tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post6734566190236449827..comments2024-03-29T01:33:01.670+00:00Comments on SCOT goes POP!: The test for the decent Lib Dem rank-and-file : at what point do they say 'up with this we will not put'?James Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-43630552872105183242010-10-24T11:15:45.981+01:002010-10-24T11:15:45.981+01:00That’s a good point James, but I was working on th...That’s a good point James, but I was working on the premise that benefit dependants in Glasgow on IB at the moment would be unlikely to have a partner in a position to trigger the means test. Moore I thought seemed to imply that you would be out on your ear no matter what and if that were true Glasgow already one of the most squalid and deprived areas of the UK would become a whole lot worse.Munguinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16475165830302054002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-34667725885747138182010-10-23T23:36:21.031+01:002010-10-23T23:36:21.031+01:00James: My understanding was that they are removing...James: My understanding was that they are removing the contribution based JSA altogether. JSA will henceforth be means tested.<br /><br />Yes, that's true James but they are not making much headway in that, even with such towering (by Liberal standards) figures as Kennedy and Campbell. We need to see how they will vote on some of these frankly ridiculous proposals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-25406963106066186222010-10-23T15:24:32.160+01:002010-10-23T15:24:32.160+01:00Munguin, there are still a lot of ambiguities to t...Munguin, there are still a lot of ambiguities to this, but I've formed the very strong impression that people will not necessarily be moved onto a lower rate of benefit after a year - the intention seems to be that it will be withdrawn altogether if the person has a partner in work. The idea is to bring ESA into line with 'contributory JSA' which only lasts for six months before means-testing kicks in.<br /><br />Tris - my only worry about disgruntled Lib Dems crossing the floor is that once they do that they won't have the chance to push for withdrawal from the coalition from within the party.James Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-21193611622831875802010-10-23T10:08:15.513+01:002010-10-23T10:08:15.513+01:00The cababilty assesment will comprise a points bas...The cababilty assesment will comprise a points based form and a physical assesment conducted by a mediacl professional who will doubtless have a target of people to get off the more expensive options. You can see where I am going with this no doubt. Those who are work shy but reasonably intelligent will quickly be able to figure out where to put the right tick and what buzz words to say at the assesment. Those who are really needy, or a bit slow will quickly be targeted as easy to get off the higher rates and unlikely to create a fuss. In addition the number of appeals against these decisions is likely to rocket. Currently the period of time it takes an appeal is 30+ days and they are talking of getting rid of 500,000 staff so it wont take a genius to figure out what will happen there.Munguinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16475165830302054002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-83676826651015212402010-10-23T09:59:16.800+01:002010-10-23T09:59:16.800+01:00Moore is an idiot pure and simple to have implied ...Moore is an idiot pure and simple to have implied that people in Glasgow would be dumped off benefits altogether. As I understand it people applying for Employment Support Allowance can get it in any of three ways: 1) as a job seeker where they will get £65 per week. The other two relate to being incapacitated for work and require a capability assessment which will allow access to: 2) incapacitated person who needs help to get back to work and will get £91 per week (the same as Incapacity Benefit now) 3) severely incapacitated person who cannot work at all and gets £95 per week.<br /><br />Now as I understand it the 12 month time limit is going to apply to people in the 2) bracket. Who after their year on £91 per week will go onto the £65 per week as a job seeker. That is not that different to now where a new assessment is done for IB every 2 years. People in 2 &3 will not need to attend the job centre to sign on and will not need to actively be seeking work but people on 1 will.<br /><br />As yet we don’t know more details of for example whether after the 12 months people can reapply to be reassessed and go back on the higher money for another 12 months. We will have to wait and see!Munguinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16475165830302054002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-15779621092375704002010-10-22T22:32:00.793+01:002010-10-22T22:32:00.793+01:00Time for some floor crossing I think. Maybe not to...Time for some floor crossing I think. Maybe not to join Labour. Maybe just as Independents.<br /><br />I wonder how the Scottish Liberals are feeling about Danny Alexander and that fool Michael Moore.<br /><br />If I were a Liberal voter I'd be keen to hear what Tavish has to say about them at least, if not the rest of the Liberal ministers before I did any voting in May.<br /><br />If I were a Liberal Democrat activist, I'd be most uncomfortable standing on doorsteps. I foresee big problems.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-17358937370508178122010-10-22T16:40:00.439+01:002010-10-22T16:40:00.439+01:00I hope that's not all, Ezio - eight per cent m...I hope that's not all, Ezio - eight per cent may be concentrating a few minds, but six per cent would concentrate them even more.James Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-66600236750780298012010-10-22T15:32:52.765+01:002010-10-22T15:32:52.765+01:00EIGHT PERCENT.
That is all.EIGHT PERCENT.<br /><br />That is all.Ezio Auditore da Firenze - Protecting Florence from Westminster's cutsnoreply@blogger.com