tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post3180819637544375713..comments2024-03-29T07:15:16.690+00:00Comments on SCOT goes POP!: Could commendable challenger Corbyn conceivably clinch the crown?James Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-54981882866476349572015-07-21T15:32:34.355+01:002015-07-21T15:32:34.355+01:00If Corbyn wins, the red will start to creep back i...If Corbyn wins, the red will start to creep back into the political map of Scotland but will all but disappear from most of England. Suits me.<br /><br />I wonder if Kezia Dugdale will just fall into line with a Corbyn leadership, happy to attack the SNP from the left for once? Or will she put up a defence of centrism and moderation within the Scottish wing of the party? <br /><br />One would think the first option would be the easier of the two and more instantly rewarding.<br /><br />I now believe Corbyn is a dead cert for labour leader. The Blairite old guard have threatened to topple him if it happens. It's an empty threat. Labour don't do regicide. Ever.<br /><br />2020 signed, sealed, delivered, in the bag for the tories.Aldohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03385445471036440872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-31077947629058370502015-07-16T17:23:15.171+01:002015-07-16T17:23:15.171+01:00I would love him to lead the labour party, at las...I would love him to lead the labour party, at last a 'signpost not a weathercock'. Real opposition is what we need. But I would worry that he would win back support for labour and away from SNP.Forgetmenot525https://www.blogger.com/profile/15771321877704271297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-40112824093814794292015-07-16T15:22:52.548+01:002015-07-16T15:22:52.548+01:00I suspect Corbyn is what Mhairi might define as a ...I suspect Corbyn is what Mhairi might define as a "signpost" candidate. I hope he wins. The Tories need a party in England with sufficient weight to give good opposition, and the working poor, unemployed and other disadvantaged groups need a party to represent them.Frann Leachnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-66424849065741017372015-07-16T14:37:01.970+01:002015-07-16T14:37:01.970+01:00I suspect it was more that he didn't expect to...I suspect it was more that he didn't <i>expect</i> to be elected rather than he didn't want to. Also it might well be that some of those MPs who nominated him might have been less keen if they thought he actually had a chance. Of course the disconect that implies between Labour MPs and those they represent is revealing.<br /><br />There was <a href="http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/07/jeremy-corbyn-course-come-top-labour-leadership-election" rel="nofollow">an interesting piece in the New Statesman yesterday</a> which claimed that two 'private polls' showed Corbyn was actually ahead on the first round. In particular those members who have joined during or since the election (maybe 50,000) plus Labour supporters who have also registered (perhaps 50,000 - <a href="http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jul/10/labour-leadership-election-unite-jeremy-corbyn-boost" rel="nofollow">30,000 from UNITE alone</a>) may be heavily biased towards Corbyn. Given that Labour's membership was static at around 190,000 for four years, these new people may well have an unpredictable effect on the result.Roger Mexicohttp://ukpollingreport.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-74778146307409629292015-07-16T13:47:05.036+01:002015-07-16T13:47:05.036+01:00Jinx.Jinx.keatonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-41082513276621825482015-07-16T13:46:38.502+01:002015-07-16T13:46:38.502+01:00Didn't David win the members' vote, though...Didn't David win the members' vote, though? Which this time is all there is.keatonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-54845113797155506422015-07-16T13:46:05.281+01:002015-07-16T13:46:05.281+01:00The party membership voted for David Miliband, not...The party membership voted for David Miliband, not Ed Miliband. That's the point I was making. They also voted for Jim Murphy.James Kellynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-29107847621876992302015-07-16T13:37:21.335+01:002015-07-16T13:37:21.335+01:00There is a way, but Labour no longer do grass root...There is a way, but Labour no longer do grass roots campaigns. They ain't social media savy either. Unless they get up to speed and learn how to outflank the tory press, the Labour left have no chance in England.Luiginoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-22825770703539665962015-07-16T13:13:56.680+01:002015-07-16T13:13:56.680+01:00Corbyn is the only candidate imo who has the abili...Corbyn is the only candidate imo who has the ability and political approach to rejuvenate the Labour movement in the UK, certainly in England, not sure what effect he would have on Scotland. The rest are really Tory lite/New Labour types. Kendall is going to get put out. Cooper and Burnham are uninspiring New Labour drones.muttley79noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-20700770072882906902015-07-16T12:17:09.792+01:002015-07-16T12:17:09.792+01:00Isn't Corbyn the only anti-austerity candidate...Isn't Corbyn the only anti-austerity candidate - he's certainly the only one who put in an appearance at the anti-austerity demos recently. And the fact that the MSM are all gunning for him suggests he might be the right man for the job.<br /><br />As for the Libdems, does it matter who's captain of the Titanic?Sandra Pattersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00619456126272467803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-75097550472783470702015-07-16T11:45:11.460+01:002015-07-16T11:45:11.460+01:00"Is it really likely that a party membership ..."Is it really likely that a party membership with a recent track record of voting for out-and-out Blairite leadership candidates would suddenly plump for an MP to the left of Michael Foot?"<br /><br />I'm not sure that's sound analysis. Surely Ed Milliband was seen as less Blairite than his brother?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-65039857894710727682015-07-16T10:44:01.443+01:002015-07-16T10:44:01.443+01:00Pre-nastiest budget to date from the Tories too, a...Pre-nastiest budget to date from the Tories too, as per Survation for the DM.Scottish_Skiernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-43990541198985956112015-07-16T09:46:57.099+01:002015-07-16T09:46:57.099+01:00New TNS Scottish poll - basically unchanged on las...New TNS Scottish poll - basically unchanged on last month. Usual long lead time for their poll (conducted June 19th - July 8th).<br /><br />Constituency<br /><br />SNP 60% = <br />Lab 20% +1<br />Con 14% -1<br />Lib 5% +2<br />Other 2% -1<br /><br />Region<br /><br />SNP 51% +1<br />Lab 21% +2<br />Con 13% -1<br />Grn 7% -3<br />Lib 5% =<br /><br />http://www.tns-bmrb.co.uk/news/snp-continues-to-dominate-in-scottish-election-pollingJamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-4450238602222935682015-07-16T09:19:25.076+01:002015-07-16T09:19:25.076+01:00Party insiders say Corbyn musnt win as the right w...Party insiders say Corbyn musnt win as the right wing English media will monster him. Well, they've been doing the same to the SNP for years, and it doesn't seem to have had much effect. Craig Pnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-36124082060368458472015-07-16T09:10:15.061+01:002015-07-16T09:10:15.061+01:00I'm not sure it would slow down things, Geoff....I'm not sure it would slow down things, Geoff. That horse has already bolted IMO. I do agree that it would be very good to have a Labour leader actually standing up for the least fortunate in society, something that no Labour leader has done for nigh 30 years.Luiginoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-83694401252359330012015-07-16T07:59:31.871+01:002015-07-16T07:59:31.871+01:00A new name for breakaway Blairites? Try the "...A new name for breakaway Blairites? Try the "Cabal of Unprincipled Nauseating Troughers" PartyFergusMachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01068159554801149940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-45904763659206250802015-07-16T02:33:03.058+01:002015-07-16T02:33:03.058+01:00I seem to recall Jeremy saying at the start of the...I seem to recall Jeremy saying at the start of the campaign he was in this to broaden the policy debate? Subtitle: I don't want to be leader. Has he really changed his mind?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-81216729991563914792015-07-16T02:26:51.092+01:002015-07-16T02:26:51.092+01:00England needs a Left Wing Party - Corbyn as leader...England needs a Left Wing Party - Corbyn as leader of Labour would be good for them.<br /><br />It would perhaps slow down the route to Independence for us here but I would gladly wait a wee bit longer if I thought the poor, unemployed & disabled actually had someone who was prepared to stand up for them.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08723713771162081318noreply@blogger.com