tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post5046963690334456501..comments2024-03-28T17:24:38.577+00:00Comments on SCOT goes POP!: Hubristic Hothersall's hopes for happy Easter left in ruins as cruel Survation poll predicts pensioner carnage for Scottish LabourJames Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comBlogger166125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-54397750875204926912016-03-30T06:06:24.170+01:002016-03-30T06:06:24.170+01:00(sounds the embittered red tory Klaxon)(sounds the embittered red tory Klaxon)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-57924158899437035582016-03-29T19:11:22.945+01:002016-03-29T19:11:22.945+01:00The Scottish people saw off the Nat sis in the bal...The Scottish people saw off the Nat sis in the ballot box something Nat sis have contempt for.<br /><br />Glasgow Working Class 2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-91705991366059172612016-03-29T18:26:17.453+01:002016-03-29T18:26:17.453+01:00ANONYMOUS
I did think that using the collective&#...ANONYMOUS<br /><br />I did think that using the collective'we'was not the right thing to do, after all I'm in no position to speak for all the seniors who voted NO.<br />Obviously I could not possibly speak for the people who VOTED YES, either.<br />I hope you don't regard this as claptrap, it will take more than that to chase me away from James very informative website. Jimmynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-52023692561940194472016-03-29T15:39:41.878+01:002016-03-29T15:39:41.878+01:00"What I'm trying to say is this - if a li..."What I'm trying to say is this - if a little bit of compassion from the British government could have seen off the Irish rebellion, then political tact and skill from the British government today can easily see off the Scottish Nationalists."<br /><br />And that, my dear Aldo, is why your beloved UK is doomed.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-47237694969242301062016-03-29T15:05:53.394+01:002016-03-29T15:05:53.394+01:00BTW, did anyone else see the BBC4 documentary last...BTW, did anyone else see the BBC4 documentary last night about the Easter rising in Ireland? I always assumed the British got an absolute doing and were effectively flung out of Ireland by military means. Not so - the UK forces crushed the rebellion, cheered on as they did so by a majority of Irish men and women. The turning point came when the leaders of the rebellion were butchered, behind closed doors, in a process that lasted several days. No mercy was shown. These brave men became martyrs and the rest, as they say, is history. Had the British government commuted their sentences or pardoned them, Ireland could well have been a part of the UK to this day.<br /><br />What I'm trying to say is this - if a little bit of compassion from the British government could have seen off the Irish rebellion, then political tact and skill from the British government today can easily see off the Scottish Nationalists.<br /><br />AldoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-44213800946056337342016-03-29T14:52:17.407+01:002016-03-29T14:52:17.407+01:00"They (16-19) voted 62.5% for YES"
Of c..."They (16-19) voted 62.5% for YES"<br /><br />Of course they did. They're just kids. I can't even bring myself to be annoyed at them. Their naivety is more cute than irritating. In fact, I would have expected the yes support to be a lot higher in this age group by the way some people have been going on about it - 80:20 yes, something in the region thereof. Instead, anything over a 12.5% swing puts no in a position of dominance with these voters. As they age and get educated, get jobs, start families and pay bills, I would expect the yes support to drop dramatically. By the time they are ready to retire, they'll be in the NO camp. But let's hope by then that the question no longer bears any relevance. 40 years of neverendum? Who'll be left to vote?<br /><br />AldoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-87488448200942900472016-03-29T14:39:48.341+01:002016-03-29T14:39:48.341+01:00It is fair enough to say that increasing the SNP n...It is fair enough to say that increasing the SNP numbers from 69 to, say, 74 is not "STORMING". but you seem to forget that this is a form of PR that is supposed to make ANY majority impossible. It shows the level that the pro-Westminster Managed Dependency parties have fdallen that suggesting another SNP Majority is, somehow, no big deal.<br /><br />Scotland deserves a far better opposition - one whose PRINCIPLE objective is how to benefit Scotland, not how to enable their London HQ to gain power.Tony Littlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02008273900618097432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-51906241608403672482016-03-29T13:34:54.291+01:002016-03-29T13:34:54.291+01:00In relation to the Study of Indy Voting, I forgot ...In relation to the Study of Indy Voting, I forgot to include the 16 - 19 age group.<br /><br />They voted 62.5% for YES.David Francishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07831337726172134852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-33375167708996231362016-03-29T13:34:10.571+01:002016-03-29T13:34:10.571+01:00A few points to make here:
1) If the young in Sco...A few points to make here:<br /><br />1) If the young in Scotland have favoured independence for decades, then many of those young people are, by this time, old people - and we know the old favour the union. So how can it be that old people who favour the union have always done so? Presumably at least some must have changed their minds. <br /><br />2) Life expectancy. It's increasing thanks to healthier lifestyles and advances in medicine. Many of the old people who voted no could be around for another 20 years. The baby boomers will be here for ages yet. By the time enough of them are dead to hand you a majority (and I'm not convinced it's as simple as that), the SNP could have been found out and gone the way of the Party of Quebec. <br /><br />3) Devolution is no preparation for independence. London may seem 'distant' to some Scots. The last time I flew I was positioned in a part of the plane where I couldn't see the wings. So I guess, in a way, they weren't at the forefront of my thoughts. <br /><br />We still needed them though!!<br /><br />AldoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-64661412234880044252016-03-29T13:17:12.020+01:002016-03-29T13:17:12.020+01:00That's the spirit.That's the spirit.keatonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-62209109280119460492016-03-29T12:54:21.183+01:002016-03-29T12:54:21.183+01:00Jimmy, Love your use of the collective "we&qu...Jimmy, Love your use of the collective "we" in reference to wanting a referendum. I, as a pensioner in full possession of all my faculties,am perfectly capable of taking decisions for myself and your presumptious "we" is quite offensive. You don't speak for me or thousands like me so take your Unionist claptrap elsewhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-262939284634509542016-03-29T12:29:09.916+01:002016-03-29T12:29:09.916+01:00Aye.But the SNP are on 43% and Labour are on 19% i...Aye.But the SNP are on 43% and Labour are on 19% in this poll of older folk.Jaiket on a shoogly nail.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-59803627842358025182016-03-29T12:02:09.032+01:002016-03-29T12:02:09.032+01:00(sounds the gibbering Yoon omnishambles Klaxon)(sounds the gibbering Yoon omnishambles Klaxon)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-39252185716790286412016-03-29T11:43:39.170+01:002016-03-29T11:43:39.170+01:00Nice theory, but the actuality is more mundane. Th...Nice theory, but the actuality is more mundane. They're just a couple of dickheads.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-8749367431161866142016-03-29T11:40:28.423+01:002016-03-29T11:40:28.423+01:00I don't imagine that hope of a meaningful devo...I don't imagine that hope of a meaningful devolution played a big part in senior citizens to mostly vote NO in the referendum.<br />There were several reasons why we voted NO, ranging from a desire to remain Scottish and British, dislike of the triumphalism of the SNP, a fear of a future independent Scotland dominated by the SNP and the hope that their children and grand children would have a better future to look forward to as part of a larger country. <br />By the way we didn't want an Independence Referendum but we fought it and won and the same applies if we have another Indy Ref<br />Jimmynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-71897666294017629232016-03-29T11:10:16.124+01:002016-03-29T11:10:16.124+01:00At least you admit to being naive but you have you...At least you admit to being naive but you have your sense of humour unlike most Nat sis.Glasgow Working Class 2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-60583696864576402522016-03-29T11:06:53.849+01:002016-03-29T11:06:53.849+01:00Well there you are so stop being a bigot and if ev...Well there you are so stop being a bigot and if every oo member and their tennis partners had voted yes you would still have lost such is the importance of the oo.Glasgow Working Class 2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-42843979736146926552016-03-29T11:05:06.016+01:002016-03-29T11:05:06.016+01:00Unionists won the referendum and the NO option is ...Unionists won the referendum and the NO option is still in front. There isn't much chance of a Yes majority anytime soon and even if there is, there would be no obligation on the UK govt to hold a referendum, as we already voted. Corbyn Labour went a point clear in the polls last week - do we rerun the GE next month because of that?<br /><br />Parliaments are for 5 years. This was for a generation. Deal with it. <br /><br />AldoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-25663688448297654022016-03-29T09:58:16.221+01:002016-03-29T09:58:16.221+01:00Just for a bit of fun I put those figures into thi...Just for a bit of fun I put those figures into this http://www.scotlandvotes.com/<br /><br />The results were <br /><br />SNP 62<br />Con 34 <br />Green 7<br />Labour 21 <br />LibDem 5 <br />UKIP 0<br /><br /> So, assuming Greens are still on side, you'd still have a majority at Holyrood for independence. <br /><br /> Not only that but without context we can't tell if there's any movement towards the SNP or independence in pensioners. Certainly they're the most likely age group to have voted No in the hopes of meaningful devolution. Also worth noting that the push towards more and more people having a works pension is lessening any threat losing the UK state pension may have had. Although when all's said and done Darling might have done a we bit of damage in claiming that any payment towards your state pension was meaningless.Iain McCordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04114399330514686626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-75089980365529086472016-03-29T09:26:51.929+01:002016-03-29T09:26:51.929+01:00Forgive me folks for my naivety, but might GWC &am...Forgive me folks for my naivety, but might GWC & Aldo be a splittish-personality trollingly related to the "Bayonnet" Davidson, Ian Densely-Unsmartiepants, "Mad Dug McT" et al tag-teaming with Foulksie over a heavy duty bevvy?<br /><br />Only a thought @PS GWC's shifting register, lexis, grammar, etc - from a discourse analysis point of view - is potentially fascinating scientifically and could complement the work of the Prof at Newsnet Scotland (tons of data out there (although maybe too much in the sense of analysing buckets of grains of sand from A beach in Toberymory. However, a meta-data-base could be archived for further research and reference to by one and all looking to do objective analyses and self-enquiry)).<br /><br />Just, a no doubt daft thought; but it might denude the Loonie Yoon Tunes of their bare-faced havers?<br /><br />Alternatively, archive the "buggery" out of everything:)<br /><br /><br /><br />Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02975588480290026016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-45383231309207782872016-03-29T08:22:33.323+01:002016-03-29T08:22:33.323+01:00Wave Machine,
we're everywhere.In every profes...Wave Machine,<br />we're everywhere.In every profession,in every workplace,in every church and in every pub.In sports centres and schools the length and breadth of Scotland.In Brussels and in Washington.In Paris and in London.In the UN.The idea that Scotland can be a normal,independent country is widespread and mainstream.Thats the result of the referendum.The situation has changed utterly.So have the odds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-58382629724884847622016-03-29T07:45:11.203+01:002016-03-29T07:45:11.203+01:00A poll of OAPs showing more than twice as much sup...A poll of OAPs showing more than twice as much support for the SNP as Labour is greeted with hysterical ravings from the lunatic fringe of unionism.Hilarious!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-41060190512249818242016-03-29T07:21:00.501+01:002016-03-29T07:21:00.501+01:00Actually GWC, I do know 2 members of the OO who vo...Actually GWC, I do know 2 members of the OO who voted Yes. <br /><br />They were utterly sick of the lies being told to them by the No media campaign. They were both also sick of being told that Scotland was no good. Thankfully they grew a pair and voted Yes.<br /><br />Orange, Monarchist, Rangers and Yes...a heady cocktail.Wave Machinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12336867873093212989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-90263176088295698072016-03-29T06:17:09.503+01:002016-03-29T06:17:09.503+01:00(sounds the fake plastic Weegie Klaxon)(sounds the fake plastic Weegie Klaxon)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-36105353719709609132016-03-29T06:15:53.162+01:002016-03-29T06:15:53.162+01:00(sounds the screeching Dreary Heil reader Klaxon)(sounds the screeching Dreary Heil reader Klaxon)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com