tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post603819765368431173..comments2024-03-29T10:59:58.341+00:00Comments on SCOT goes POP!: The Boris butterfly effect: what are the SNP's options in the unlikely event of a snap general election?James Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-1364873919068301852022-07-07T16:09:07.283+01:002022-07-07T16:09:07.283+01:00Seriously James, have you visited WGD lately? Thes...Seriously James, have you visited WGD lately? These people see Salmond as the Devil Incarnate and Sturgeon as the Virgin Mary. They will never support anything which has the mark of AS on it. I genuinely believe their hatred runs so deep they would rather lose a plebiscite than accept even one per cent if it came from Alba. I understand your attempts to rise above the squabbling in the interests of unity but the 'big tent' of 2014 is no more - only rainbow haired wokists and devotees of St Nicola are to count in any putative plebiscite (which I doubt will ever take place anyway). Sorry to be the voice of despair but, until the truth of Sturgeon's corruption over Salmondgate and the stolen money is revealed (and that will probably be by the press once any plebiscite starts), we are going nowhere.Felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00186552799719728005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-68302679318494494342022-07-07T10:39:55.132+01:002022-07-07T10:39:55.132+01:00With Johnston going that is another wasted opportu...With Johnston going that is another wasted opportunity for independence come and gone under Sturgeons watch. The chaos of the Brexit years under May - opportunity wasted by Sturgeon. 3 years later after May departs we are no further forward.<br /><br />The Tories get rid of leaders who are not delivering. The SNP members just munch on their carrots. Independence for Scotlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10335330210460885789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-26979504479188811772022-07-07T07:44:51.383+01:002022-07-07T07:44:51.383+01:00Personally, would find it very difficult 1to vote ...Personally, would find it very difficult 1to vote for the SNP if the next WM election is not a plebiscite election - whenever it is held. I really hope it doesn't pan out that way, but now and again I get a horrible feeling. Sorry Nicola, I have voted SNP for 30 years and I'm not interested in yet another mandate to have a referendum. Abstention or Alba would be the only alternatives IMO. If the SNP don't make the next vote a plebiscite, then Alba should - that could really attract a lot of potential voters, including myself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-52269185397760836802022-07-06T21:12:34.386+01:002022-07-06T21:12:34.386+01:00Robert, - WGD numpty Hamish100 misrepresents what ...Robert, - WGD numpty Hamish100 misrepresents what you posted. He misses out the fact that you state you would not vote SNP if the SNP do not make it a plebiscitary election on independence. He deliberately misrepresents your comment. Independence for Scotlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10335330210460885789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-86169465552089088662022-07-06T20:58:10.148+01:002022-07-06T20:58:10.148+01:00I would not be surprised if the promised use of a ...I would not be surprised if the promised use of a UK GE for a vote on independence morphed into a vote to have a mandate for a referendum once again. They wouldn't dare I hear people cry - oh yes they would.<br /> " Nicola Sturgeon's ultra cautious instincts" are because she wants to stay in power and has absolutely nothing to do with gaining Scottish Independence. Credit where credit is due - Sturgeon is a bloody good politician and politicians just love to say in power. An independence leader - just a means to an end for Sturgeon - and is a disaster for those of us who want independence. Independence for Scotlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10335330210460885789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-3204522224865226322022-07-06T16:26:22.938+01:002022-07-06T16:26:22.938+01:00In the event of a snap election, there is an argum...In the event of a snap election, there is an argument to continue to use it as a plebiscite on starting negotiations with London. It would be more attractive to fence sitters, undecided and soft Nos if you would guarantee a final referendum on the negotiated settlement. That will also have the advantage to see the advantages of independence and how bad a deal we have as part of the UK.tamdunlop68https://www.blogger.com/profile/10560526768591869797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-25310836193707245702022-07-06T15:00:59.370+01:002022-07-06T15:00:59.370+01:00If there is a snap GE in the near future, and I ag...If there is a snap GE in the near future, and I agree that seems unlikely, the SNP must make it a plebiscitary election on Independence, or I will not vote for them. For the first time since being eligible to vote, if there is not another pro-Independence candidate standing, I will abstain.<br /><br />What is the point in continuing the charade of voting for the SNP if they are not going to seize every opportunity to pursue freedom? I've had enough!<br />Robert Innesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-12286368098329167532022-07-06T14:44:17.764+01:002022-07-06T14:44:17.764+01:00you missed option 5 a fake electoral plebiscite: G...you missed option 5 a fake electoral plebiscite: Go into 2024 election having completely predicatably exhausted your poor attempts at getting a referendum through section 30 or otherwise and call it a plebiscitary election or as Angus Robertson said on newsnight within hours of Sturgeon's "announcement" "if we absolutely have to we will fight the next general election with independence as the key issue". This may mean say independence on the side of a bus instead of stop brexit and not much else. Having failed to engage the public and the grassroots turnout is normal around the 70% mark and SNP win 45% of the vote. <br /><br />Jobs for the boys remains and the UK govt having marginalised "the electoral plebiscite language during tke campaign never shut up about it after 0 saying you lost. Stenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-92109707729112536412022-07-06T14:17:27.872+01:002022-07-06T14:17:27.872+01:00If the Scottish government doesn't take full a...If the Scottish government doesn't take full advantage of England's current problems it will never be forgiven. Sturgeon has once again painted herself, and Scotland, into a corner with her lofty desire to follow Westminster law before taking radical action on our independence. How opportune does it have to be before she acts? England is in a total mess; time for Scotland to stick the knife in?<br /><br />If there is a snap GE it has to be option 1 or 2.<br /><br />Scotland won't win its independence by being cowardly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com