In her speech today, Theresa May announced the following -
* The UK will leave the Single Market.
* The UK will leave the Customs Union (giving us a lesser status than Turkey).
* The jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice will no longer extend to the UK.
* The UK will not retain "partial membership" of the European Union.
* The UK will not accept anything that leaves it "half in, half out".
* The UK will not seek to "adopt a model already enjoyed by other countries" (ie. the Norway or Swiss models that are synonymous with a soft Brexit).
* The UK will not seek to retain "bits of EU membership" after Brexit.
Labour's mind-boggling response to that manifesto was "it is good that she has ruled that hard Brexit out at this stage". Which begs the obvious question - what exactly would qualify as hard Brexit in Labour's eyes? What would make them acknowledge that this is a plan that needs to be fought, rather than embraced or finessed? I'm beginning to think only a foreign policy akin to that of North Sentinel Island (breaking off all contact with the outside world and throwing spears at any boat or plane that approaches) would do the trick.
We've also had Labour MP, Ian "Stickers" Murray, whining that the SNP is loudly against the Theresa May 12 point suicide pact. I know he represents Grange and Morningside, but when exactly did he join the official Conservatives?
ReplyDeleteYou Nat sis are fooked now. Shiting yerself tae go fur a referendum and knowing the Scots will not crawl tae Herman Frog and Co. Over tae you now Fash bottle merchants. Whit will ye dae noo besides the useless verbal diahorea.
Delete"Whit a bunch of pessimist moaners you Jocks are."
Deletewhat is the exact state of the polls regarding yes? are there any which have a large enough sample, include 16 yos, and represent the demographics of scotland?
ReplyDeleteif not, what would you say your gut feeling is the support for yes?
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The last one was conducted in the first half of December -
Deletehttp://scotgoespop.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/have-even-biased-bmg-just-reported.html
did you ever find out what the question asked in this "independence" poll was?
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Yes, they used the standard question this time, so it was a legitimate independence poll. It took a couple of days for that to become clear.
Deleteso your hyper link was to..... a nothing article
Deleteif we are to call indyref2 we need to know where we stand, even a rough idea would be good. we dont have it and we dont know, none of our supporters believe anything in the uk media.
i ask you again james, crowd fund a poll, a poll we can have faith in, just so as we know where we stand???
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Oh, for pity's sake, you asked me what the state of the polls was, so not unreasonably I directed you to the most recent one.
DeleteOn the subject of crowdfunding a poll, I can only repeat what I said to you the last time you asked me to do that -
"Every time I've run a fundraiser, I've always said that if there are significant excess funds by the end of it, I would consider using that money to commission a poll. All of the fundraisers so far have met their target, but they haven't exceeded the target by enough to make the idea of a poll realistic.
The money from the most recent fundraiser (the 2015 one) has completely run out now, so that's why I've been re-promoting it over the last couple of weeks in case anyone wants to make an additional donation. Over that period, more than £500 has been raised, which I'm incredibly grateful for, but obviously that kind of money will only stretch so far, and I'm using it for its primary purpose. In the unlikely event that there's an enormous influx of donations at some point, I'm still open to the idea of a poll. But I wouldn't hold your breath - we've got to be realistic about what crowdfunding can achieve. Stuart Campbell has raised enough for a few polls, but he has a significantly bigger readership."
point taken james
DeleteThe usual tory twits are heaping praise on May's weakness and capitulation to the Bill Cash/kipper wing of her party with almost as much brittle and desperate enthusiasm as they displayed for Cameron when he announced the calamitous EU referendum itself.
ReplyDeleteSave for the times when Cameron flounced in the EU or announced his other 'brave' stances against the EU on renegotiation. That was pretty much 'peak twit' as well.
They are incapable of learning a thing.
LOL
Who will May send on a trade mission to North Sentinel Island?
ReplyDeleteIt'll have to be Liam Fox, I feel.
DeleteBut is Adam Werritty free to 'accompany' him? :o)
DeleteThank goodness the tory party and May didn't leave three fuckwits in charge of the actual Brexit process. Fractious, ambitious, dipshits who can barely stand to be in the same room as each other. Unless it's in a photo op for possible future tory leaders. ;o)
Hello Mick
DeleteThe undecideds and the bottlers will put it in the back of the net for 'remain'. I'm sure Cameron also has a few tricks up his sleeve to deploy in the dying days of the campaign."
DeleteAldo
According to the Nat si National Knickerless wants to know what kind of country we want to live in. Perhaps another subsidy from the taxpayer will give her the answer she wants to hear.
ReplyDeleteThe troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor
DeletePervert who goes on aboot death and is a liar. Lost the argument and makes repeated same post while bashing his meat. Get help before you go blind Nat si bhoy.
Delete"Whit a bunch of pessimist moaners you Jocks are."
DeleteGlasgow Working Class, you shouldn't use the word 'jock' to describe the Scots. A jock is a physically fit athletic person, usually physically attractive. This does not describe most Scots, who tend to be morbidly obese, dangerously unfit and nicotine stained.
DeleteI consider myself physically attractive although I get along with my sticks but fall out with them on occasion. Or over!
DeleteI am still waiting for those who support leaving the EU single market to explain the benefits of so doing.
ReplyDeleteAll we continue to hear is immigration controls,immigration controls,immigration controls which was simply a duplicitous tactic used to secure the exit vote by unscrupulous Tory politicians.
The Tories real intent was never much to do with immigration but their desire to turn the UK into a banana state free from regulation,human rights,living wages and anything else which "hinders" business.
My fellow Scots,that is where we are going.
"I am still waiting for those who support leaving the EU single market to explain the benefits of so doing."
DeleteYou need a conviction politician for that, like...
"I think the economic arguments are clear. I think being part of a 500-million trading bloc is significant for us. I think, as I was saying to you a little earlier, that one of the issues is that a lot of people will invest here in the UK because it is the UK in Europe. If we were not in Europe, I think there would be firms and companies who would be looking to say, do they need to develop a mainland Europe presence rather than a UK presence? So I think there are definite benefits for us in economic terms"
- Theresa May
The trading world goes beyond what is called the EU. We can get rid of useless politicians and their gravy train. Trade can be done with individual countries as has happened over centuries. We do not need an elite dictatorial body who just need to be obeyed. This EU will collapse the only annoying thing is the bastards have set up their own inflated pension rights. Paid for by the working class.
DeleteBrexit 'will put 75% of workers at risk of pension shortfall'
DeletePeople will have to save more for pensions to have income they were on course for before Britain voted out, say City experts
The benefits of leaving the EU are that we make our own laws, control our own borders and can cut deals with nations all over the world - bilateral agreements that can be signed in months, not years or decades. We will still trade with the EU but under WTO rules until a free trade deal can be struck with them. That means an EU product on a British shelf that used to cost 10 pounds might cost 11 pounds instead, for a few years - and the same over there in relation to our products. Big deal. We get our country back and the chance to genuinely turn this place into boomtown as it becomes a global trading hub. The only people with a gripe over this are separatists and politically correct morons.
Delete"The undecideds and the bottlers will put it in the back of the net for 'remain'. I'm sure Cameron also has a few tricks up his sleeve to deploy in the dying days of the campaign."
DeleteAldo
There aren't any predictions in there Mick. Just statements of fact, reason and possibilities. No predictions. Learn how to critically analyse properly, autism boy.
DeleteThere aren't any predictions in there
Deletewill put it
for 'remain'
I'm sure Cameron also has
to deploy
in the dying days of the campaign.
No predictions. Learn how to critically analyse properly, autism boy.
PMSL!!
what a galactic class twat you are
go back to stormfront lite and sneer at the disabled and foreigners some more, you bottom feeding tabloid wretch
it really is all you're fit for
Hi aspergers boy. You need to read the thread properly. We are both making reference to my previous post, you utter utter loser.
Delete"That means an EU product on a British shelf that used to cost 10 pounds might cost 11 pounds instead, for a few years - and the same over there in relation to our products. Big deal."
DeleteActually it is. A 10% price hike is an absolute killer. Some people will still go with the product, but some will not. And where products are comparable, consumers will pocket the 10% by going with the alternative. In many service branches (like branches) this could see British institutions priced out of the market, before we even talk about additional permit costs to take part in EU markets.
And if we offset any such losses by striking free trade deals with other nations, most notably America?
DeleteConservative M.P. Ms Morgan warned that the Government could not simply ignore its promises to the electorate.
Delete“The Conservative party manifesto, on which we were elected only 17 months ago, has a very clear statement in it about ‘we say yes to the single market’ and it talks about ‘we will safeguard British interests in the single market’,” she told Sky News.
“That’s something the Government cannot ignore, the Conservative party, my Conservative colleagues cannot ignore we stood on a manifesto saying that."
"There aren't any predictions in there Mick. Just statements of fact, reason and possibilities. No predictions. Learn how to critically analyse properly, autism boy."
DeleteI think that post was cited not because you had made another stupid prediction, but because you're suddenly claiming to believe that Brexit is great news, when prior to this you supported a Remain result because it would "strengthen the UK union".
I supported remain for a while and then switched my position to leave - which I voted for - after the pro remain parties lost the argument so badly and after a convincing case was put to me that Scottish Nationalism would be weakened by brexit in the longer term. Oh I'm sure a remain vote would have shut the SNP up for a short while but other 'triggers' would have been identified before long and we'd be back to square one. Now we have new, large and strong barriers to an independent Scotland as a result of Brexit - and the SNP backed into a corner, under pressure to fight a war they aren't ready for. As a unionist, I'm content with the situation.
Delete"This does not describe most Scots, who tend to be morbidly obese, dangerously unfit and nicotine stained."
DeleteThe troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor
ReplyDeletePervert and liar. Hope the local community have an eye on you.
DeleteDo fuck off you twatty little tory shitlicker.
DeleteThe only liar and pervert here is you as can be seen from your own spittle-flecked posts on any given day of the week.
"I am still waiting for those who support leaving the EU single market to explain the benefits of so doing."
ReplyDeleteYou need a conviction politician for that, like...
"I think the economic arguments are clear. I think being part of a 500-million trading bloc is significant for us. I think, as I was saying to you a little earlier, that one of the issues is that a lot of people will invest here in the UK because it is the UK in Europe. If we were not in Europe, I think there would be firms and companies who would be looking to say, do they need to develop a mainland Europe presence rather than a UK presence? So I think there are definite benefits for us in economic terms"
- Theresa May
Gie up and post in your own name. You are a loser like the Nat si fash movement which is moving slowly towards oblivion.
DeleteYou have lost and I do not feel sorry for you, you are anti English Nat si tosspots.
Up yer kilts Joke's.
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Delete"I am still waiting for those who support leaving the EU single market to explain the benefits of so doing."
ReplyDeleteYou need a conviction politician for that, like...
"I think the economic arguments are clear. I think being part of a 500-million trading bloc is significant for us. I think, as I was saying to you a little earlier, that one of the issues is that a lot of people will invest here in the UK because it is the UK in Europe. If we were not in Europe, I think there would be firms and companies who would be looking to say, do they need to develop a mainland Europe presence rather than a UK presence? So I think there are definite benefits for us in economic terms"
- Theresa May
You will be waiting around fur yer funeral Nat si and we we will have left the EU.
DeleteEat your cereal.
DeleteHootsman two hunner years auld and the Jock Nat sis still talking shite. Shitin themselves fae haudin a referendum efter bummin aboot it fur decades. Pure wee shitebags ra Nat sis.
ReplyDeleteThe Scotsman website comment sections are a right laugh if you enjoy seeing the blue facepainters getting slapped aboot and put in their place.
DeleteThe troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor
DeletePervert.
DeleteThe troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor
Delete"I think the economic arguments are clear. I think being part of a 500-million trading bloc is significant for us. I think, as I was saying to you a little earlier, that one of the issues is that a lot of people will invest here in the UK because it is the UK in Europe. If we were not in Europe, I think there would be firms and companies who would be looking to say, do they need to develop a mainland Europe presence rather than a UK presence? So I think there are definite benefits for us in economic terms"
ReplyDelete- Theresa May
Ok. So if she said that, why is she pushing for a hard brexit?
DeleteWhy? She is quite clearly as weak and craven as Cameron and Major were.
DeleteUtterly terrified of the rump of hard-right Brexiteers and out and out kippers inside the tory party that could force an election and her out of a job.
Remember, May hasn't even been elected leader by the tory party's own members, never mind the electorate at large.
She doesn't have a mandate for anything since the farcical backstabbing joke of 'last idiot standing' that was the tory leadership contest doesn't really constitute as meaningful exercise in democratic consent.
The kippers and Farage now basically control the tory party and it's every move. What used to be laughable kipper dogma is now official conservative party policy.
Farage didn't even need to win a seat of his own to do it.
He just needed a succession of weak and out of touch tory leaders and the kind of supine career politicians who enabled them and their calamitous stupidity.
Sad Nat sis cannot comment using own nom de plume. Unders orders fae Nat si HQ.
ReplyDeleteUp yer kilts fash bhoys.
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DeleteYour continual comment is that of the defeated. You do not have anything to contribute in political argument. You are indeed a sick Jock
DeleteNatzi. Up yer kilt fascist and yer tartan lederhosen.
The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor
DeleteStrugglin on the shitbox saying the referendum was very likely and is now even more likely.
ReplyDeleteHyslop saying Scotland can still stay in single market and UK and enjoy 'benefits' of both. Haha!
Bloody hilarious.
Sweaty upper lip Hyslop. Job created scheme for her. Nice soft hands and never done a days work in her life. Handing out food parcels to the Scots wearing gloves.
DeleteThe troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor
DeleteWee Knickerless wet drawers now in the wilderness just collecting her salary. A want a referendum, naw haud oan a minute only kiddin cancel that, is ma pension in ra bank. Ra smell a urine around ra Nat sis is pungent.
ReplyDeleteThe troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor
DeleteAngus B MacNeil MP @AngusMacNeilSNP 1 hour ago
ReplyDeleteEU states that don't use the Euro -Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Rep, Denmark, Hungary,Poland, Romania, Sweden, & UK #ForThoseWhoTellScotsWrongly
The Jocks are oot of the EU. Just move on Jocks. No more moanin just work for a livvin.
ReplyDeleteVote Labour get rid of the Nat si liars who conned you.
"This does not describe most Scots, who tend to be morbidly obese, dangerously unfit and nicotine stained."
DeleteConservative M.P. Ms Morgan warned that the Government could not simply ignore its promises to the electorate.
ReplyDelete“The Conservative party manifesto, on which we were elected only 17 months ago, has a very clear statement in it about ‘we say yes to the single market’ and it talks about ‘we will safeguard British interests in the single market’,” she told Sky News.
“That’s something the Government cannot ignore, the Conservative party, my Conservative colleagues cannot ignore we stood on a manifesto saying that."
MP's talk the talk and it is forgotten soon. Knickerless has been strutting around for six months threatening and bumpin her gums about brexit. But actually she knows where her bread is buttered and that is in the Union. Scotland does far more trade with the English than the EU. It would not be cost effective to trade with the EU without access to the English road/rail network and Chanel Tunnel.
DeleteIt is time you Nat si English haters got a bit more pragmatic.
The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor
DeleteDearie me. The britnats on here are getting really really desperate. A good sign.
ReplyDeleteYep. Tempers are getting frayed already. (Opens popcorn and settles in).
DeleteYou're going to enjoy popcorn while watching your leader flail around and stutter and make empty threats while her red lines are demolished? Would a half bottle of whisky not be more appropriate?
Delete"This does not describe most Scots, who tend to be morbidly obese, dangerously unfit and nicotine stained."
DeleteCorrect. Quite proud of that quote actually, rain man.
DeleteI see Strugglin still hasn't committed to a referendum. A Sky Data poll also shows support for hard brexit v soft brexit at 49% vs 44% respectively, in Scotland.
ReplyDeleteThings aren't going to plan for the septic separatists.
"This does not describe most Scots, who tend to be morbidly obese, dangerously unfit and nicotine stained."
DeleteA fairly accurate description I thought. I wonder how much of our whopping 15 billion deficit is due to drug / booze / fags / junk food / poor lifestyle?
DeleteA Daily Mail simpleton who sneers at scots, foreigners and the disabled is a completely accurate description of far-right scum like you.
DeleteYou could always piss off back to stormfront lite you bigoted piece of shit.
Touched a nerve did I? Well, I couldn't care less if the truth offends. We have a bad lifestyle and bad attitude in Scotland - and I'm allowed to say that because I am a Scot, unfortunately.
DeleteFeel the CRIIIINGE
DeleteROFL!!
"The undecideds and the bottlers will put it in the back of the net for 'remain'. I'm sure Cameron also has a few tricks up his sleeve to deploy in the dying days of the campaign."
DeleteAldo
Again, just stating the truth. If you cringe because of that then that's your problem.
DeleteDon't think the EU ref quote is really relevant here, rain man.
Delete"I am a Scot, unfortunately."
DeleteAldo
Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage Jan 17
ReplyDeleteI can hardly believe that the PM is now using the phrases and words that I've been mocked for using for years. Real progress.
Aldo, how dare you tell the truth about obese greasy Scotch pie eating, smokers, druggies and bozzers etc and the hard workers picking up the NHS TAB to allow them to indulge in such beastiality. No wonder the English are asking to vote in a Scottish referendum.
ReplyDeleteimpotent tory twat
DeleteI am giving you a winning formula, give the English the vote.
DeleteWhat's up with the bad mouth trolls is that we only have to win once. Gives you a warm kind of feeling to know that they are totally out of their depth.
ReplyDeleteThat is not true. The Scottish parliament can call a further referendum if the people vote for a party that wants to reverse previous Nat si stupidity.
DeleteAbsolute bloody state of this.
DeleteState of these Yoons. It's like Spanner's Twitter feed, only with no celebrity presence.
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