tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post3850789300121101521..comments2024-03-29T05:53:21.060+00:00Comments on SCOT goes POP!: Pressure mounts on Cameron : is he really going to betray The Vow, and risk reopening the independence question?James Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-61425095691890125752016-02-12T22:42:33.677+00:002016-02-12T22:42:33.677+00:00Well it looks like everything need to be said has ...Well it looks like everything need to be said has been,and an agreement at the last minute? no deal.Charles O'Brien.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10778040983298966024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-8259955728189020522016-02-12T15:01:19.656+00:002016-02-12T15:01:19.656+00:00An excellent choice, and thank you for taking the ...An excellent choice, and thank you for taking the comment in the spirit with which it was intended.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-74014255844100441112016-02-12T12:58:27.224+00:002016-02-12T12:58:27.224+00:00Perhaps I have a habit of using 'pretext' ...Perhaps I have a habit of using 'pretext' more loosely than its strict dictionary definition, although I think the meaning was clear enough. To avoid any potential confusion, I've changed it to 'casus belli'.James Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-56696749989656420462016-02-12T12:20:34.249+00:002016-02-12T12:20:34.249+00:00I'm interested that the unionist trolls don...I'm interested that the unionist trolls don't seem to have a lot to say about thisFrann Leachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794415830004140025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-35090559921681761332016-02-11T22:49:39.359+00:002016-02-11T22:49:39.359+00:00It was to be a £7.5 billion cut, Cameron et al try...It was to be a £7.5 billion cut, Cameron et al try to pretend they are now offering £4.5 billion 'more'. <br />Instead it is still a £3 billion cut.Brian Powellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-80385140902337987282016-02-11T19:48:36.903+00:002016-02-11T19:48:36.903+00:00If you go to the Centre for Constitutional Change ...If you go to the Centre for Constitutional Change page here http://centreonconstitutionalchange.ac.uk/papers/adjusting-scotlands-block-grant-new-tax-and-welfare-powers-assessing-options?dm_i=2MQP,MWX0,3KRVGI,1HNRT,1<br /><br />you'll find a link to a (rather long) paper by David Bell.Dennis Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04533079746508505314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-67661195709531411032016-02-11T17:26:43.440+00:002016-02-11T17:26:43.440+00:00The APD and Crown estate devolution is worthwhile....The APD and Crown estate devolution is worthwhile.<br />The income tax proposal less so - unless we have a fair no-detriment principle.<br /><br />However, an weak deal would inevitably lead to a better deal or independence. It would have to. No deal bears the risk of no change, and it doesn't exactly make independence any easier to achieve either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-37896958889529705382016-02-11T16:02:21.542+00:002016-02-11T16:02:21.542+00:00thus bringing about one of the two obvious pretext...<i> thus bringing about one of the two obvious pretexts for a second referendum that we always knew were possible </i><br /><br />Rather than make a meal out of what is probably an innocent mistake, pretext is possibly not the right word for what you meant to say there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-27690128158287505232016-02-11T15:44:05.903+00:002016-02-11T15:44:05.903+00:00I personally couldn't give a toss about the sh...I personally couldn't give a toss about the shoddy Scotland Bill. It isn't in Scotland's interest end of! It is crooked pure and simple. It doesn't come close to the "Vow" and it doesn't even come close to the watered down Smith Commission Proposals. The Scotland Bill is nothing less than a vile Brit Nat attempt to stick the boot into us pure and simple, only a drooling dribbling self flagellating Brit Nat would think otherwise. Iain Morenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-47430890803367423162016-02-11T15:36:57.190+00:002016-02-11T15:36:57.190+00:00Does anyone have links to neutral articles about t...Does anyone have links to neutral articles about the various methods of calculating the Barnett Formula wrt the Scotland Bill?Alex Birniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02955713642143770277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-45340633324692067902016-02-11T15:36:34.376+00:002016-02-11T15:36:34.376+00:00Does anyone have links to neutral articles about t...Does anyone have links to neutral articles about the various methods of calculating the Barnett Formula wrt the Scotland Bill?Alex Birniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02955713642143770277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-19511702457236739262016-02-11T15:36:13.111+00:002016-02-11T15:36:13.111+00:00"With six out of the ten members of the Smith..."With six out of the ten members of the Smith Commission (including representatives of four of the five parties involved) saying they broadly agree with the Scottish Government's interpretation of the 'no detriment' principle that was at the heart of the Smith package, it's going to be almost impossible for Cameron to establish a narrative of The Vow being sabotaged by the wicked SNP."<br /><br />Who are the four members of the Smith Commission who don't agree?Sunshine on Crieffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-9158991340766156582016-02-11T15:09:37.613+00:002016-02-11T15:09:37.613+00:00The wheels are coming off just about all of the To...The wheels are coming off just about all of the Tory's ill conceived policies and Cameron is desperate to get the contoversial ones out of the way before he departs the scene.<br />What is most important to him is his place in history and not being remembered as the English PM who presided over the break up of the UK state and retreat into Little England splendid isolationism.<br />He will not want the "Scottish problem" to continue into his final days in power so I would expect a settlement sooner rather than later.<br /><br />bringitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10712089398887269381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-81396855622784259762016-02-11T14:49:21.948+00:002016-02-11T14:49:21.948+00:00To be honest, I now think they would prefer no dea...To be honest, I now think they would prefer no deal at all. An unfair deal is just as risky for them - as the demand for independence will surely increase as the flaws become clear.Onwardsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-11309427039047714142016-02-11T14:33:39.024+00:002016-02-11T14:33:39.024+00:00Who will Gordon Brown blame? Tory party(PM stitche...Who will Gordon Brown blame? Tory party(PM stitched him up well EVEL)<br />SNP(ho hum)waterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03242753707412340371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-12799108366434889492016-02-11T14:18:32.762+00:002016-02-11T14:18:32.762+00:00For clarity : I think the Tories want a deal, but ...For clarity : I think the Tories want a deal, but not a fair deal. I think they imagined they could bully the SNP into accepting something that wasn't in Scotland's interests.James Kellynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-79088992741122757262016-02-11T14:14:45.617+00:002016-02-11T14:14:45.617+00:00Why the assumption that the Tories would prefer a ...Why the assumption that the Tories would prefer a deal?<br /><br />It looks like they see a chance to backtrack from last minute promises of the referendum. Promises they didn't really want to make.<br />And they can try to blame it on the SNP.<br /><br />IMO they don't want further devolution at all, because it is more likely to lead to independence. <br /><br />Good deal: People get used to paying taxes to Scotland. Independence a closer step.<br /><br />Bad Deal: Independence becomes essential to stop our economy entering a spiral of decline.<br />Onwardsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-59496244314343282692016-02-11T13:49:47.412+00:002016-02-11T13:49:47.412+00:00SNP and the Scottish goverment have nothing to los...SNP and the Scottish goverment have nothing to loss, in the next referendum what will that vow consist of, oh yes we got it wrong give us another chance to get it wright. It's looking good for the Indref2 and Cameron it's thanks to you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com