tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post4909593584300859891..comments2024-03-29T14:56:37.237+00:00Comments on SCOT goes POP!: YouGov poll : SNP retain lead in Westminster voting intentionsJames Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-39269203948180908232012-01-18T01:46:20.828+00:002012-01-18T01:46:20.828+00:00You don't need to go back as far as 1979 James...You don't need to go back as far as 1979 James. Up until the AV referendum votes were cast there were voices on the No side saying that a vote against AV wasn't a vote against reform. After the votes were in - what a surprise! - a vote against AV was a vote for FPTP and no reform ever.Angus McLellanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14238976801715524150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-7349160553281838652012-01-17T19:15:34.102+00:002012-01-17T19:15:34.102+00:00"And we have this spurious "vote no and ...<i>"And we have this spurious "vote no and then we'll think up some more devolution for you" argument from Labour."</i><br /><br />Call me cynical, but the words 'Sir Alec Douglas-Home' are springing to mind...James Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-20132795104996430062012-01-17T17:21:58.464+00:002012-01-17T17:21:58.464+00:00And we have this spurious "vote no and then w...And we have this spurious "vote no and then we'll think up some more devolution for you" argument from Labour. You can't ask about devolution in an independence referendum because they're completely opposed concepts. Like we have, say, 20 powers devolved and 10 retained and that's devolution within the Union. And then we get 25 powers devolved and 5 retained and that's still devolution within the Union. Then 29 devolved and one retained and that's..... And then 30 devolved and.....<br /><br />Not a continuum. Not at all. Totally opposed concepts. Obviously.EricFnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-62256344738310187262012-01-17T13:48:42.087+00:002012-01-17T13:48:42.087+00:00Every poll suggests that the option of devo-max is...Every poll suggests that the option of devo-max is more popular than either independence or status quo.<br /><br />It is odd that the Liberal Democrats whose stated aim is federalism, with almost all powers devolved to the Celtic capitals (and of course London, as England's capital) seem so determined not to have their choice on the ballot paper.<br /><br />Labour too seem to agree that the status quo is not good enough, so you would think that they would prefer a second question with an option of THEIR choice.<br /><br />I'm strongly for independence. Anything else seems to me to be an insult, and foreign policy and military matters, which under devo-max, would remain in the hands of London (and effectively because of it's sheer size, England), are two of the points with which I have most issues.<br /><br />However, if the Scots want devo-max, surely that should be what they have. After all, we can look at it as another stepping stone on the route to independence.<br /><br />We would never be in the position we are in today of even discussing a referendum, had some had their way and refused to take part in the current devolution settlement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com