tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post6152046752609984283..comments2024-03-29T07:15:16.690+00:00Comments on SCOT goes POP!: The dark legacy of the Tory Jockophobia campaign : Panelbase poll finds disturbing levels of anti-Scottish sentiment in EnglandJames Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-46778673796000637892015-10-06T13:24:44.475+01:002015-10-06T13:24:44.475+01:00Go away you unionist clown troll. Glasgow Working ...Go away you unionist clown troll. Glasgow Working Class indeed! Lol!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14307499874522130527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-70105372915970024012015-07-10T22:40:09.340+01:002015-07-10T22:40:09.340+01:00Gaavster your long winded reply to my comment was ...Gaavster your long winded reply to my comment was a case of you creating a long winded bubble of irrelevance. The SNP voted down the Labour government. That is factual history. The Nats assisted Thatcher into power and that is factual history. So when the red headed twin Nationalist supporters sing their sad Linwood no more just remember the SNP role in that.Glasgow Working Classnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-42725079956330188942015-07-10T18:08:12.482+01:002015-07-10T18:08:12.482+01:00You seem obsessed with peados is that why you are ...You seem obsessed with peados is that why you are anonymous?Glasgow Working Classnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-78887656082880634542015-07-10T16:54:14.041+01:002015-07-10T16:54:14.041+01:00I wont vote for either arse-cheek of the establish...I wont vote for either arse-cheek of the establishment enablers of pedophilia or the UKIP arseholes.<br />(Nor will i cast a vote for the Neo-Libdem shriveled hairy scrotum's) <br />Thats just me.<br />The Torys are busy destroying the lives of ordinary people the length of the country and turning Scotland into a colony and you talk of 1979.<br />Its 2015 you know.<br /><br />AJ<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-41588263168355409412015-07-10T14:04:19.886+01:002015-07-10T14:04:19.886+01:00I seem to recall we got a referendum and a lot of ...I seem to recall we got a referendum and a lot of people failed to attend the polls. So you admit the SNP who pretend they hate the Tories voted against Labour helping pave her way to power. The Nats are culpable in the destruction of Scottish jobs.Glasgow Working Classnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-21656320255551963602015-07-10T09:49:49.675+01:002015-07-10T09:49:49.675+01:00Oh God, now I'm dong it too. Don't feed t...Oh God, now I'm dong it too. Don't feed the troll.Rolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17849975010197698907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-58115520422448632902015-07-10T09:48:42.351+01:002015-07-10T09:48:42.351+01:00I sure as hell was around in 1979, and voting too....I sure as hell was around in 1979, and voting too. I remember all too clearly how Labour cheated us out of our devolved parliament, leaving the SNP no option but to vote against them.<br /><br />I also understand that the LibDems voted against them too, and that they were doomed anyway. Thatcher was coming, inexorably, and even if the entire vote of confidence thing hadn't happened at all, she'd have been in Downing Street within a few months regardless.<br /><br />There's also the little matter of the Callaghan government being utterly useless and incompetent, while at the time nobody had any idea what a horror Maggie would turn out to be. I remember being marginally relieved when she got in, thinking we needed some sort of change to get us out of the constant strikes and rubbish-filled streets.<br /><br />I didn't know she was going to devastate my community for decades to come, and neither did anybody else.<br /><br />Labour like to write their own little version of history that removes all blame from them, then shout at people who remember how it was and know that they're lying.Rolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17849975010197698907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-33074340880268749712015-07-10T03:39:59.434+01:002015-07-10T03:39:59.434+01:00A working class man who believes we need eternal r...A working class man who believes we need eternal rule by the elitist Brit establishment of pedophiles who hate the working classes. <br /><br />And calls others 'history deniers' (Sorry GWC but i did laugh at that!)<br /><br />Can you remain this brainwashed forever? I refuse to believe it.<br /><br />AJ<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-2575622505505393152015-07-10T02:01:13.242+01:002015-07-10T02:01:13.242+01:00Seems I have found a Cabal of history deniers who ...Seems I have found a Cabal of history deniers who unlike me were not around 1979. When you start the troll and do not feed the troll nonsense says it all.<br />I do look forward to showing my passport at Gretna bringing in the food parcels.Glasgow Working Classnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-25570467063182552562015-07-10T00:52:19.901+01:002015-07-10T00:52:19.901+01:00Sigh. Don't feed the troll. He probably won&...Sigh. Don't feed the troll. He probably won't even read it and if he does he'll find something to twist against you. Go read a good book or something!Rolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17849975010197698907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-17913054398830148262015-07-10T00:50:05.749+01:002015-07-10T00:50:05.749+01:00I think part of the problem with Stuart is that he...I think part of the problem with Stuart is that he swears like a trooper on Twitter, under the Wings logo, even though he doesn't do it on the blog. Those of us who know him shrug it off as just his little idiosyncrasy, but it does allow a bridge to be built between him personally and some of the btl zoomers on the blog. Unionists are always headlining some lurid tweet of his and implying that this is representative of his journalism, when in fact nothing could be further from the case.<br /><br />There's no way you'll stop him doing it though. Might as well try to turn back the 12.40 from Paddington. And sometimes he's hysterically funny, too.Rolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17849975010197698907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-18517580036185327242015-07-10T00:37:40.111+01:002015-07-10T00:37:40.111+01:00@Glasgow WC
If you accept as i do that Scotland is...@Glasgow WC<br />If you accept as i do that Scotland is a Country then to me it seems legitimate to hold the view that just maybe we would be better of with control of our own resources and finances.<br />Would you agree?<br />I also understand some people feel more 'British', cherish the Act of Union and feel loyalty to the Queen and her Westminster Government. This is also a legitimate viewpoint to have.<br />I admire loyalty but loyalty can be used and abused and never has that overt loyalty been abused more obviously than in the last few years.<br />Would you agree?<br />I find it interesting that you label those in favor of Indy as 'narrow minded followers' as although there are of course some of those on the 'Yes' side these seems a great many more of that description on the Unionist side as we face another 20 years of Tory Rule. <br />Or is it 'better a hundred years' than have those narrow minded types in control?<br />I wont ask if you agree. But will you consider that maybe we are not all driven by some 'Narrow Minded' Anti-English xenophobia?<br /><br />AJAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-90868058195801042352015-07-10T00:27:20.721+01:002015-07-10T00:27:20.721+01:00LOL!
The standard of Unionist Troll has definitel...LOL!<br /><br />The standard of Unionist Troll has definitely dropped, on here.<br /><br />At least the older ones had a sense of style and weren't so obviously slow.<br /><br />Still.....................with only three Scottish MPs and the very strong probability of losing a good few MSPs next year, you gotta sympathise with the poor wee things.<br /><br />They really are becoming a total and utter irrelevance up here.<br /><br />David Francishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07831337726172134852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-72020221204056262922015-07-10T00:19:05.398+01:002015-07-10T00:19:05.398+01:00From James Callaghan's autobiography "Tim...From James Callaghan's autobiography "Time and Chance"<br /><br />"“It was the adverse effect of the two Devolution referenda in Scotland and Wales that finally ended the Government’s life. Both were held on 1 March 1979, St David’s Day, for John Morris, the Secretary of State for Wales, had hoped that the compliment would strike a patriotic chord in Welsh hearts. But the valleys were deaf to the sound of our music, and rejected the blandishments by a huge majority of four to one. <br /><br />The Scottish result was better, with a slim majority voting in favour, but this counted as a defeat as the Devolution Act had provided (against the Government’s will), that 40 per cent of the total electorate must vote in favour*, so with those who abstained added in, the total fell well below the required figure.<br /><br />On the surface this was a surprising result, and I concluded that in the back of people’s minds, the merits of the case had become entangled with a vote on the Government’s popularity, which was not high even in Scotland because of the recent industrial disputes.<br /><br />Michael Foot telephoned me at home on Sunday 4 March to discuss the results. He was deeply disappointed for he had made Devolution his cause, and had overcome every obstacle to get the Bills through Parliament. These results required the Government, in accordance with the two Acts, to now lay an Order before Parliament for their total repeal.<br /><br />Michael is a fighter and he still thought the day could be saved. Why not, he said, lay the Repeal Order before Parliament, but invite the House to reject it? This would leave the Scottish Act on the statute book in accordance with the wish of the majority of those who had voted. But it would not come into force until a second Order, known as a Commencement Order, was laid, and this should be postponed until after a general election.<br /><br />It was an imaginative proposal, but from the start I did not approach it with an open mind.<br /><br />Michael Cocks, the Chief Whip, had spoken with some of Labour’s Devolution rebels. In his view the difficulty within the Party was much greater than any from the Scottish National Party and the Whips’ judgement was that the Government could not rely on the votes of Labour Members from Merseyside or the North if we moved to reject the Repeal Order.<br /><br />For three years we had believed in ourselves and in our capacity to govern and to win, despite all the odds against us. Now I sensed this was no longer true. Nearly thirty years earlier, as a junior Minister in the Attlee Government, I had watched demoralisation set in and a thick pall of self-doubt begin to envelop Ministers as they and the increasingly paralysed Government Departments and Civil Servants waited for the inevitable election.<br /><br />In 1979 seven months of life still lay ahead before a general election need be called, but I did not wish my administration to drag out the next few months, surviving only by wheeling and dealing. From the moment I knew we could not win a vote of no confidence I preferred to put the issue to the test of a general election.<br /><br />Even if the vote had gone in our favour I did not expect the election to be long delayed. Since Christmas the Government had suffered severe set-backs on incomes policy and on Devolution, and we could command a majority in the House of Commons for neither.<br /><br />Contrary to the myths which have sprung up since 1979, Labour did not lose support in the general election – our national vote was in fact slightly higher than it had been nearly five years earlier in October 1974, when we had won more seats than the Tories. It demonstrated how much steady understanding and support existed for what we had tried to do.<br /><br />But, tempted by promises of lower taxation and with memories of the winter, the abstaining Tories of 1974 had flocked back to their Party’s colours and this gave Mrs Thatcher a large majority of seats. It was a miracle that we had governed as long and effectively as we had.”<br /><br />Sorry to burst your bubble palGaavsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10282335400892164346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-24681760006771893532015-07-10T00:10:59.300+01:002015-07-10T00:10:59.300+01:00I wish someone would accuse us of hating the Welsh...I wish someone would accuse us of hating the Welsh or Northern Irish for a change.keatonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-24798979576111803232015-07-10T00:07:53.876+01:002015-07-10T00:07:53.876+01:00I should have mentioned that the SNP have entered ...I should have mentioned that the SNP have entered Westminster so they have to play with the rules which allow all members to have an opinion. You mentioned English showing your bias. And the Nats played by the rules and kicked Labour out 1979 knowing Thatcher would butcher jobs in Scotland. You were not interseted in working people and the poverty imposed just petty nationalism.Glasgow Working Classnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-55783648606299887132015-07-10T00:04:41.248+01:002015-07-10T00:04:41.248+01:00No, he's just a troll. Don't feed him.No, he's just a troll. Don't feed him.Rolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17849975010197698907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-8947057407965386692015-07-10T00:03:38.151+01:002015-07-10T00:03:38.151+01:00And that's your regularly scheduled troll post...And that's your regularly scheduled troll post for this evening.Rolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17849975010197698907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-45095983108962114432015-07-09T23:50:40.010+01:002015-07-09T23:50:40.010+01:00No evidence?????????????????
Did you read the MSM...No evidence?????????????????<br /><br />Did you read the MSM?????<br /><br /><br />You are either wearing a pair of blue-tinted specs or a are a few bricks shy of a full load.<br /><br />Or.......you are just a dense Unionist.David Francishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07831337726172134852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-26108239446983647112015-07-09T23:42:44.718+01:002015-07-09T23:42:44.718+01:00There is no evidence at all your comment is a typi...There is no evidence at all your comment is a typical Nationalist soundbite with no substance at all. You have a mission to promote division between the British people and it has not worked except with your own petty narrow minded followers.Glasgow Working Classnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-24373821293084864592015-07-09T23:29:21.505+01:002015-07-09T23:29:21.505+01:00all it takes is a single loud-mouthed fanatical oa...<i>all it takes is a single loud-mouthed fanatical oaf (even if they aren't in the SNP at all) to convince people.</i><br /><br />Na, it doesn't. The electorate are not that stupid.<br /><br />But yeah, oafs are not helpful usually.Scottish_Skiernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-50466128107551296662015-07-09T23:19:19.146+01:002015-07-09T23:19:19.146+01:00The only structured, widespread and co-ordinated e...The only structured, widespread and co-ordinated evidence of hatred towards any Country, during both the Referendum and the GE campaigns, was by the Conservative Party and their tame right-wing MSM.<br /><br />The sheer number of Anti-Scottish articles, Anti-Scottish phraseology, Anti Scottish cartoons and images - as well as the utterly misogynous garbage directed at Scotland's First Minister - was massive and relentless.<br /><br />This was NOT reflected in the Scottish-based Press, in relation to Anti-Englishness.<br />There was none.<br /><br />At the moment, the Unionist MSM and the Tories are continuing the scare stories about everything Scottish - it still has not stopped.<br /><br />Really does seem that they are absolutely determined to ridicule, deride or just (as in the Westminster English MPs blocking of ALL Scottish amendments to the Scotland Bill) ignore Scotland.<br /><br />There also seems to be a complete inability of some of the denser Unionists to acknowledge that there is a world of difference from a deep dislike and mistrust of the Westminster political system, as opposed to any particular nationality. <br /><br />David Francishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07831337726172134852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-33887591477732955032015-07-09T23:00:00.846+01:002015-07-09T23:00:00.846+01:00I'm very much in the unionist camp, but I'...I'm very much in the unionist camp, but I've always felt that Stuart Campbell gets unfairly targeted. His articles are very good, even if I disagree with them. I think he gets tarred by association due to some of the more unhinged people (Who obviously exist on both sides) who spend time on his website or link to him on social media.Stoatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-52403508355551213822015-07-09T22:39:44.553+01:002015-07-09T22:39:44.553+01:00I doubt the English are anti Scottish. It is the S...I doubt the English are anti Scottish. It is the Scottish Nationalists that are anti English. Why would the Nats want to leave the Union and hand power over to the EU. That can only mean hatred of our neighbour who we have mixed with for over three centuries. The trouble with the Nats is they they are dishonest. Just tell the truth you do detest the English.Glasgow Working Classnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-61927130427522704922015-07-09T20:57:12.266+01:002015-07-09T20:57:12.266+01:00You've illustrated perfectly why I'm conce...You've illustrated perfectly why I'm concerned that the BTL comments on Wings potentially do so much damage. <br /><br />The articles continue to excel, but BTL many seem to vie for most vituperative poster status, despite the Rev's valiant attempts to cut out the most ignorant, viz the bot to substitute the Q and T words.<br /><br />It's really no surprise that many of the more thoughtful posters have gravitated from there to here.Balhamnoreply@blogger.com