tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post4163786240459510659..comments2024-03-29T07:48:22.768+00:00Comments on SCOT goes POP!: Davidson's line of attack lies in TATTERS as Panelbase poll reveals a majority of the Scottish public want an early independence referendumJames Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-694612681730866912019-05-28T15:32:32.098+01:002019-05-28T15:32:32.098+01:00Bright red cardigan over printed dresses, oh look!...Bright red cardigan over printed dresses, oh look!, there goes Concord again.<br /><br />A fine thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-30610406010203841642019-05-26T09:34:17.319+01:002019-05-26T09:34:17.319+01:00Is she what you would call a Bagwitch? Is she the ...Is she what you would call a Bagwitch? Is she the one called Elizabeth? Who is Kate? Daughter?Toffolonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-29217396852648178672019-05-25T20:15:49.885+01:002019-05-25T20:15:49.885+01:00No, my maths is fine. If 3.4% of the electorate ca...No, my maths is fine. If 3.4% of the electorate can't vote on a 34% turnout, then 10% of that turnout might be lost. That's an Mep in Scotland. <br /><br />However, it was only illustration as noted. I clearly said I did not know the scale of the problem nor extent in Scotland. <br /><br />If the final numbers denied a vote uk wide could have changed the result on terms of 1 mep, the election needs to be held again. Democracy must be ensured. Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-43624312095332845422019-05-25T20:12:51.103+01:002019-05-25T20:12:51.103+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-29903663554109500702019-05-25T19:38:15.494+01:002019-05-25T19:38:15.494+01:00Sorry your maths is wrong. the most votes that ca...Sorry your maths is wrong. the most votes that can of been lost is 3.4% of the electorate. 10.1% of votes cannot be lost from 3.4% of the electorate - that would meant they all had three votes. <br /><br />THe 2 million figure is the total estimated number of registered EU votes, so clearly that is not going to be the figure. <br /><br />Obviously there has been an issue and the reasons why need to be looked at and addressed (especially as the same issues happened in 2014). Ultimately it will be down to the EU to decide is the result is valid. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-3190131631358766672019-05-25T18:52:04.107+01:002019-05-25T18:52:04.107+01:00The numbers were for scale as stated. An example.
...The numbers were for scale as stated. An example.<br /><br />However, 3.4 / 33.5 (the 2014 turnout) * 100 = 10.1% of votes potentially cast = almost a full seat changing type result, if most EU voters were denied the vote.<br /><br />Anyway, 2 million unable to vote UK wide and the election needs to be held again. It's not a valid result if people are unable to vote. Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-84653288312339572242019-05-25T17:37:29.431+01:002019-05-25T17:37:29.431+01:00EU citizens make up 3.4 of Scottish Electorate on ...EU citizens make up 3.4 of Scottish Electorate on typical turnout looking at 1.5% at worst, don't know how you get 12.5% Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-73400992536900785862019-05-25T17:11:26.359+01:002019-05-25T17:11:26.359+01:00As a follow on we should ask why Scotland should c...As a follow on we should ask why Scotland should continue to be ruled by a political rabble who are being hugely rejected by voters in England.<br />Do we value ourselves so lowly that we're waiting to see what happens next. <br />Asking for a S30 order is a good tactic as it reveals the arrogance of the London elite in their response.<br />People are switching to YES no doubt about it. <br />Many were giving the UK one last chance. They blew it.. ramstamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10764651142754131538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-31472558376417324532019-05-25T15:33:26.286+01:002019-05-25T15:33:26.286+01:00Scotland disnae hae a queen.
Tho there is an awfie...Scotland disnae hae a queen.<br />Tho there is an awfie big holiday cottage forenent oor pairliament. <br />Absentee landlords eh! ramstamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10764651142754131538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-56881291786052685832019-05-25T15:31:54.330+01:002019-05-25T15:31:54.330+01:00Seems up to 2 million EU citizens were unable to v...Seems up to 2 million EU citizens were unable to vote.<br /><br />Talk of court cases.<br /><br />It may be necessary to re-run the election. It's illegal to prevent people voting the numbers being floated could have totally changed MEP make-up.<br /><br />I'm not sure about Scotland, but to use use it as an example simply for scale, the above numbers could readily mean 12.5% being removed from Remain parties on a typical turnout, i.e. a whole extra MEP being potentially handed to Leave.Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-44159764674013561952019-05-25T12:35:00.637+01:002019-05-25T12:35:00.637+01:00Difficult to see how the current situation doesn&#...Difficult to see how the current situation doesn't end in a no deal brexit and so a very messy break up of the UK.Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-77049936891909842092019-05-25T12:18:57.172+01:002019-05-25T12:18:57.172+01:00"As a side note, if Scotland votes Yes, for i..."As a side note, if Scotland votes Yes, for it to later rejoin the UK, there would need to be a second referendum in Scotland, but also one in the rest of the UK."<br /><br />Here's a question I like to ask people who claim that an independent Scotland would ever look to give up that independence:<br /><br />How many countries have voluntarily surrendered independence once gained, in modern history. Or even in ancient history?<br /><br />Once you've answered that, then you have to ask yourself, what makes Scotland so different that you believe there would be a possibility of an independent Scotland surrendering that autonomy?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-36342372654150781702019-05-25T11:25:52.784+01:002019-05-25T11:25:52.784+01:00Naw, bit yoan yin hiz nae claes.
'Buffalo Rid...Naw, bit yoan yin hiz nae claes.<br /><br />'Buffalo Rider', thoan precursor tae 'Beached Blue Whale'.<br /><br />Richt J. Curtice Esq., whaurs yurr nummurrs fur thoan EU.Foonurtnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-62255905183012094342019-05-25T11:00:18.198+01:002019-05-25T11:00:18.198+01:00Has the queen just had a baby or something? It see...Has the queen just had a baby or something? It seems unlikely.Mary Geantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-42080823429837038532019-05-25T10:35:30.413+01:002019-05-25T10:35:30.413+01:00Given the reports of voter suppression in this ele...Given the reports of voter suppression in this election I doubt speculation about indyref2 is wise from a unionist standpoint.<br /><br />Does make me wonder whether the aim of it was to lower the votes for the Greens and Lib Dems in England as the main Remain parties allowing the Conservatives and perhaps Labour to steal a few more seats than polls predict.<br /><br />In Scotland it's probably SNP and Greens.,<br /><br />Given this site's focus the follow-up question is whether that suppression would have had a major impact on polling if known in advance. If so then the changed basis for any "tactical" voting advice might have led to different conclusions.Iain McCordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04114399330514686626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-80289277972308592982019-05-25T07:27:37.961+01:002019-05-25T07:27:37.961+01:00Aye, and what kind of mandate to rule Scotland wil...Aye, and what kind of mandate to rule Scotland will Bozo or any other right wing PM have when chosen by a few thousand South of England Tories running scared of Farage..<br />Even loyal Scots Tories will struggle to convince anyone we're in some kind of equal Union.<br />Last days of Empire surely. ramstamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10764651142754131538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-20887234444570231532019-05-24T17:38:49.852+01:002019-05-24T17:38:49.852+01:00I'm not really sure what you mean - only the N...I'm not really sure what you mean - only the Netherlands and the UK have completed voting so far. There was an exit poll in the Netherlands last night, but that's the only concrete information so far. The vast majority of countries don't vote until Sunday.James Kellynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-40887530553559152542019-05-24T17:36:21.385+01:002019-05-24T17:36:21.385+01:00Sorry but don't people know by the turnout? Th...Sorry but don't people know by the turnout? The other countries have results already out.dont the people on the ground know if they got their voters out?BillfromBostonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09399762489266212680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-74783984174336529142019-05-24T15:03:58.283+01:002019-05-24T15:03:58.283+01:00Kello Rovers!, I'll Kello Rovers ye.Kello Rovers!, I'll Kello Rovers ye.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-4427696914953558562019-05-24T14:52:02.667+01:002019-05-24T14:52:02.667+01:00'Nat sis'. Grow up, have some self esteem ...'Nat sis'. Grow up, have some self esteem and stop being a door mat for the people in the country next door.Gordyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15413438659951726036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-19839885030146270502019-05-24T11:34:28.381+01:002019-05-24T11:34:28.381+01:00Obviously, the new PM will have even less of a man...Obviously, the new PM will have even less of a mandate for 'now is not the time' than the previous one. At least May could claim to have won the 2017 UK parliament election UK-wide. <br /><br />PM Bozo for example would be completely unelected (outside of his own constituency). Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-27313040847520292882019-05-24T10:41:21.321+01:002019-05-24T10:41:21.321+01:00Oh, and Scotland is also currently divided on the ...Oh, and Scotland is also currently divided on the matter. 49% Yes / 51% No in polls. So turning that the other way isn't going to make a lot of difference is it?<br /><br />There's no blood on the streets while we're in the union by a bawhair and so likewise there'd not be if we were out by a bawhair.<br /><br />Unless you are suggesting unionists don't accept democracy and are violent / dangerous? <br /><br />Unionists would be free to campaign for re-joining the UK just as indy supporters dusted themselves off and got back out on doorsteps after 2014. That's democracy!Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-38814114558273260412019-05-24T10:33:35.081+01:002019-05-24T10:33:35.081+01:00Even that was the case, so what? That's life. ...Even that was the case, so what? That's life. It's not as if it can be stopped or should be.<br /><br />I mean should people stop voting for what they think is best because it's not clear if a massive supermajority of some form will agree with them? If so, we'd never be voting. <br /><br />So if Scotland votes Yes by 50%+1, then independence it will be. Maybe a later unionist win might try to reverse that, but they'd face the same backlash as Con+Lab are facing now. It would likely destroy them at the polls. <br /><br />---<br /><br />As a side note, if Scotland votes Yes, for it to later rejoin the UK, there would need to be a second referendum in Scotland, but also one in the rest of the UK. It would be completely anti-democratic otherwise. Just because Scots wanted to reverse the result doesn't mean the people of the rUK would want that too for example. They would need to be consulted.Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-67844387308797235502019-05-24T10:25:49.760+01:002019-05-24T10:25:49.760+01:00Also the Greek entry was fantastic.Also the Greek entry was fantastic.Wings FMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10494243098533220458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-13867397106074299602019-05-24T10:25:22.630+01:002019-05-24T10:25:22.630+01:00Theresa May resigning.
So, the UK will now move o...Theresa May resigning.<br /><br />So, the UK will now move on to having an even more incompetent PM and the 'Great British Constitutional Crisis/Collapse' will go from worse to disastrous.<br /><br />Even if there was someone remotely competent standing in the wings ready to take the helm, they'd have an almost impossible task in terms of trying to sort this mess out. <br /><br />The SNP need to give up on any attempt to save England from itself and just focus on extracting Scotland from this giant pile of torn union flag adorned shit. While their approach is not hurting support for Yes at all, it's not helping them as a party any more, and I suspect it's even starting to hurt them.<br /><br />A proportion of the brexit vote are not unionists, but Scexiters wanting e.g. a Norway style EFTA/EEA Scotland. <br /><br />Also, like me, while I'd rather brexit was cancelled, I don't think Scotland should be trying to cancel England's brexit. Not if Scotland can freely go indy and let England do what it wants.Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.com