tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post4002539559736720687..comments2024-03-28T17:12:42.847+00:00Comments on SCOT goes POP!: The pro-independence majority in the Scottish Parliament has just increased to 69-59James Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-81100517443518350842016-05-13T14:20:36.339+01:002016-05-13T14:20:36.339+01:00Folks, there isn't going to be an indyref 2 th...Folks, there isn't going to be an indyref 2 this side of the next Scottish Parliament election. If there is a majority of pro independence members after the next election (having ran with that in their manifestos), then you may be on to something. But that is doubtful. <br /><br />It has been well and truly punted into the long grass. Democracy is being served. <br /><br />AldoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-23856181708794385102016-05-13T13:16:48.571+01:002016-05-13T13:16:48.571+01:00In fairness, that could be down more to Robertson ...In fairness, that could be down more to Robertson than to Hosie.keatonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-2545017411987399822016-05-13T13:13:28.202+01:002016-05-13T13:13:28.202+01:00So you keep holding referendum after referendum un...<i>So you keep holding referendum after referendum until a majority of 50%+1 is achieved and then, that's it - Scotland is independent? I have the feeling it will be a hollow victory - as the country will have been torn in two in the process followed by a mass exodus and possibly armed conflict. </i><br /><br />Independence supporters have lived under the Union all this time without going the paramilitary route. Why should Unionists be innately more violent and unable to pursue their goals through democratic means?keatonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-19512630375239546952016-05-13T13:07:52.272+01:002016-05-13T13:07:52.272+01:00Since the £ sterling is an internationally traded ...<i>Since the £ sterling is an internationally traded currency they cannot stop us using it. We could do as Ireland did, and wait till it is convenient to us to bring in a new currency of our own. </i><br /><br />But that wasn't the SNP position. They didn't suggest using the pound as an interim step. Their proposal was to use it indefinitely.<br /><br />Sturgeon has acknowledged that there were problems with the case presented, so I'm hopeful that they're going to iron this stuff out.keatonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-64820747179404839292016-05-13T12:53:41.063+01:002016-05-13T12:53:41.063+01:00We can't afford to wait much longer, next coup...We can't afford to wait much longer, next couple of years for Indy ref#2, otherwise the westmonster establishment will have imposed more fully their scorched earth operations onto Scotland. As for trade across the border, hell, how many businesses have abandoned Scotland I wonder just recently, including chairities who have taken their operations donwn to London. <br /><br />Almost every bag of supermarket veg, much of the bread etc, has the in your face, fck off britnat flag on it. I really do not think they would stop sending their goods to Scotland after independence, they depend on us far too much for that! <br /><br />Trade would carry on as normal. We need more people to fly direct to Scotland, tourism must bring in huge revenues, you can't move for tourists in Edinburgh at the moment! Scotland will manage quite nicely without being forced to send all revenues to london, to be given a few quid back in pocket as it is at the moment. <br /><br />And let's see what the EU ref brings in June shall we, before we start on with the usual, same unionist pap about currency and trade etc. <br /><br />The 'too many unanswered questions' brigade were given such huge backing by the establishment media, it was incessant in the lead up to our independence referendum, never mind the huge dodgy power cuts, and old folks not being able to get their pensions from their P.O. accounts just before the vote. <br /><br />100% media bias and lies lost the refernedum last time, many have become wise to their lies now! <br /><br /><br />hettyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14336425954068503728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-65276251311909770672016-05-13T12:29:43.918+01:002016-05-13T12:29:43.918+01:00Sorry, Hosie. Sorry, Hosie. Tom Tumiltynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-81460308786769063912016-05-13T12:27:27.760+01:002016-05-13T12:27:27.760+01:00Aldi, if Stewart House is such a poor communicato...Aldi, if Stewart House is such a poor communicator of the case for independence, how is it that in the debate he had with George Robertson at Abertawe University, the audience started out around 60 - 40 against independence before they spoke and ended up about 70 - 30 in favour afterwards? Tom Tumiltynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-12345827130797022016-05-13T09:48:21.293+01:002016-05-13T09:48:21.293+01:00A state of devolution isn't comparable to the ...A state of devolution isn't comparable to the state of being independent, John. You have to give answers to tough questions - and some of those questions have no satisfactory answers. If we're going to be too different from the union, people don't want that. If we're going to be the same or similar, people ask "what's the point?"<br /><br />AldoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-3756915242211149712016-05-13T06:16:59.302+01:002016-05-13T06:16:59.302+01:00What's that got to do with the price of fish, ...What's that got to do with the price of fish, 23?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-57783103712564759252016-05-13T06:15:35.562+01:002016-05-13T06:15:35.562+01:00Please remind us how many Labour MPs went to jail ...Please remind us how many Labour MPs went to jail for massive expense fiddling...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-41991386353340619652016-05-13T06:13:28.557+01:002016-05-13T06:13:28.557+01:00Sling yer hook and take the stink of cordite with ...Sling yer hook and take the stink of cordite with you, 23.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-9645015762228814232016-05-13T01:26:08.094+01:002016-05-13T01:26:08.094+01:00Skier, you seem to be living in a narrow parochial...Skier, you seem to be living in a narrow parochial world where a bit of fiddling is your quest. As if your Nat sis are clean.<br />Glasgow Working Class 2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-82534683036666526432016-05-13T00:43:51.236+01:002016-05-13T00:43:51.236+01:00Skier, your great hero Kim gumgo Eck said he was B...Skier, your great hero Kim gumgo Eck said he was British!Glasgow Working Class 2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-55229320287655619682016-05-12T22:34:04.918+01:002016-05-12T22:34:04.918+01:00By the next referendum the Queen will be dead and ...By the next referendum the Queen will be dead and it will be Donald Trump telling us we have to stick with Boris and IDS.<br /><br />We will still have the BBC though so that makes it roughly evens.Craig Pnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-37787282871723298322016-05-12T21:55:08.051+01:002016-05-12T21:55:08.051+01:00Scottish Unionists get to retain their British cit...Scottish Unionists get to retain their British citizenship, so remain British, if Scotland becomes independent.<br /><br />I'm not trying to stop you being British, and Scottish indy wouldn't take that away from you; you'd get to keep your British citizenship, as agreed by both governments.<br /><br />I'm happy for you to have yer wee British passport to look at lovingly. It's you that wants to deny me my Scottish one at all costs. You also want to take my EU citizenship away from me too, even if a majority of Scottish people like me want to keep that citizenship.<br /><br />So, away and fuck off. Scottish_Skiernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-86312606401329796562016-05-12T21:44:36.297+01:002016-05-12T21:44:36.297+01:00Scotland has had a history of armed conflict betwe...Scotland has had a history of armed conflict between Clans and also the English. It happened in Yugoslavia. Are you saying humans in Scotland are different from others?Glasgow Working Class 2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-91556206579587555852016-05-12T21:40:03.695+01:002016-05-12T21:40:03.695+01:00Does that mean all Unionists in the UK? What if th...Does that mean all Unionists in the UK? What if the Unionists in Orkney and Shetland, Dumfries and Galloway wanted to stay in the Union!Glasgow Working Class 2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-7100689357174644162016-05-12T21:21:12.967+01:002016-05-12T21:21:12.967+01:00Only the P.O. gives up voting rights, Niall. As Li...Only the P.O. gives up voting rights, Niall. As Linda Fabiani has said on her Twitter timeline this evening.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-2976340459675140362016-05-12T20:34:42.893+01:002016-05-12T20:34:42.893+01:00https://twitter.com/jonsnowC4/status/7307508820155...https://twitter.com/jonsnowC4/status/730750882015531008<br /><br /><i>Jon SnowVerified account</i><br /><b>@jonsnowC4</b><br /><i>1st time in history that the Electoral Commission has started legal proceedings against any political party:Tories finally yield papers</i>Scottish_Skiernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-16918746598615746792016-05-12T19:42:08.916+01:002016-05-12T19:42:08.916+01:00Why are unionists so against people re-affirming t...Why are unionists so against people re-affirming their support for the union in a future referendum?Scottish_Skiernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-7530486680342147442016-05-12T19:31:36.003+01:002016-05-12T19:31:36.003+01:00Back on topic..... (heh)
Do the presiding officer...Back on topic..... (heh)<br /><br />Do the presiding officer's two deputies have votes? What about when one of them is in the chair? In that case does the PO still not have a vote? Ken M has 2 SNP deputies, I understand.Niallnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-62803274225907690132016-05-12T19:15:31.999+01:002016-05-12T19:15:31.999+01:00Some important information for Tory voters.
Most ...Some important information for Tory voters.<br /><br />Most of us who don't vote Tory already know this, but I can appreciate you'd not necessarily trust us, so here you go.<br /><br />https://archive.is/cuJOt<br /><br /><b>Iain Duncan Smith: Treasury is 'worst thing in Britain'</b><br /><br /><i>Former work and pensions secretary Iain Duncan Smith has called for the Treasury to be broken up, branding George Osborne's department "the worst thing in Britain".<br /><br />The former Cabinet minister said that the Treasury dominated Government decision-making but was characterised by a "lack of vision" and a "short-term" obsession with cuts.</i>scottish skiernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-62196904984481299482016-05-12T18:53:24.328+01:002016-05-12T18:53:24.328+01:00Aldo...eff you and your "possibly armed confl...Aldo...eff you and your "possibly armed conflict".kailyard ruleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11098989013431186162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-56817885067426496692016-05-12T17:39:15.885+01:002016-05-12T17:39:15.885+01:00It's heart warming to witness the Unionist obs...It's heart warming to witness the Unionist obsession with "The Next Referendum". Does it ever occur to them that independence can be won at the ballot box without a referendum? The slow action train crash that is the Westminster legislature could quite possibly in such a state of disarray by the next Scottish Parliament elections that the SNP include terminating the Union in their manifesto.teeth in the glassnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-3366175281717457172016-05-12T17:33:46.291+01:002016-05-12T17:33:46.291+01:00What's wrong with:
The pound is an internatio...What's wrong with:<br /><br />The pound is an internationally traded currency, if they wanted to stop us using it then they'd cripple the financial industry that the City of London relies on (because they'd have to stop *everyone* from using it). Also, how many shops in Edinburgh accept Euros?<br /><br />There's really no need for an "official" currency for a country. After all, it's just an accepted proxy for trade value. London runs on currency issues, because it's a banker's paradise. That doesn't mean normal people need to care.<br /><br />What's next? EU?<br /><br />The UK seems to fundamentally want out of the EU, and Spain's fishing grounds are dependent on Scottish waters being within the EU. It took something like 4 years of talks for Greenland to extricate itself from the EU (It joined because it's a protectorate of Denmark). There's every chance an Independent Scotland could inherit the UK's membership, rather than England. Also, the EU is wanting to expand, do you *really* think they'd turn down new members?<br /><br />Defense:<br /><br />How long did it take to get the Russian sub escorted out of the firth? How did the MoD find out there was even a Russian sub in the firth? Yeah, we get jack shit defense from being in the Union anyway.<br /><br />Central bank: See currency. Or we could inherit and beef up RBS. It's supposed to be nationally owned since the bailout, right?<br /><br />Seriously, these are non-issues once you start thinking about them. They were picked because they're fast questions to ask, but take a bit more to answer.<br /><br />It's like asking "why is the sky blue?" it's a really fast and simple question to ask, but the answer goes into some pretty deep optical physics to explain why blue light bends more than red in the atmosphere. And the media isn't only wanting the quantum mechanics level of explanation, they're wanting it in three sentences or less, *and* they're pretending to not understand the simplest bits of geometry in the explanation.<br /><br />*That* is why trying to answer the questions they raise is a mugs game.Illynoreply@blogger.com