tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post7279234806484988109..comments2024-03-29T09:36:27.923+00:00Comments on SCOT goes POP!: London's pre-agreement is not needed to bring about an initial mandate for independence - even Mrs Thatcher accepted that.James Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-77771497343388507522019-12-30T09:45:45.484+00:002019-12-30T09:45:45.484+00:00And a tit called Anonymous. Thick jock pluggerAnd a tit called Anonymous. Thick jock pluggerGWCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-72579709219093792912019-12-30T09:44:48.479+00:002019-12-30T09:44:48.479+00:00Roddy Collarless-Shirt and Scottish Skier are 2 na...Roddy Collarless-Shirt and Scottish Skier are 2 nat si pussyboys that spend there lives on here posting shitGWCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-30712581839106130422019-12-29T20:27:34.687+00:002019-12-29T20:27:34.687+00:00This is what we continue to do for President Jamez...This is what we continue to do for President Jamez.<br /><br />So, direct me to nearest village and its idiot.Border Guardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-12681016818614928122019-12-29T18:28:18.376+00:002019-12-29T18:28:18.376+00:00Ye know if there was ever the best reason to vote ...Ye know if there was ever the best reason to vote for Scottish Independance its this GWC character every time i read his comments it reinforces even more <br />well done son keep it up Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-81402484888376658702019-12-29T16:22:55.188+00:002019-12-29T16:22:55.188+00:00We the Scottish People were not around to vote dur...We the Scottish People were not around to vote during 1707. It was the ruling classes for their own political economic reasons made the Union. Profit Jim Lad. GWCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-35738271626348883912019-12-29T16:07:17.083+00:002019-12-29T16:07:17.083+00:00So your saying it is true as well, we the Scottish...So your saying it is true as well, we the Scottish people did not vote to join the Union in 1707 with England, At least you are being honest, and acknowledge the facts as written in history.Cottonbobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13543845441191122661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-58938631511142917272019-12-29T15:59:04.250+00:002019-12-29T15:59:04.250+00:00So your saying it is true as well, we the Scottish...So your saying it is true as well, we the Scottish people did not vote to join the Union in 1707 with England, At least you are being honest, and acknowledge the facts as written in history.Cottonbobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13543845441191122661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-34754316647932493332019-12-29T15:14:47.211+00:002019-12-29T15:14:47.211+00:00Most Scottish people did not know where the neares...Most Scottish people did not know where the nearest village was during 1707. They just killed for the Clan Chief when required. GWCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-5960163177799301132019-12-29T15:05:21.047+00:002019-12-29T15:05:21.047+00:00You'll have a lot more time to enter public li...You'll have a lot more time to enter public life since getting booted out of Aberdeen South by your local branch. Try and stay off the drink and extras over New Year.K Hair (Miss)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-65933379784132820672019-12-29T13:30:40.631+00:002019-12-29T13:30:40.631+00:00I have a question as to the legal votes of soverei...I have a question as to the legal votes of sovereign Scottish people, if GWC says that the result of Scotland’s people counts when we voted to stay in the union in 2014, and he goes back in history to make this statement.<br />Then GWC must also recognise if we were to go back in history and double check the result of 1707 vote that was given to the Scottish sovereign people to see if they wished to join in union with England and Wales it would be valid.<br />Except I cannot find the result of that 1707 vote in any historical document anywhere. I can see and find records that say a number of wealthy Scottish elite agreed to it if they could acquire financial recompense from England, in which they did receive as a pay off.<br />However history shows that the people of Scotland did not vote to join in a union with with England and the then annexed Wales. Voting to stay in a union in 2014 that the Scottish people had not voted to join in in1707 becomes a farcical void and invalid vote.<br />I hope by now that the sovereign people of Scotland realise that the only people to join the treaty were the elite that got payed for doing so. And I presume it has to be pointed out that the sovereign Scottish people did not elect or select those people, they took it upon themselves, and afterwards had to go run and hide from the sovereign Scottish people, and England sent an army up to Scotland to shut the Scottish people up. Real history, real events We the sovereign Scottish people did not vote to join the treaty of the union in 1707, we never got asked, so I presume we never joined Cottonbobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13543845441191122661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-64676717443544583882019-12-29T11:56:56.825+00:002019-12-29T11:56:56.825+00:00Poor Skier the Irishman with the Frog wife interfe...Poor Skier the Irishman with the Frog wife interfering in Scotland and the UK. Has a four year old child who I hope is not being educated at British Taxpayers expense. Big Ben is going to Bong on 31 January 2020 to celebrate leaving the fascist Mafia corrupt EU. Her magnificence HMQ will order that all church bells will ring throughout the nation. GWCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-11998029760156150542019-12-29T09:27:34.973+00:002019-12-29T09:27:34.973+00:00I've read that, apart from GWC, there are some...I've read that, apart from GWC, there are some complete idiots posting on here. But I've never been quite sure who they are.Roddy Collarless-Shirtnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-12622519725213861482019-12-29T07:28:17.172+00:002019-12-29T07:28:17.172+00:00They do. Have you never seen GWC's contributio...They do. Have you never seen GWC's contributions?Sir Alasdair Jocknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-23906240973397495442019-12-29T07:13:04.040+00:002019-12-29T07:13:04.040+00:00Why don't elected politicians take part in on-...Why don't elected politicians take part in on-line dialogue, such as this one? John McLeodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02819901710955068802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-37937778792994267162019-12-29T00:28:35.143+00:002019-12-29T00:28:35.143+00:00Well said Anonymous.
We have to wait 28 days from ...Well said Anonymous.<br />We have to wait 28 days from the Bill passing parliament to allow for "challenges" once that time has passed then Royal Assent is odds on. Then and only then does your scenario play out.<br />A Section30 is a "nice to have" but in the event of a NO --<br />https://www.businessforscotland.com/a-2020-scottish-independence-referendum-what-if-westminster-says-no/Kangaroohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01887585636139724750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-16916640102633461312019-12-28T22:16:04.050+00:002019-12-28T22:16:04.050+00:00I don't see what's wrong with that asserti...I don't see what's wrong with that assertion if made. If we have more English (elected in England) MPs ready to vote to end the union, what's not to like?Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-17621075549110523652019-12-28T21:02:44.780+00:002019-12-28T21:02:44.780+00:00The referendums bill has passed into legislation a...The referendums bill has passed into legislation at Holyrood giving the legal power to hold referendums within Scotland, the UK government cannot stop a referendum being held it can only refuse to accept or recognise the result but that doesn't mean the International community will react in the same way, and I doubt that they will <br /><br />The Scottish government can go ahead and hold a referendum on anything they choose and I believe they will announce an Independence referendum in the new year to be held in the Autumn of 2020 just as the FM said and dare Johnson to publicly say no and the more the media and Johnson make all their noise about refusing Scotland a say on it's own future, assurance that this is the right thing to do for Scotland will make the difference to the *not sure* voters and they will swing towards the proposition, adding to the fact that 16-17 year olds and EU citizens will be entitled to vote, plus technically we'll be out of the EU by the end of January but still in the transition period allowing officials of the EU to speak their minds publicly and my guess is they'll be arriving in Scotland in numbers to do just that <br /><br />Once Scotland is assured of EU entry in a timely fashion Scottish voters will I believe be very keen to be voting YES in big letters and numbers<br /><br />Except for the loud shouty sectarian bampots bigots and *I want to remain British lot* who'll shout anyway for a while until they realise that nothing much will change from what they are right now, It'll be England that'll be having the problems<br /><br />If the FM doesn't deliver something like that I'll be surprised, and if she doesn't then we can all vote Tory at the next election and inflict on Scotland what they think they want, total dictatorship by a foreign power who'll strip Scotland bare until there isn't anything left then they'll offer Scotland Independence once we're impoverished to prove how much they love and care for us <br />That'll be in around 30-35 years when they don't need the oil, just like Michael Gove said Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-15025308145272786062019-12-28T20:19:07.276+00:002019-12-28T20:19:07.276+00:00Amid the tristesse and uncertainty, I am pleased t...Amid the tristesse and uncertainty, I am pleased to announce my presence, in the coming year, at Bayreuth, Bregenz and Verona. Hélas, like the sword of Damocles, a question mark hangs ominously above Avignon.Constantine Mudgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-87253936750377264762019-12-28T19:50:54.630+00:002019-12-28T19:50:54.630+00:00James said "Even countries like Venezuela wer...James said "Even countries like Venezuela were not willing to take the risk of recognising Catalan independence." Comparison of Catalunya's situation with Scotland's is not a fair comparison. Spain's written constitution defines Spain as "indissoluble", thereby making any attempted secession by a region unlawful. The fact that this was written in the immediate aftermath of Franco's death and was significantly shaped by the dictator's military successors is neither here nor there: it hasn't been modified since then, so it still applies and keeps all the Spanish regions captive at law.<br /><br />This doesn't apply in Scotland's case: there is nothing in the Act of Union 1707 to prevent secession by either country. Given the absence of a written constitution in the UK, precedent, practice and legal opinion are what passes for "law" in Constitutional matters. However, I'm not aware of any legally binding legislation or convention that would prevent secession by Scotland. If anyone else is aware of such an issue, I'd be interested to know more. <br /><br />I do however recognise that we would have, as a first step, to demonstrate the support of a majority of the electorate in order to get international recognition. If UK Gov isn't prepared to grant transfer of S30 powers to hold a referendum, what is there to prevent Scot Gov holding its own plebiscite under proper international scrutiny? There's also the bonus that going that route and ensuring our own tight rules re postal/proxy votes etc will reduce the risk of interference by the UK state. Coinneachnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-4285301996472447902019-12-28T18:57:55.120+00:002019-12-28T18:57:55.120+00:00Given SNP was underestimated by 2-6% ahead of the ...Given SNP was underestimated by 2-6% ahead of the UKGE, we can assume Yes was underestimated too, possibly by similar %'s. The average for the past year was 49% Yes before any underestimation, and of course before the Tory win / brexit being confirmed as going ahead.<br /><br />Also, of course, before the coming great brecession. <br /><br />Will be interesting to see new polls more correctly weighted now that UKGE past VI matches well with Holyrood 2016. These will give us our starting point ahead of the full hit of the Tory induced job losses etc. Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-64067222227100940432019-12-28T18:39:13.747+00:002019-12-28T18:39:13.747+00:00The question is when the recession - which I also ...The question is when the recession - which I also expect will happen -really starts to bite. Only then are we likely to see sufficient movement to Yes for us to be sure of winning. I am not convinced that it will be before end 2020 but of course I could be wrong - time will tellClachangowkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06789125065741492763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-72812099366510432262019-12-28T18:35:19.205+00:002019-12-28T18:35:19.205+00:00I don't remember the bit in the 2014 vote that...I don't remember the bit in the 2014 vote that said anything about rejecting or surrendering our sovereignty.<br /><br />There's been no change to Scots Law to strip of us of it for one thing.<br /><br />The only card Westminster might have is preventing us from expressing that sovereignty in a referendum.<br /><br />Unfortunately for them they can no longer rely on the EU to get them trade deals. They must do so on their own. To do so will need all the good will they can muster. Their treatment of Scotland and Northern Ireland will both impact on that.Iain McCordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04114399330514686626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-72271764900719873932019-12-28T17:50:22.688+00:002019-12-28T17:50:22.688+00:00Growth is now the slowest it's been since 2009...Growth is now the slowest it's been since 2009 while there is a mass exodus of skilled workers underway.<br /><br />Wages are still below 2008 levels with growth in these stalling as EU workers run for the exit gates in their hundreds of thousands as productivity crashes in response. <br /><br />I'm afraid we will be soon entering an extended recession with high unemployment. The bigger the Tory majority, the longer the dole queues. Plot the two up and you'll see what I mean. <br /><br />Brexit has no hope of success. It is unwanted by half the UK nations and was built on hate. Only movements with majority support founded on good intentions can ever hope to succeed.Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-26182120191049416082019-12-28T17:44:35.333+00:002019-12-28T17:44:35.333+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-47053602053421650792019-12-28T17:15:33.651+00:002019-12-28T17:15:33.651+00:00Sorry young James but the dragged out cliche has o...Sorry young James but the dragged out cliche has over exhausted itself. Try something like most Scots are EU crawlers. If the economy remains strong after leaving the EU then most Scots will forget yesterday. GWCnoreply@blogger.com