tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post7554809253182832830..comments2024-03-28T15:24:36.462+00:00Comments on SCOT goes POP!: Kezia's fairy-tale on nuclear disarmamentJames Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-55886304588934521362015-08-23T10:18:05.247+01:002015-08-23T10:18:05.247+01:00Only 4 Trident boats, with only one on patrol at a...Only 4 Trident boats, with only one on patrol at any time. Not all the tubes are loaded.<br />Trident Knowledge Fail guys.The Engineerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01618651082115015745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-19158466354152524102015-08-21T09:02:34.258+01:002015-08-21T09:02:34.258+01:00James the Concorde analogy is very weak as it is t...James the Concorde analogy is very weak as it is that technology that goes in to fighter aircraft. It hasn't gone away at all and has in fact improved.<br />The thing is that even I could jerry rig a simple nuke given the right material and I'm just a physics grad.<br /><br />I don't think that we can disarm down to zero but we should be able to get out down to about 10 for each block.<br />What we really need is good control of the material to make sure that small groups can't have it.McCafferyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01873464074643303862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-63355059398011798222015-08-20T07:01:44.451+01:002015-08-20T07:01:44.451+01:00There are 5 Trident submarines. Each submarine has...There are 5 Trident submarines. Each submarine has 16 silos. Each missile has 3 independently targetable warheads, so 48 per sub times 5 equals 240. It makes no logistical sense to believe that there are no spares.Jim Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05510331006466209204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-45226841845235013942015-08-19T19:01:35.943+01:002015-08-19T19:01:35.943+01:00It was loss making and unsafe.
And I suppose nuke...It was loss making and unsafe.<br /><br />And I suppose nukes are too! But they are profitable in other ways. Britain and France carry absolutely massive influence on the international stage, in part, because of our nuclear weapons. Tiny Britain can veto a UN resolution, even if backed by every other nation on earth.<br /><br />Would we hold such sway if we had chosen not to go down the nuclear path? Probably not. <br /><br />With power comes influence and with influence comes money. We can rig international rules on trade to our favour. I know that's a wee bit immoral - but it's a rough old world out there and we need to secure our place in it.<br /><br />Aldohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03385445471036440872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-41914216942895881412015-08-19T18:10:38.660+01:002015-08-19T18:10:38.660+01:00The technology for Concorde exists, but there aren...The technology for Concorde exists, but there aren't any Concordes anymore. A hopeful precedent.James Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-68581150928042928882015-08-19T18:06:41.213+01:002015-08-19T18:06:41.213+01:00The technology exists. It can't be uninvented....The technology exists. It can't be uninvented. Even if you got every nation on earth to agree to scrap nuclear weapons you can be pretty sure Kim Jong Wrong-un would keep one or two in a vault somewhere, along with Putin. You can't trust these guys. That some people think they can be trusted shows just how naive and childlike western civilisation has become - in contrast to the cynical, unreformed gangster hardmen who would gladly tear it down in a heartbeat, given the opportunity.<br /><br />And even if every country got rid of every last nuke on the planet, the knowledge of how to construct one is now scattered around the planet - stored in human brains, books and computers. A working nuke will be months away at most for the industrialised nations - and, should a large scale war break out, somebody somewhere is going to give into temptation.<br /><br />We are where we are. We can't change it.<br /><br />My big nightmare growing up was zombies. With SNP mania, it has come to fruition.Aldohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03385445471036440872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-42652424409872534932015-08-18T22:12:55.099+01:002015-08-18T22:12:55.099+01:00This is what they offer. A debate, within the Scot...This is what they offer. A debate, within the Scottish Labour Branch, about the UK's nuclear detterrent, which is on my doorstep.<br /><br />A debate?<br /><br />GITF.<br /><br />I had childhood nightmares about being incinerated in a nuclear war. I feel the same insane are on the levers.<br /><br />I am not convinced by any arguement that says, the longer we have them, the less likely we are to use them.<br /><br /> In fact, just the opposite. There are, as we go on, inevitably, future insane politicians that would not hesitate. I am perhaps astonished that neither Afghanistan nor Iraqi were made into nuclear parking lots. The favourite expression of the lunatic right in the USA.<br /><br />But who is there to stop them?<br /><br />Tell me.douglas clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11422060678908705962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-5133367060586055022015-08-18T20:16:53.701+01:002015-08-18T20:16:53.701+01:00Labour going wobbly on nuclear weapons as a result...Labour going wobbly on nuclear weapons as a result of the rise of the far left - who are completely opposed to their own country having them (whilst presumably not too bothered about Mother Russia having a few thousand stashed away).<br /><br />It's now clear that the right in Britain are the only people who can be trusted with national defence and security and - unless the lib dems emerge as the new new labour, proclaiming their reluctant love of the bomb on the way - then it looks as if the right's monopoly on sanity will continue for quite some time.Aldohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03385445471036440872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-58359476629947004762015-08-18T17:41:20.761+01:002015-08-18T17:41:20.761+01:00Depends on how dirty it is.Depends on how dirty it is.McCafferyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01873464074643303862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-25594719555286045492015-08-18T16:05:34.760+01:002015-08-18T16:05:34.760+01:00I don't think the ability to make holes contam...I don't think the ability to make holes contaminated by radiation is actually that useful.Frann Leachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794415830004140025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-19317956067830209502015-08-18T12:51:58.924+01:002015-08-18T12:51:58.924+01:00Kez believes her own lies like at least half the l...Kez believes her own lies like at least half the labour lot. It's disgraceful that they also think the electorate should also believe their lies to keep them living very comfortable and expenses driven lives, while many are destitute in this rich ukok. Labour disgust me more as each day passes, unfortunately, their followers will continue to support them even though they have done very little for the voters all these years. <br /><br />Conlabour, no thanks. hettyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14336425954068503728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-57521192403851520542015-08-18T12:39:24.033+01:002015-08-18T12:39:24.033+01:00Actually nuclear bombs could be used to make tunne...Actually nuclear bombs could be used to make tunnels, channels and massive holes. They might even be useful in accelerating space craft to near lightspeed.McCafferyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01873464074643303862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-6120705715794835532015-08-17T22:59:36.311+01:002015-08-17T22:59:36.311+01:00Actual facts and Kezia does not compute and never ...Actual facts and Kezia does not compute and never has done even before she was elected as an MSP, just read her past blogs and the amount of cherry picked data they contained as SNP Baaadd is what drives her.<br /><br />She lied in the referendum and still sticks to the lies she told then, no integrity whatsoever.cynicalHighlanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06034325908473006163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-46995248731844363602015-08-17T22:20:32.729+01:002015-08-17T22:20:32.729+01:00Look if you believe having weapons that can destro...Look if you believe having weapons that can destroy mankind are legitimised by multilateralism. Then fine.<br /><br />However they are immoral if you believe that life is precious. Some things are just wrong! Like murder. It's like a murderer protesting innocence because he killed another man with a knife. I don't carry a knife but there are countless neds who do. Should all people carry knives because a minority of others do? Until the minority give up knives do the majority just sit on their hands and sigh.<br /><br />This multilateral disarmament is just a an excuse for doing nothing in your own backyard. If one less country has nuclear weapons it will make the world safer. If another country gets nuclear weapons it will make it less safe. That's what we call the arms race.<br /><br />The difference is knives have a purpose in the right hands. Nuclear weapons can only do one thing and that's destroy mankind.<br /><br />Scotland getting rid of weapons is not small minded or daft. It's making a statement that we want no part in the arms race.<br />November13https://www.blogger.com/profile/03249463580152897462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-66636216584570228812015-08-17T21:53:40.468+01:002015-08-17T21:53:40.468+01:00Totally disagree. Multilateralism is an utter sha...Totally disagree. Multilateralism is an utter sham. If Labour believe in multilateral disarmament, when did the last Labour government even propose sitting down with France and China (countries with comparable arsenals) to negotiate mutual reductions, let alone take part in such negotiations?<br /><br />Scratch the surface of "multilateral disarmers", and at best what they really mean is that they don't propose any increase on our supposedly "minimum" deterrent.James Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-38621681991399136052015-08-17T21:37:08.473+01:002015-08-17T21:37:08.473+01:00As an aside, I find the kind of rhetoric that acco...As an aside, I find the kind of rhetoric that accompanies the nuclear debate self-defeating. There's a certain side of the anti-Trident campaign that seems to find it impossible to acknowledge that someone can be pro-disarmament but think we should keep Trident until a multilateral deal can be agreed. <br /><br />I completely understand if people don't agree with that argument. I'm not even saying I agree with it. But we need to stop acting as if anyone who has a different opinion on how we get to disarmament is pro-nuclear weapons. It's a completely legitimate perspective to think you lose leverage by voluntarily disarming when other states are still pursuing nuclear programmes and I'm genuinely sick of people trying to shout anyone with a different view down instead of engaging with the issue openly like adults.<br /><br />A bit more dispassionate "debate" is actually what's needed on this subject instead of populist rhetoric.Neil Pottingernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-11270130935245590862015-08-17T20:22:54.960+01:002015-08-17T20:22:54.960+01:00Exactly she has no personal feelings on any politi...Exactly she has no personal feelings on any political subject. She will agree with the machine end of. If the machine has a new controller, she is reprogrammed by the machine operator. <br /><br />This is ethereal vacuous truth about modern mainstream British politics. That's why when she try s to do off message thinking. It comes out as illogical babble.<br /><br />Example:" I want the House Of Lords in Glasgow because Glasgow was yes city,Scotland voted no and Glasgow should have the second chamber." Yep she really said that folks.November13https://www.blogger.com/profile/03249463580152897462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-83331941996120425932015-08-17T20:14:29.059+01:002015-08-17T20:14:29.059+01:00Dugdale has highlighted that all British Labour in...Dugdale has highlighted that all British Labour in Scotland can do is "Have a debate".<br />The real decisions are taken by head office in London and rarely have anything to do with what is good for Scotland.bringitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10712089398887269381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-38922907009703672352015-08-17T20:10:54.264+01:002015-08-17T20:10:54.264+01:00Exactly she has no personal feelings on any politi...Exactly she has no personal feelings on any political subject. She will agree with the machine end of. If the machine has a new controller, she is reprogrammed by the machine operator. <br /><br />This is ethereal vacuous truth about modern mainstream British politics. That's why when she try s to do off message thinking. It comes out as illogical babble.<br /><br />Example:" I want the House Of Lords in Glasgow because Glasgow was yes city,Scotland voted no and Glasgow should have the second chamber." Yep she really said that folks.November13https://www.blogger.com/profile/03249463580152897462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-55079737662556462882015-08-17T17:31:15.100+01:002015-08-17T17:31:15.100+01:00If indeed only 5000 or so votes were cast for Dipi...If indeed only 5000 or so votes were cast for Dipity Dug, is it not a bit strange that the UK membership is supposedly 3 times what it was? You would reasonably expect a uniform increase in numbers to at least wash over Scotland. Yet they are not crowing about SLAB membership, and the number of voters "enthused to join" cant be that enthused as they didny vote for Kezia or Ken.<br /><br />There's something dodgy about the numbers..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-51464734749272615332015-08-17T16:44:26.694+01:002015-08-17T16:44:26.694+01:00Dugdale is a political mess. She will say anything...Dugdale is a political mess. She will say anything, nearly always contradicting herself, if there is a chance of being heard. Desperate desperate desperate.Dan Huilnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-33872059480516919952015-08-17T15:05:57.849+01:002015-08-17T15:05:57.849+01:00Yet another illustration of Kezia's very relax...Yet another illustration of Kezia's very relaxed aquaintance with the truth.handymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07907081493292209327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-5104465812800864622015-08-17T15:05:05.291+01:002015-08-17T15:05:05.291+01:00Yet another illustration of Kezia's very relax...Yet another illustration of Kezia's very relaxed aquaintance with the truth.handymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07907081493292209327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-17874825928429417042015-08-17T13:52:55.273+01:002015-08-17T13:52:55.273+01:00Not for a couple of decades now, they were all sup...Not for a couple of decades now, they were all superseded by newer conventional tech.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-47922676973260994692015-08-17T13:30:33.343+01:002015-08-17T13:30:33.343+01:00worth noting that RAF bases (e.g. Machrihanish) al...worth noting that RAF bases (e.g. Machrihanish) always had senior US Air Force staff present to sign off on WE177 etc. i.e. not independent. See wikipedia articles (and cited references) for "Nuclear weapons and the United Kingdom", "WE.177".<br /><br />WE.177 were dismantled in the 90's.callumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02134338549660867360noreply@blogger.com