tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post4892501881965205449..comments2024-03-28T13:13:12.506+00:00Comments on SCOT goes POP!: Does James Mackenzie have a problem with alternative points of view?James Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-91778164954816174222013-05-13T00:21:54.678+01:002013-05-13T00:21:54.678+01:00Rest assured, Fitz, that your unimpressive one-wor...Rest assured, Fitz, that your unimpressive one-word reply will continue to be displayed here - a policy that I suspect you shouldn't approve of, correct?James Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-21318346701042757122013-05-12T13:44:15.375+01:002013-05-12T13:44:15.375+01:00Clearly you think so Fitz.
I repeat that if you m...Clearly you think so Fitz.<br /><br />I repeat that if you make a non offensive comment on a blogpost, whilst the writer may not wish to answer you, decency requires that (s)he should display the post.<br /><br />Of course not everyone is decent.<br /><br />People who build their arguments on flimsy foundations may not wish to see them debunked, and may feel confronted to see that every comment on their blog is in complete accord with their own view.<br /><br />When a contribution is offensive it is quite reasonable to remove it, or refuse to print it...although, on my blog I've only ever done that once, in a case where the respondent posted drunkenly and swore liberally.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-51213419045017426672013-05-12T02:38:42.141+01:002013-05-12T02:38:42.141+01:00"whilst you may not have the right to a reply..."whilst you may not have the right to a reply, you certainly have the right to have it displayed" <br /><br />Nonsense.<br /><br /><br /><br /> Fitznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-74262467122248034552013-05-08T23:56:26.952+01:002013-05-08T23:56:26.952+01:00It seems to me that he's just one of these peo...It seems to me that he's just one of these people who believes he is right and that you, whomsoever you are, are wrong.<br /><br />I gave up on Better Nation some time ago, as I do with most sites that moderate comments. <br /><br />It seems to me that if, like me, you don't make offensive posts (just sometimes ask awkward questions), and you have taken the time to write a comment on someone's blog, whilst you may not have the right to a reply, you certainly have the right to have it displayed.<br /><br />I apparently didn't.<br /><br />They seem to be getting more crotchety as time goes by, probably because, as the Rev Stu says, they aren't any longer anywhere near being top dogs in Scottish blogging.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-41151230702322239592013-05-08T16:50:41.666+01:002013-05-08T16:50:41.666+01:00James, thanks for that reply. That makes sense, at...James, thanks for that reply. That makes sense, at least to us grown-ups.<br /><br />Just wanted to add, that I think that the Rev Stu is bang on the money here in his penultimate sentence above. I would suggest that Better Nation, and the self-appointed cyber-police who organise Twinners, are suffering from the blogosphere’s equivalent of penis envy – the interest and enthusiasm that WoS generates, rightfully belongs to them, don’t you know. Or in the words of Dads Army’s Corporal Jones, ‘They don’t like it up them, Captain Mannering’. But as Corporal Jones also understood, they do seem to like dishing it out themselves, don’t they?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-5029939311730014652013-05-08T16:22:51.072+01:002013-05-08T16:22:51.072+01:00Anon: I presume James M started saying those pecul...Anon: I presume James M started saying those peculiar things in retaliation for my repeated references to "radical feminism" - but of course that is a perfectly straightforward, widely-recognised term that has its own lengthy <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_feminism" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia page</a>. And needless to say it's not interchangeable with the term "feminism", no matter how much James would like to give the impression that his radical views represent mainstream feminist values that no reasonable person should have any difficulty signing up to.<br /><br />Incidentally, this post has made quite an impression on James - he's continued to shower me with compliments on Twitter. Yesterday I was a "misogynist", today I'm an "anti-feminist Cybernat". Jeez, we're really going to have to do something about this small minority of Yes supporters who engage in mindless ad hominem attacks on social media, aren't we? The antics of Mr Mackenzie and his ilk are damaging to our whole campaign...James Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-17691074492218725352013-05-08T16:02:23.629+01:002013-05-08T16:02:23.629+01:00Can someone explain to me what a ‘radical’ sexist ...Can someone explain to me what a ‘radical’ sexist and a ‘radical’ racist is? If not, I’ll just have to stick with my first impression and conclude that anyone who uses such absurd terms has become so outraged at having their own prejudices challenged that all logic and capacity for reasoned argument has deserted them. If I didn’t know any better, I’d say that this makes them radically incoherent. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-22359247183269884972013-05-08T10:06:02.367+01:002013-05-08T10:06:02.367+01:00Well I'm a woman and I think men and women are...Well I'm a woman and I think men and women are different. EQUAL but different. It's not difficult to understand the distinction is it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-2848597880368323962013-05-08T08:14:24.035+01:002013-05-08T08:14:24.035+01:00Better ask for my comments back then, eh? Or then ...Better ask for my comments back then, eh? Or then again maybe I'll just no bother as the man does tend to act like a bit of a big bairn. pictishbeastiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06732186968973388182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-65145978348647229942013-05-08T08:11:50.756+01:002013-05-08T08:11:50.756+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.pictishbeastiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06732186968973388182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-58753400173500614662013-05-07T20:48:33.359+01:002013-05-07T20:48:33.359+01:00For the sake of balance, I should say that as far ...For the sake of balance, I should say that as far as I can remember I've never had a comment deleted on Better Nation - although that may be largely because I self-censor, and don't bother posting things that I know run a high risk of being deleted on ideological grounds.<br /><br />One thing that made me laugh was that James linked to this post (in fact he's now linked to it twice) with the following introduction - <i>"If anyone wants to see how frustrating it is to try and debate positively with anti-feminists..."</i>. I don't want to be unkind, but I have a sneaking feeling that what he means by 'frustrating' is "but...but...there isn't a delete button on Twitter!"<br /><br />What does he think he means by "anti-feminist", anyway? I'm certainly opposed to radical feminism, but that's only one strain of feminism. Some would say that 'standard' feminism is simply a belief in the equality of the sexes, in which case I'm a strong feminist myself - although it's the wrong word for it, because equality is about two genders, not one.<br /><br />Other things I've learned today - 1. James still sees no irony in pontificating about the ghastly 'Cybernats' launching ad hominem attacks, even though he and he alone introduced an ad hominem attack ("mysoginist", "must not care for women very much") into this exchange.<br /><br />2. He also doesn't see the irony of insisting that debate means "aiming to understand each other's argument", and then making absolutely no attempt whatever to understand my own position. Instead he lazily projected his own prejudices onto my stance, ie. 'anyone who repudiates radical feminist dogma is by definition a woman-hater'.<br /><br />That offer to return deleted comments upon request is rather amusing - I imagine James thought no-one would have the gumption to take him up on it!James Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-62808671762769579742013-05-07T20:04:43.088+01:002013-05-07T20:04:43.088+01:00I can't stomach all that complex scaffolding t...I can't stomach all that complex scaffolding that these guys build to try and justify what types of bigotry and discrimination are good and what are bad. Orwellian is a good word for it. And that high horse of his - oy veh! I stopped reading BN months ago.commentorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10321173541321374705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-48342624328896979002013-05-07T19:19:18.796+01:002013-05-07T19:19:18.796+01:00Looks like you've discovered what some of us h...Looks like you've discovered what some of us have known for a while - Mr Mackenzie is a nasty, intolerant hypocrite and absolutely no dissent from the orthodoxy of radical feminism, however civil, is permitted on Better Nation.<br /><br />(Or indeed on a lot of other subjects if you disagree with James, but feminism is the real hot button.)<br /><br />I've had more comments refused on BN than I could count, almost none of them in any way rude or abusive (the last one was, in fairness), and their promise that they'll return unpublished ones to you if you ask is bollocks too. I asked James for mine LAST February and I'm still waiting.<br /><br />He's a really ugly piece of work, in very much the same vein as the rest of the "Twinner" set - nice as pie as long as you agree with them about everything, hurling abuse the minute you don't. It's textbook bullying, closing down the debate with a mixture of censorship and shrieking.<br /><br />(Just seen your edit. Welcome to the Misogynist Club. I have no doubt you'll soon be escalated to "rape apologist" the minute EdinburghEye turns up.)<br /><br />The bottom line is, they're all furious because they used to be the top dogs in Scottish political blogging, and now they're irrelevant hasbeens. If they're what a "better nation" constitutes, I'm voting No.RevStuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03915111503712807257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-64912884565809468162013-05-07T18:22:58.773+01:002013-05-07T18:22:58.773+01:00The evil of feminism. All men are rapists. Only m...The evil of feminism. All men are rapists. Only men can be guilty of domestic violence. Genital mutilation of boys is harmless etc etc.<br /><br />The most vile and perverted ideology in the history of the human race. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com