tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post3638223005991642107..comments2024-03-29T10:31:21.056+00:00Comments on SCOT goes POP!: Serious questions for the Electoral Commission tonight as inexplicable ruling appears to have robbed the Greens (and thus the pro-independence camp) of two seats they should have wonJames Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-31485605686923664082021-05-09T22:01:28.485+01:002021-05-09T22:01:28.485+01:00I have opined for years that we are the last domin...I have opined for years that we are the last dominion of the British Empire and they “the English “ will not let us go easily. Like others before us we must take independence as our birthright and separate from our neighbours while continuing to support each other in common interests Scotland aye. John Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02208439459064983206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-80943291614408263572021-05-09T18:42:40.891+01:002021-05-09T18:42:40.891+01:00This is a good thing. It means for the next ref we...This is a good thing. It means for the next ref we won't use the electoral commission again. Not to be trusted.The Dossierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00955904537141302038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-34972387273351809822021-05-09T17:24:47.230+01:002021-05-09T17:24:47.230+01:00Yes it is odd how the electoral commission stopped...Yes it is odd how the electoral commission stopped ALBA having their logo on election forms but did nothing to stop a political party naming their party almost the same as another party.<br /><br />When it comes to anything british substitute english and you will be better prepared to think about accountability , the fact is we have seen the prime minister tell lies and half his cabinet too we have also seen the BBC tell lies then STV and SKY and the radio stations repeat their lies , we also see newspapers telling lies regularly , we in Scotland have been colonised we cannot trust any agencies that take orders from westminster or are connected to westminster by business , so that includes the electoral commission and it includes pollsters.Time after time we see this endemic british corruption as they treat Scotland as if it is part of england.terence callachanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13039089494590202434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-24222204287865053922021-05-09T15:47:16.481+01:002021-05-09T15:47:16.481+01:00There were only three main parties contesting the ...There were only three main parties contesting the election, the greens the SNP and the English nationalist parties trying and managing to rig the votes for the constituencys.William Purveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11485363393095886989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-27783331622170859412021-05-09T15:21:19.159+01:002021-05-09T15:21:19.159+01:00He means on the constituency vote. Pro-independen...He means on the constituency vote. Pro-independence parties won a majority on the all-important #PeachVote.James Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-46210366491330085522021-05-09T15:20:14.219+01:002021-05-09T15:20:14.219+01:00Founded by a former SNP MSP: Scotia Future, perhap...Founded by a former SNP MSP: Scotia Future, perhaps the weest free of them all, stood in South of Scotland at least. They got less than 10 votes in the seats I was looking at.<br /><br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotia_FutureJohn Muirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03504911008024714834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-19486798460028881132021-05-09T15:19:00.819+01:002021-05-09T15:19:00.819+01:00Yes it would be better, 10 more pro-indy voices an...Yes it would be better, 10 more pro-indy voices and ten less interchangable BritNats and all the funding that goes with it.David Russellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01078560224458269349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-7727105370390369442021-05-09T14:56:19.847+01:002021-05-09T14:56:19.847+01:00Also in the 1995 Perth by-election a chap, Michael...Also in the 1995 Perth by-election a chap, Michael Halford stood as the Scottish Conservatory & Unionist and gathered 88 votes.Marciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11303213282884555577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-28939267688822717832021-05-09T14:42:11.711+01:002021-05-09T14:42:11.711+01:00Michael Gove is saying the Brit parties won a majo...Michael Gove is saying the Brit parties won a majority of the 2021 HR popular vote - has anyone got the actual figures?Steviehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18226832161404154663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-73474725741739131602021-05-09T14:31:56.284+01:002021-05-09T14:31:56.284+01:00Do you really believe that if yesterday had produc...Do you really believe that if yesterday had produced say 2 SNP (all you could realistically expect), 12 Green and 6 Alba list MSPs by tactical voting alone, so still having 51% of the list vote,that unionists wouldn't be crying foul? <br /><br />With the constitution so high up the agenda the ONLY way of ensuring a majority of MSPs that can't be challenged is by having a majority of the electorate vote for them. As it turns out we have more independence supporting MSPs than the 48/51% of the vote would warrant. If the unionists want to try to claim that isn't a majority then tough titty, in all practical terms it's going to exist for the term of this Holyrood parliment no matter how loudly they shout.Ravelinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05503643002323026453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-81676485516682672562021-05-09T13:51:55.376+01:002021-05-09T13:51:55.376+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Rolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17849975010197698907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-36745296448541564272021-05-09T13:18:14.640+01:002021-05-09T13:18:14.640+01:00It jogged my memory back to the 1994 European elec...It jogged my memory back to the 1994 European elections when a candidate calling his party "Literal Democratic Party" polled over 10,000 votes and denied the LD from winning the Devon seat. The Tory majority was about 700. One thing that trick did was to have that practice outlawed. In came the Registration of Political Parties Act 1998, which outlawed the use of names in elections designed to cause confusion with more established parties. The Greens would have a case unless this piece of legislation has not been superseded by Electoral Commission legislation.Marciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11303213282884555577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-33172870246270747502021-05-09T13:17:59.309+01:002021-05-09T13:17:59.309+01:00If the SNP refuses to act upon this latest mandate...If the SNP refuses to act upon this latest mandate for independence they will be correctly seen as traitors to Scotland. Rov Lainehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03888166997028606725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-62688016384097440452021-05-09T12:24:49.173+01:002021-05-09T12:24:49.173+01:00Do you remember the time, a good few years ago, wh...Do you remember the time, a good few years ago, when some joker registered himself as a "Literal Democrat" for a general election? It was somewhere in England, possibly Devon.<br /><br />He did no canvassing or leafleting, but he got a <i>substantial</i> number of votes. His surname, alphabetically, put him higher up the ballot than the actual LibDem candidate. The result was that the LibDems lost the seat to the Tories. The margin of the Tory victory was substantially smaller than the number of votes polled for the "Literal Democrat".<br /><br />The LibDems mounted some sort of legal challenge but were unsuccessful. So the EC has form on this one.Rolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17849975010197698907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-59996652294625778282021-05-09T12:05:17.092+01:002021-05-09T12:05:17.092+01:00https://www.thenational.scot/news/19289608.michael...https://www.thenational.scot/news/19289608.michael-gove-says-westminster-wont-take-scottish-government-court-indyref2/<br /><br /><b>Michael Gove says Westminster won't take Scottish Government to court over indyref2</b>Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-37346271703448825502021-05-09T11:51:23.296+01:002021-05-09T11:51:23.296+01:00I noticed that name on the list paper in NE Scotla...I noticed that name on the list paper in NE Scotland... Guessed it was a scam attempt. Shame the Electoral Commission is so unwilling to step in at this chicanery. Is it scared of antagonising the right-wing because of Tory threats to get rid of it?Jon Musgravehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06173147773539748324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-76859266011066254392021-05-09T11:35:20.610+01:002021-05-09T11:35:20.610+01:00Not easy to do when Nicola Sturgeon has no answer ...Not easy to do when Nicola Sturgeon has no answer to Andrew Marr's statement that 'England subsidises Scotland', and she maintains we will continue to use the £.<br />Indyfan57https://www.blogger.com/profile/09496565395670096955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-75561132008476965822021-05-09T11:33:18.701+01:002021-05-09T11:33:18.701+01:00‘ The SNP have really missed a trick there’
The I...‘ The SNP have really missed a trick there’<br /><br />The Independence cause missed a trick, the SNP leadership got exactly the type of MSP they wanted<br /><br />Tom would have made a great MSP &, as you point out this is the best way to get a toe in the door with the Northern Isles ...on the other hand... Douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00130326995948713627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-41518223735221813862021-05-09T10:53:33.906+01:002021-05-09T10:53:33.906+01:00I also noticed them and the fact that they appeare...I also noticed them and the fact that they appeared higher up on the ballot paper. It did make me stop and look more carefully, and I suspect that the vast majority of the votes that they received were intended for the Scottish Greens. Pretty disgusting really, and something the Electoral Commission really should take a look at.Stravaigerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954354184365312922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-46073526784613709862021-05-09T10:37:48.013+01:002021-05-09T10:37:48.013+01:00Brits on the Electoral Commission did this deliber...Brits on the Electoral Commission did this deliberately to hit the Green voteSteviehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18226832161404154663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-9201943147125750242021-05-09T10:31:26.185+01:002021-05-09T10:31:26.185+01:00Does anyone have a link to a full national vote sh...Does anyone have a link to a full national vote shares breakdown, including all the teeny parties? One normally is on wiki covering most, but not so far. There was at least one other pro-indy party in the form of Restore Scotland which got votes.<br /><br />As for the list... Aye, while the wife voted SNP, she did comment that she had to scan through an enormous ballot to find them, so I can see folk in a hurry getting misled by 'Independent Green Vote'.Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-72919017196333312322021-05-09T10:18:16.675+01:002021-05-09T10:18:16.675+01:00"If tactical voting had somehow produced 20 l..."If tactical voting had somehow produced 20 list MSPs would we be in any better a position this morning?"<br /><br />Yes, It would have been much *much* harder for unionists to punt the lines, as they are now energetically doing, that the majority isn't real.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15205187005199285645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-29858892063228577142021-05-09T09:05:39.304+01:002021-05-09T09:05:39.304+01:00As I scanned down the long list of parties in the ...As I scanned down the long list of parties in the NE regional paper I nearly put an X beside IGV as I saw 'Green' for the first time. I didn't though,and the fact it was Maggie Chapman standing for the Greens in the NE helped me choose correctly.<br /><br />On a different tack, for those that will no doubt be bemoaning the number of 'wasted' SNP list votes. Indy supporting parties gained 10 list MSPs, more than enough for a comfortable Indy supporting majority in Holyrood. If tactical voting had somehow produced 20 list MSPs would we be in any better a position this morning? We'd still have done it with 51% of the list vote and the MSM story would be all about how the list votes had been 'gamed'. <br /><br />What we need is to increase the support for Independence to reduce the vote for the Unionist parties and more importantly win the referendum that I hope we see before the next Hollywood election.Ravelinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05503643002323026453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-50991704655557667612021-05-09T08:41:56.875+01:002021-05-09T08:41:56.875+01:00Is there anyway that the votes could be reallocate...Is there anyway that the votes could be reallocated to the Scottish Greens?FitzyFanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10126123968970951894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-32335661076074964512021-05-09T03:16:02.210+01:002021-05-09T03:16:02.210+01:00I shared the following on Facebook before the elec...I shared the following on Facebook before the election, it really is shocking how they got away with it (they appeared higher up on the ballot paper as well )<br />https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1700437133477092&id=266256040228549Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17898831943195663196noreply@blogger.com