tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post8326400425162250614..comments2024-03-28T11:08:58.601+00:00Comments on SCOT goes POP!: How did it ever come to this? Iain Macwhirter is now at one with Tory right-wingers in calling for a premature lifting of the lockdown to allow a mass epidemic - and he dismisses the resulting biblical death toll as a "marginal risk"James Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comBlogger129125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-7881198315905124462020-04-30T18:28:44.895+01:002020-04-30T18:28:44.895+01:00I’m getting slightly excited by the slightly diffe...I’m getting slightly excited by the slightly differing noises from Westminster and Holyrood. <br />Donald McGregorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01864655355153560863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-61152492505813361802020-04-30T13:54:04.890+01:002020-04-30T13:54:04.890+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Bellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06190656631060298475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-37508626432068446302020-04-30T11:27:24.060+01:002020-04-30T11:27:24.060+01:00The usual incoherent gibberish from Covidia, then....The usual incoherent gibberish from Covidia, then.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-60603436318967136482020-04-29T18:31:16.515+01:002020-04-29T18:31:16.515+01:00The Norway approach the Irish approach the Iceland...The Norway approach the Irish approach the Iceland approach the EU approach. I am getting hiccups from your nonsense and laughter. GWCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-2482377778968770232020-04-29T12:55:29.887+01:002020-04-29T12:55:29.887+01:00Based on the latest NRS data.
https://twitter.com...Based on the latest NRS data.<br /><br />https://twitter.com/EdConwaySky/status/1255459965826891779<br />Ed Conway<br />@EdConwaySky<br /><i>Some tentatively encouraging news from Scotland where weekly “excess deaths” now seem to have peaked. Note these figs are for week 17. We get England/Wales figs for wk17 next Tues </i><br /><br />Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-6803711427174088762020-04-29T12:45:24.136+01:002020-04-29T12:45:24.136+01:00Or how about independence so we can copy Norway...Or how about independence so we can copy Norway's approach?Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-85253049347521998822020-04-29T10:50:03.101+01:002020-04-29T10:50:03.101+01:00Stench of this.Stench of this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-4806195496695446022020-04-29T10:26:33.371+01:002020-04-29T10:26:33.371+01:00Ok, how about giving Scotland the power to close /...Ok, how about giving Scotland the power to close / control it's borders, so preventing reinfection from England, which is the worst affected country in Europe? This is something all countries are doing, including within the EU. It is even happening within countries, such as in Australia and the USA between states, where interstate borders are being closes as appropriate. <br /><br />As for 'hating the English'. It seems to me the English/Brits are the most insecure people on the planet. Imagine constantly fretting that other people hate you simply because they might wish to do things a different way. It's verging on paranoia and they should probably seek medical treatment.<br /><br />It's also pathetic too. 'Oh, boo hoo, we English are so hard done by. We can't get through a day without freaking out about how much we think the Scots / French / Germans / Australians... hate us!'. FFS. Get over it.Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-38107667133131424332020-04-29T08:47:02.775+01:002020-04-29T08:47:02.775+01:00GWC - Even if that was true it would be beetter th...GWC - Even if that was true it would be beetter than being an ignorant sack of poison like you.<br /><br />The constructive alternatives to uk government blundering have been listed many many times but for you and any other cavernously stupid boot lickers out there just a few are:<br />Proper ppe for health and care workers;<br />Testing, tracking, isolating;<br />Testing and quarantine at Heathrow etc.<br />Ignoring the calls of the rich greedy and safely tucked away to lift restrictions and subsidise their robbery of the rest of us with bail out;<br />Drop you off at Rockall and forget it happened.Alt Cluthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13482350112125105748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-22232416345107751102020-04-28T23:39:27.482+01:002020-04-28T23:39:27.482+01:00You and Dunn are empty bawgags. You and Dunn are empty bawgags. GWCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-25836919384148198992020-04-28T22:57:32.074+01:002020-04-28T22:57:32.074+01:00Tom Newton Dunn editor of the Sun makes a derogato...Tom Newton Dunn editor of the Sun makes a derogatory Tweet about Scotlands First Minister Nicola Sturgeon and the whole of England piles on and tells him to shut the F up<br /><br />Now what Tom Newton Dunn had hoped for or expected in his attack on the FM as England demands Nicola Sturgeon replace Doris Johnson<br /><br />Remember when they thought they used to hate her following Englands print media pile on of most dangerous woman and all that rubbish <br /><br />Now they know exactly who Nicola Sturgeon is and they want her to lead their country too, nice of them, but NawAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-33117541792973288342020-04-28T22:43:58.549+01:002020-04-28T22:43:58.549+01:00Naw but be constructive and if you have any valid ...Naw but be constructive and if you have any valid proven suggestions that could save lives then say it. Playing your silly Nat si political games is not helpful. Your great leader Knickerless just wants to save lives and she should be commended for that and for not listening to idiots that hate the English. GWCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-72231040238153352292020-04-28T21:51:35.351+01:002020-04-28T21:51:35.351+01:00You suggest I turn a blind eye?You suggest I turn a blind eye?Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-23622892523921983742020-04-28T21:37:31.363+01:002020-04-28T21:37:31.363+01:00Hey Skier you are definately the Grimm Reeper. Dea...Hey Skier you are definately the Grimm Reeper. Death is your hobby. Just reading Nat si comments in the Herald. You can be satisfied you are not the only Nas si nutter on show. GWCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-69356939221265907342020-04-28T18:01:02.510+01:002020-04-28T18:01:02.510+01:00Vitamin D appears to be important and is related t...Vitamin D appears to be important and is related to exposure to sunlight (UV). This probably explains the seasonality of flu and corona viruses. <br /><br />https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2020/04/28/covid-update-focus-on-vitamin-d/<br />Vronskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17797785918817375436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-13953766648110469712020-04-28T17:37:07.882+01:002020-04-28T17:37:07.882+01:00The Lockdown happened sooner in Wales, Scotland an...The Lockdown happened sooner in Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, which were up to two weeks or at least a few days behind London and the West Midlands, where most of the deaths occurred and a few days is a very longtime in the world of corona.<br />Alba for Independencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02976605539450227099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-70132168475786926392020-04-28T17:20:54.796+01:002020-04-28T17:20:54.796+01:00Covidia's doing sterling work for the independ...Covidia's doing sterling work for the independence movement. Long may it continue. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-89453882076788049892020-04-28T16:55:35.256+01:002020-04-28T16:55:35.256+01:00Holy shit. I see what you mean.
https://twitter.c...Holy shit. I see what you mean.<br /><br />https://twitter.com/EdConwaySky/status/1255148119416700929/photo/1<br /><br />Thanks for the info. Graphs are interesting.Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-41528104315794325582020-04-28T16:43:47.033+01:002020-04-28T16:43:47.033+01:00Try to find EdConwaySky's z-value graphs he...Try to find EdConwaySky's z-value graphs he's posting on Twitter.<br /><br />The z-value shows the deviation from the normal distribution of, in this case, all recorded deaths over a particular time period. So it takes into account all the factors such a population size/density.<br /><br />If his data is correct, then something utterly disasterous has happened in England. It's absolutely shocking.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-78765751124957800992020-04-28T15:58:00.188+01:002020-04-28T15:58:00.188+01:00Covidia is a Domestos goddess.Covidia is a Domestos goddess.Wick Dodnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-34568710248910656362020-04-28T15:01:33.094+01:002020-04-28T15:01:33.094+01:00Yes, it started herd immunity, then stopped when t...Yes, it started herd immunity, then stopped when there was public outcry and scientists said this would kill hundreds of thousands.<br /><br />As a result, the lockdown was too late and the UK now has the highest death rate in Europe. Worse than both Italy and Spain, even though it had far greater warning than these two.<br /><br />Going for herd immunity in the first place might have been incompetence, but I watched Boris explain the plan with enthusiasm on the TV. He even talked of 'taking it on the chin'. So it seemed planned.Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-50248349140042648892020-04-28T14:47:34.010+01:002020-04-28T14:47:34.010+01:00UK now has the worse daily fatality rate in Europe...UK now has the worse daily fatality rate in Europe.<br /><br />Care homes not included in UK numbers.<br /><br />Day 46:<br />21,749 UK<br />21,717 Spain<br />19,468 Italy<br /><br />https://www.newstatesman.com/2020/03/live-data-coronavirus-crisis-all-you-need-knowScottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-61325096319430849042020-04-28T14:25:48.600+01:002020-04-28T14:25:48.600+01:00So to conclude, in accordance with the skier schoo...So to conclude, in accordance with the skier school of debate, yes, as you say the UK never went ahead with herd immunity. Alba for Independencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02976605539450227099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-3490185370725286482020-04-28T13:52:28.154+01:002020-04-28T13:52:28.154+01:00A further thought we're also behind the curve ...A further thought we're also behind the curve on the compulsory wearing of face masks, again not because we're pursuing herd immunity but because the UK government is incompetent.<br /><br />Talk to anyone who's served in the UK armed forces on equipment provision and they'll tell you supplies are useless. There's also systemic managerial incompetence in the NHS due to huge levels of nepotism and cronyism, they are needlessly endangering the lives of their staff through decisions completely unrelated to PPE. Alba for Independencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02976605539450227099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-48265727799109269682020-04-28T13:44:41.367+01:002020-04-28T13:44:41.367+01:00No you wouldn't you'd stockpile PPE as you...No you wouldn't you'd stockpile PPE as your planning on sending your healthcare system to war for a considerable period of time. The `Herd Immunity conversations were just rabbit in the headlights stuff. The PPE fiasco is just another example of UK Government incompetence, this downgrade was a manipulation purely for the purposes of PPE provision because the UK had nowhere near enough. As said many times if on March 13th the risk level is downgraded, why introduce stricter measures on March 16th then further again on the 20th and then full lockdown on the 23rd, surely that's counter intuitive is it not. <br /><br />This is another of your erroneous assumptions. Mortality rate is higher in the early stages of an epidemic providing the healthcare system doesn't become overwhelmed. The build up of clinical expertise and experience lowers the mortality rate over time for a new disease. I've heard straight from the horses mouth that treatment in the UK has evolved and improved over the last month to 6 weeks.<br /><br />You cite a study from Germany as an example of mortality rate but Germany has a much lower per capita death rate than the UK. Which means either, a much higher proportion of the infected population was tested, the populations are structurally different or the prevalence in the population is/was much lower. Now we know testing rates are higher in Germany but not to the extent that the lower per capita death rate can be explained by that factor alone. <br /><br />The UK Intensive Care National Audit and Research Centre reports a mean stay in ICU of 4 days for survivors and 5 days for non survivors, which completely contradicts your time to death guesstimate.<br /><br />The risk level of the disease has been upgraded rather than downgraded throughout the course of the pandemic, hence the measures introduced. There is no doubt the UK flirted with the idea of Herd Immunity but ultimately chose not to adopt the strategy, which is a good job because the speed of the epidemic in the UK has proved even faster than predicted by the mid March updated Imperial College modelling when they factored in more and more data from Italy.<br /><br />The UK locked down at roughly the same time, (maybe a bit earlier) as other European countries when you adjust for timelines. Sweden and the Netherlands have shown a commitment to Herd Immunity the UK hasn't we'll see who ultimately is proved right. Alba for Independencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02976605539450227099noreply@blogger.com