tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post466368665816240540..comments2024-03-28T09:36:06.579+00:00Comments on SCOT goes POP!: Subsample average puts SNP on 45%James Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-67741821143740083882017-05-11T16:02:33.308+01:002017-05-11T16:02:33.308+01:00They always do that.They always do that.James Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-89113454415166233812017-05-11T13:17:33.599+01:002017-05-11T13:17:33.599+01:00It's more a sign of muddled thinking if you ba...It's more a sign of muddled thinking if you bang on about the advantages of one union but only about the disadvantages of another union. And green doesn't mean pro-independence, green means pro-environment: use less energy, make less waste. Sadly though the scottish greens have been hijacked by types who have indy leanings but for social reasons don't want to associate too closely with the types who support snp. In that sense it mirrors how labour's been taken over by momentum.<br /><br />For comparison, I don't see the english greens pushing for english independence, do you? That's because they're actually bothered about green stuff. Being a proper green party and that.WeSaidNoToYesMennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-30478934063819783652017-05-11T12:23:51.353+01:002017-05-11T12:23:51.353+01:00I've never really understood why Scottish nati...I've never really understood why Scottish nationalists fret over apparent Tory surges. Surely you can see that this is a long game, and the vitally important aspect is that Labour is dead in Scotland. Now, people are being forced to choose up sides. They're either proper Scots or English lackeys. With Labour gone, there's no "internationalist" cover in the centre ground. In the short term the Tories might do all right among people who cling to the fiction that the UK is not Greater England, but that won't last. We're in the end game now.Bellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06190656631060298475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-78239005766623024612017-05-11T12:18:20.504+01:002017-05-11T12:18:20.504+01:00James the YG tables are out and had the SNP on 46%...James the YG tables are out and had the SNP on 46% but for sime reason they have combined SNP/PC together? Does this make a difference to the SNP VI for Scotland?Greenocknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-77796900187614895962017-05-11T12:11:58.833+01:002017-05-11T12:11:58.833+01:00and you can take that from a Green party member wh...and you can take that from a Green party member who will be voting SNP. Incidentally by proposing independence and membership of the EU the SNP are de facto giving our environment the best chance at protective legislation regardless if that it there primary consideration or not. The Lib dems cant stop Brexit regardless of how EU they want to be. The SNP can...but only through the mechanism of independence. We are through the looking glass now. Its independence vs hard brexit. Lib dems and Labour are caught on the fence. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-76803583784481921612017-05-11T12:07:18.413+01:002017-05-11T12:07:18.413+01:00Except that wasn't the SNP plan for 2014 was i...Except that wasn't the SNP plan for 2014 was it. Greens are pro-EU, pro environment, pro-independence. None of the other parties aligns closely other than the SNP. Lib-dems propped up a despicable conservative government so hardly a match for Greens. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-24911791832987130932017-05-11T12:05:53.007+01:002017-05-11T12:05:53.007+01:00Good points but no one has said that all the Green...Good points but no one has said that all the Green votes will go to the SNP.The Tories are making this election in Scotland all about independence so I wouldn't be at all surprised if most Greens would vote for a pro independence candidate if a Green was not standing. Greenocknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-20908424449953666522017-05-11T12:04:41.395+01:002017-05-11T12:04:41.395+01:00I find it hard to believe that support for the Tor...I find it hard to believe that support for the Tories is really up at almost a third of the electorate - wouldn't that mean that a good two thirds of Labour supporters have defected to their traditional class enemies?<br /><br />I know that those subset polls have to be taken with unhealthy doses of salt, but I'm sincerely puzzled nontheless, and also not brilliant with statistics, so help me out please, someone!ejfjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10154337168320710486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-1704621870532245222017-05-11T11:59:07.693+01:002017-05-11T11:59:07.693+01:00What if you're a green who votes green for env...What if you're a green who votes green for environmental concerns rather than independence? After all if independence was your biggest driver you'd just vote snp anyways. Greens are more likely to stay at home or vote lib dem, a pro-eu and pro-environment party. The SNP aren't pro-evironment, their grand plan from 2014 was to run an oil state.WeSaidNoToYesMennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-88011546452640570382017-05-11T11:18:25.115+01:002017-05-11T11:18:25.115+01:00We should not be complacent! We desperately need t...We should not be complacent! We desperately need to get out the younger voters.douglas clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11422060678908705962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-43811582843968455922017-05-11T11:15:07.838+01:002017-05-11T11:15:07.838+01:0050 seats would be a very good night for the SNP. I...50 seats would be a very good night for the SNP. Im sure Angus Robertson will hold onto his seat but Perth looks quite tricky as the council results had the Tories in front . adding on some of the Green VI then the SNP are in the mid 40's.Greenocknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-54432656747595822942017-05-11T10:39:08.633+01:002017-05-11T10:39:08.633+01:00The Google poll considering all things is not a di...The Google poll considering all things is not a disaster for the SNP. Adding on some of the Green VI then the SNP are in the mid 40's.The news paper has made a mistake with the SNPs 2015 result and think they have posted the 2016 Scottish election result. Greenocknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-68186189100352586462017-05-11T10:27:49.299+01:002017-05-11T10:27:49.299+01:00Looked at that Scotsman poll. If the best result i...Looked at that Scotsman poll. If the best result in 25 years means 24% for the Tories. Then that changes nothing. They are 16% behind the SNP on 40% . The green vote is at 7% but only 3 are standing. Add at least 4% of that overestimated Green vote and the SNP are nearly 20% ahead. The media and the Tories are trying to create an illusion here. Leading others to vote Tory by endorsing their alleged momentum.<br /><br />I think they will get 5 Mp's , SNP 50 and the others will go Lib Dem. A monumental defeat of unionism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-10357490587958850502017-05-11T09:14:44.419+01:002017-05-11T09:14:44.419+01:00http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/general-elec...http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/general-election/survey-tories-set-for-best-election-result-in-25-years-1-4442513<br /><br />Another strange google survey.<br /><br />Also has greens on there which will presumably push up SNP share more than what they are saying.<br /><br />chalksnoreply@blogger.com