44.148+00:00I see the Na sis do not want to manage severe disa...I see the Na sis do not want to manage severe disablement allowance. They are leaving it to Westminster.<br />I note skier your Irish pals are sending jiffy bags to the mainland. Up to their old tricks again targeting the working class. GWCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-71847597826785573642019-03-07T11:36:15.521+00:002019-03-07T11:36:15.521+00:00I seem to recall an intial request was made for a ...I seem to recall an intial request was made for a Section 30 in 2017. The answer was no.<br /><br />Are you saying a Section 30 (core policy) will be granted automatically now and the British are just lying bastards that can't be trusted to tell the truth?scottish skiernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-40696932503412995322019-03-07T11:27:43.980+00:002019-03-07T11:27:43.980+00:00it is illegal for you to implement your core polic...it is illegal for you to implement your core policies<br /><br />Nope the SNP can intact its core policy any time it likes. They are choosing not to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-91635979826064046042019-03-07T10:53:46.874+00:002019-03-07T10:53:46.874+00:00So Scots are no longer living in a democracy, but ...So Scots <i>are</i> no longer living in a democracy, but an English fascist state. <br /><br />Elections/referendums are effectively cancelled. If the SNP..Greens win an election (2016), the English government simply overrules the democratic result and hands victory to the unionists by saying 'No, no, no. Now is not the time - it is illegal for you to implement your core policies'.<br /><br />https://twitter.com/BBCandrewkerr/status/1103605447586705408<br /><br /><i>BBC Andrew Kerr<br />@BBCandrewkerr<br />.@Jeremy_Hunt says on a visit to Glasgow University that if @NicolaSturgeon asked for 2nd independence referendum the “answer, of course, would be no.” Says there shouldn’t be another divisive referendum and the SNP should focus on health and education.</i><br /><br />Fascist scum.Scottish skiernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-48915467038320219882019-03-07T06:57:06.260+00:002019-03-07T06:57:06.260+00:00Cordelia out with the bufallis and the doctors sin...Cordelia out with the bufallis and the doctors sin pretending to be upper class. Pile of crap. Everyone knows they're nothing special. Like that fat bag in the big dresses likebDemis Russia's and the wired hair. Pretniciiys twats.Sad veterannoreply@blogger.com