tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post3011698128662982467..comments2024-03-29T09:33:10.531+00:00Comments on SCOT goes POP!: Why should a citizen exercising his legal rights cause a "schism"?James Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-25739559768826690742017-08-03T14:33:52.773+01:002017-08-03T14:33:52.773+01:00Bang oan, yoan nail-heid. Ah, thoan Bickering Bush...Bang oan, yoan nail-heid. Ah, thoan Bickering Bush. Foonurtnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-38811305924420876232017-07-31T13:39:28.297+01:002017-07-31T13:39:28.297+01:00@maxstafford
I agree with you absolutely.
A lot ...@maxstafford<br />I agree with you absolutely. <br /><br />A lot of people are trying very hard to conflate Stu Campbell's tweets with the posts on Wings. The tone of both is quite different. I'm a follower of both so I can tell. <br /><br />For a start there is hardly any Bullseye on Wings website ;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-71370233889317847792017-07-30T17:29:10.490+01:002017-07-30T17:29:10.490+01:00Well said and well argued, James. I do not for a m...Well said and well argued, James. I do not for a moment think the Rev.'s comments were homophobic though they were undoubtedly cutting and hurtful. I have to confess, when I first read the remark, it made me chuckle.<br /><br />I just waded through, till I got tired and stopped reading, the most turgidly written "venerate me 'cos I'm gay" piece of hostile drivel against Campbell by a character called Juan Mac on a Thousand Flowers. Please, Mac, give us a break. Independence campaigners have suffered egregious insults over several years, nazis, primitives, blood & soil nats, thick heads etc.... This move by Dugdale to capitalise on Campbell's remarks, accuse him of homophobia, then repeat them in Parliament, trying to smear the SNP in the mix, is just low, dirty and vile, though perhaps not a surprise, given who she is. Let the courts decide. That's what they are there for.<br /><br />I would just ask the good Rev. : please think before you sting! We need you. Of course they detest you: you analyse Unionist lies and turpitude with laser-like precision and demolish these charlatans in the most glorious, heart-warming (for indy supporters) manner. No-one has ever to my knowledge faulted you on any fact, not once. You are a true jewel and we are damn glad you are there for us. So from time to time please just hold your tongue, ok?! Those witticisms are best left unprinted. We don't need another distraction like this. We need you for the main gamelawrenceabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16425746967578710370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-3448714917486097102017-07-30T08:34:25.324+01:002017-07-30T08:34:25.324+01:00#impotentrage #snivellingwretch#impotentrage #snivellingwretchAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-82771887072723422052017-07-30T08:33:07.276+01:002017-07-30T08:33:07.276+01:00Stench of this.Stench of this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-13766361223632243602017-07-30T08:32:18.706+01:002017-07-30T08:32:18.706+01:00State of this.State of this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-85702878978185899792017-07-30T07:16:22.627+01:002017-07-30T07:16:22.627+01:00That's my take. Yes, I'm sure Stu's co...That's my take. Yes, I'm sure Stu's comments were vicious and hurtful in the way you describe but I temper that with the knowledge that Mundell is vicious and hurtful towards Scotland and it's people every single day so people shouldn't shed too many tears when he gets a bit of Well-earned Karma. Sure, a cheap shot but this is a war against Scotland as far as I'm concerned and I have no qualms about the good guys taking the gloves off; in fact it's very long overdue.maxstaffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11533923281128766520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-3169040397771390542017-07-30T01:01:19.816+01:002017-07-30T01:01:19.816+01:00Impersonator, I would not be better together with ...Impersonator, I would not be better together with you... I would keep my troosers up...You nat si bum bhoys are the Unionist wet dream.GWC2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-76012371972480704462017-07-29T23:59:27.478+01:002017-07-29T23:59:27.478+01:00Better together you know it makes sense. WATP FTP ...Better together you know it makes sense. WATP FTP GSTQGWC2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-21129648900075164002017-07-29T20:16:01.744+01:002017-07-29T20:16:01.744+01:00Right wing nat sis like you would know Tories, sim...Right wing nat sis like you would know Tories, simmit and drawers...You nat sis make Thatcher look like an old leftie grandmother. The streets of Glasgow were never like they are today with beggers on every corner and under the Nat si watch...You are a detestable bunch of scum, I have stood on shite but nothing like you lot.GWC2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-65530560094066222002017-07-29T18:58:52.681+01:002017-07-29T18:58:52.681+01:00Good points never thought of it that way.Good points never thought of it that way.Charles O'Brien.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10778040983298966024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-82092669603513088882017-07-29T18:57:14.252+01:002017-07-29T18:57:14.252+01:00Dugdale is full of the "poor me,everybody hat...Dugdale is full of the "poor me,everybody hates me,because I'm a Tory or got dark hair"or some other such nonsense.She seems to have saw an easy way to help her fellow Tory who is big enough and ugly enough to stand up for himself,to me proof that she is a Tory.Charles O'Brien.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10778040983298966024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-63187321079836852782017-07-29T18:15:49.961+01:002017-07-29T18:15:49.961+01:00He should do it without further ado and give us a ...He should do it without further ado and give us a good story to pass the time while you nat sis losers slit your wrists.GWC2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-14361081650262743432017-07-29T17:46:30.183+01:002017-07-29T17:46:30.183+01:00Do you dress up in girlies clothing or has such cl...Do you dress up in girlies clothing or has such clothing been declared unisex!GWC2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-55486137420673150162017-07-29T17:38:12.728+01:002017-07-29T17:38:12.728+01:00Dugdale is arrogant and ignorant. She defamed Stu ...Dugdale is arrogant and ignorant. She defamed Stu in the Daily Record. Stu's lawyers wrote to Dugdale, requesting £10,000 damages. <br /><br />Instead of seeking legal advice, this apparently incensed Dugdale, who seems to think, as a Yoon politician that she is above the law. She also stupidly thought the MSM and BBC would protect her.<br /><br />S not only ignored the letter, she and compounded her folly by repeating the defamation in Holyrood at First Minister's Questions!<br /><br />The three questions she is permitted to hold the SNP to account,she squandered on telling the world about the said lawyers' letter and how dreadful it was that she had been 'bullied' in this manner. It begs the question, if she can't stand the cut and thrust of politics she should perhaps think about a different career! <br /><br />She, bizarrely and ludicrously, labelled, in the chamber, Stu as Sturgeon's 'colleague' when he has never voted or been a member of the SNP party. Stu previously voted Libdem. Dugdale was basically accusing the SNP of promoting alleged homophobia along with Stu!<br /> <br />The MSM and Yoon politicians, like Dugdale, are overcome with quite made jealousy of Wings. They can all only dream of the popularity, loyalty and support which Wings has very much earned, single handedly, in Scotland. <br /><br />So the MSM and the Yoon politicians deliberately malign and denigrate Stu at every turn. They demonised Salmond during Indyref1 and they are doing it to Sturgeon again now, day in day out. <br /><br />But the simple fact which Dugdale has missed is that Stu's not standing for election so the Yoons and MSM can't hurt him. <br /><br />That really really annoys them; they have absolutely no power over Stu at all. Indeed every time they malign him, it has the opposite effect and Stu's ratings and following increases. <br /><br />Stu dances rings around them all. They have not been able to lay a glove on him but that does not stop them from trying. The MSM plays the Sheriff of Nottingham to Stu's Robin Hood, or even, dare say it, they play Longshanks to Stu's William Wallace. Stu is the guerilla fighter, waging a war of ambush, sabotage, raids, hit-and-run tactics, and mobility of mind against a much larger and less-mobile traditional MSM. Stu is our modern day folk lore hero. That drives Dugdale and the BBC and the daily Record etc. etc. absolutely bat shit crazy. The more they try to stamp him out, the more he jumps back up.<br /><br />I take my hat off to Stu for his forensic mind which exposes the sheer depth of Yoon lies, day in day out. Hundreds of thousands of Scots read Wings regularly. Just like the SNP, Wings presents a clear and present danger to the British State and they have declared war on Stu's Wings site. They want rid of Wings before Indyref2 is called, that's self-evident. This is a deliberate assault on Wings by the establishment of which Dugdale is a zealot. She's so mad she urged her own party members to vote Tory. Her councillors united with the Tories to form councils the length of breadth of Scotland. The Scots yoons are Britnat zealots. They would rather destroy Scotland than see us indy. They will deploy a scorched earth policy to keep us enthralled to the Union. WE cannot be seen to be a successful part of the UK as this might make us think we can be indy. Project Fear never ended and Dugdale's stunt has boomeranged into defamation. <br /><br />But the Yoons and Dugdale forgot that Stu is not a political party, he's an individual and he has rights as an individual. He's going to see Dugdale in court and it is right of Stu to take this stand agaisnt the Yoon smears as if we thought Project Fear Mark I was bad, just wait for the flood gates to open on Project Fear Mark II.<br /><br />Thew other point I'd like to make is that before embarking on the case, Stu held a poll asking his supporters if he should sue Dugdale and 70% said 'go ahead'! Billy Boneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07832309428693497575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-23505252942905001812017-07-29T17:31:08.180+01:002017-07-29T17:31:08.180+01:00What exactly was the statement made by Dugdale?What exactly was the statement made by Dugdale?Derek Rogershttp://scotlandisdifferent.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-1776578471721621322017-07-29T14:51:03.524+01:002017-07-29T14:51:03.524+01:00What has been totally lost in all this is the impl...What has been totally lost in all this is the implied comment that Mundell Minor is an appalling public speaker and further that his election to public office is nepotism writ large.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-42098940895077395922017-07-29T13:58:40.707+01:002017-07-29T13:58:40.707+01:00Do not agree with that reading of the case. The st...Do not agree with that reading of the case. The statement makes the point that if Mundell Snr had embraced his sexuality sooner then Mundell Jnr more than likely would not have come into existence. That is just a statement of fact as two gay men can not produce a child if they are together / married. Hurtful yes but it does not say anything about the speaker's views on homosexuality and that is the key point.<br /><br />In addition:<br /><br />"In Scots Law, an offending statement may not necessarily be defamatory as it may fall into another category of hurtful words, such as being a malicious falsehood or a slander of title. To be defamatory a statement must be false and must lower the defamed in the estimation of right thinking members of society. A court will ask itself what that standard is today as it is within this context that the court will look at the allegedly offending statement. "<br /> <br />As such I believe Wings has a case. The statement made by Dugdale can be argued to be false and it is indeed the case that in this society that being accused of being homophobic does damage ones reputation.<br /><br />Iain Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12405579845577478745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-28590244563844571482017-07-29T13:47:08.608+01:002017-07-29T13:47:08.608+01:00establishment, not eat...but almost the same!establishment, not eat...but almost the same!fbfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00787435785104514650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-64801435365934784372017-07-29T13:45:04.991+01:002017-07-29T13:45:04.991+01:00Certainly seems to be a great distraction to whate...Certainly seems to be a great distraction to whatever the britnats are actually doing or not doing to ensure that Scotland is not 'hardest hit' by Brexit. It will be 'hardest hit' and so to have some way of taking peoples' minds off that, is essential. For all you know these twitter trolls could be establishment plants, nothing would surprise. <br /><br />The britnats hate the fact that pro independence blogs/news/analysis even exists online. <br />They will do anything to try to stop it, and as that is proving impossible, they will demonise, divide and distract.<br /><br />Keep up the good work James. <br /><br />Dugdale was way out of order in her slandering of Stuart and her reason was wholly political. She was attempting to damage anyone associated with WoS, the wider YES campaign and the SNP all at the same time. To take it as far as she did, was a disgrace. She deserves to pay the price in court, whether she will is another thing. She will be protected by the eatablishment, even though she is small fry politically. <br />Hetty.fbfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00787435785104514650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-36766776302973048542017-07-29T13:22:12.501+01:002017-07-29T13:22:12.501+01:00Wings didn't insult David Mundell, on this occ...Wings didn't insult David Mundell, on this occasion, but Oliver Mundell. As such, there is no insult on the grounds of anyone's sexuality, regardless of sexuality being mentioned.Dislogicalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12725230847008866276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-3392184761179518932017-07-29T13:19:39.610+01:002017-07-29T13:19:39.610+01:00Do the radical left not realise that if they were ...Do the radical left not realise that if they were more inclusive then people may actually vote for them?<br />PS contributed to Stuart's fundraiser as well as WGD and IScot fundraisers.<br />Better that than paying the BBC tax.Fairlieredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10560803757414908104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-70873002105383842972017-07-29T13:08:18.156+01:002017-07-29T13:08:18.156+01:00I think the remark is homophobic.
Let's assum...I think the remark is homophobic.<br /><br />Let's assume the law says that you can't insult people *on the grounds* of their gender, race, religion. So if, of well-known black person X, I say, "X is a total loss because, on Brexit, nobody can see where he stands", that doesn't break the law (I haven't insulted him on the grounds of his race). But if I say, "X is a total loss because, when the negotiators are gathered in a darkened room, nobody can see where he stands," then his being black is a material part of my insult, so I've broken the law.<br /><br />Wings insulted Fluffy on the grounds that his dad should have acted on his homosexuality earlier, and the homosexuality is therefore a material part of the insult. So although I hope Wings wins, and I've contributed to his fundraiser, I hope he has a Plan B.Derek Rogershttp://scotlandisdifferent.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-32790811883903198892017-07-29T01:41:39.735+01:002017-07-29T01:41:39.735+01:00I have experienced that when the trolling was at i...I have experienced that when the trolling was at its worst about the US presidential election. Not fun at all. J. R. Tomlinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01109874615059334200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-74133073859008421302017-07-29T00:41:53.283+01:002017-07-29T00:41:53.283+01:00Well, it's certainly not always like that. I&...Well, it's certainly not always like that. I've had plenty of unpleasant experiences on social media (including some that were far worse than last night), but I've never before encountered what appeared to be a premeditated, targeted trolling operation from several people who I'd never previously heard of.James Kellynoreply@blogger.com