tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post3670905079327188115..comments2024-03-29T07:09:11.017+00:00Comments on SCOT goes POP!: An independence referendum looks ever more inevitable tonight as Tory rebels FAIL to vote down a hard BrexitJames Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-34767166599123451482018-07-27T05:20:57.175+01:002018-07-27T05:20:57.175+01:00Explain.Explain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-55295400871593411902018-07-22T12:12:49.030+01:002018-07-22T12:12:49.030+01:00And will be dealt with accordingly. And will be dealt with accordingly. GWC2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-44974098442769814732018-07-22T12:10:51.015+01:002018-07-22T12:10:51.015+01:00Know its place and provide the mint sauce.Know its place and provide the mint sauce.GWC2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-70147864538067942332018-07-21T23:41:55.230+01:002018-07-21T23:41:55.230+01:00Your probably never off Grinder. Trying to meet re...Your probably never off Grinder. Trying to meet rentboy with tattoos and beards. You purv.GWC2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-75972542360119383912018-07-21T23:39:47.982+01:002018-07-21T23:39:47.982+01:00I misspoke. When I wrote "fun" I meant t...I misspoke. When I wrote "fun" I meant to say "inspirational".GWC2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-13581731441275165022018-07-20T11:06:19.614+01:002018-07-20T11:06:19.614+01:00But to make clear, any referendum about seperatism...But to make clear, any referendum about seperatism is illegal anyway or soon will be.GWC2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-37717619849502430592018-07-19T22:44:12.806+01:002018-07-19T22:44:12.806+01:00James, I am not suggesting a legal referendum is b...James, I am not suggesting a legal referendum is boycotted. An illegal one, yes.GWC2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-73000449747723506272018-07-19T13:13:24.603+01:002018-07-19T13:13:24.603+01:00It'll be fun watching the Labour Branch campai...It'll be fun watching the Labour Branch campaigning in favour of rule by Rees Mogg, Johnson and Gove...GWC2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-60754008529142468652018-07-19T13:08:10.844+01:002018-07-19T13:08:10.844+01:00"Matchmaker matchmaker make me a match, buy m..."Matchmaker matchmaker make me a match, buy me a cat, bake me a batch."<br /><br />As Salmond sang to Angela Merkel while he was kissing her arse.GWC2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-56909995732791481592018-07-19T13:05:26.851+01:002018-07-19T13:05:26.851+01:00Fnarr fnarr fneep fneep fnirp fnirpFnarr fnarr fneep fneep fnirp fnirpGWC2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-26465701416182506842018-07-19T13:03:30.550+01:002018-07-19T13:03:30.550+01:00Sober up, minger.Sober up, minger.GWC2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-49992273263097083042018-07-19T10:43:43.981+01:002018-07-19T10:43:43.981+01:00The Water Closet Grinder, Le Grinder WC, GWC.The Water Closet Grinder, Le Grinder WC, GWC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-60229096775291950762018-07-19T10:41:38.689+01:002018-07-19T10:41:38.689+01:00You want to chain up Scotty Poppers so you can sto...You want to chain up Scotty Poppers so you can stop him running as you jock yer latte up his natsis. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-62095139801497596542018-07-19T10:39:04.948+01:002018-07-19T10:39:04.948+01:00You've hated Europe since Frank von Furter cre...You've hated Europe since Frank von Furter creased yer natsis when you were an Amsterdam rentboy back in the 90's. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-87065021905160216982018-07-19T10:21:07.338+01:002018-07-19T10:21:07.338+01:00Braco,
Just to say with first-past-the-post 40% d...Braco,<br /><br />Just to say with first-past-the-post 40% doesn’t give you a landslide it’s how you perform relative to the 2nd most popular party.<br /><br />Anyway, the reason I say it should be the Scots Parliament elections and not the UK is because in 2011 the independence referendum was called by the SNP as they won the election on a promise of holding one. Scottish elections are about Scotland whereas general elections are about the whole UK.<br /><br />In 2011 the SNP had a small minority of UK seats but that wasn’t a reason not to have the independence referendum, surely?<br /><br />If weUnion 2.0https://www.blogger.com/profile/16006292834539508418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-3031407030064517552018-07-19T09:36:59.710+01:002018-07-19T09:36:59.710+01:00Or of course you could simply follow your own cons...Or of course you could simply follow your own constitutional practices and agree that the Scottish Parliament can call a referendum on Independence any time it has a majority to get it passed in a vote on the floor of the Parliament. You know Democracy and the claim of right. <br />That way, during a referendum the unionist establishment, media and political party system acan be used again in the same completely unfair way to try and influence the outcome of IndyRef2. It will also require a 50%+1 vote rather than the usual 40% vote for a first past the post landslide of a general election.<br />If I were a blackhearted unionist I know which option I would prefer. I say we put it to the test and force a decision. <br /><br />braco :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-83243558547429367552018-07-19T09:25:26.357+01:002018-07-19T09:25:26.357+01:00Why Scottish Parliamentary elections Union2.0 It s...Why Scottish Parliamentary elections Union2.0 It s the UK we are leaving so it should be done at the UK elections. First past the post. If held at Holyrood elections the entire UK media and political party system can be used to interfere and influence the election campaign unfairly in the same way the full Brittish establishment was used to lie cheat and scare the Scottish population during the referendum. <br />If we hold the decision to leave during a Westminster General election it will get decided by the Scots on the merits of the arguments to Scotland as all UK parties and Media will be focused on their own issues in the general election campaign. The possibility of Scotland leaving the UK will come some way down their order of importance in those electoral circumstances (as its not that important to them in reality) and so Scottish Unionists will have to rely more on their own arguments and political skills in advancing their case for the Union. Good luck with that Union2.0. Think you and GWC2 would be up to the job?<br /><br />braco Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-25400843996437989732018-07-19T08:59:08.870+01:002018-07-19T08:59:08.870+01:00Look at Catalonia’s unofficial referendum and the ...Look at Catalonia’s unofficial referendum and the turnout there. Why would unionists (and many nationalists) vote in an unofficial referendum just a few years after an official one?<br /><br />Why is that a bogus point?<br /><br />The SNP (if they really want another referendum) should negotiate with the UK govt or, if that fails, stand on a manifesto of outright independence in the 2021 Scottish Parliament elections.Union 2.0https://www.blogger.com/profile/16006292834539508418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-20910753492672357592018-07-18T23:56:57.059+01:002018-07-18T23:56:57.059+01:00Are you suggesting that the unionist parties would...Are you suggesting that the unionist parties would boycott a legal referendum upheld by the UK Supreme Court? That would be, as Sir Humphrey Appleby might put it, a "courageous" decision.<br /><br />Your point about "UK and UN recognition" is bogus. But you knew that already.James Kellynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-5421283691202596952018-07-18T23:39:21.670+01:002018-07-18T23:39:21.670+01:00WeurgoninasSummerholiday. Congratulations and Cele...WeurgoninasSummerholiday. Congratulations and Celebrations and Hope Scotland will be free from its English Chains. Take these English Chains fae ma heart an set me free.<br />GWC2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-55317768917242908272018-07-18T23:30:04.691+01:002018-07-18T23:30:04.691+01:00Unionists should boycott a Nat si referendum and r...Unionists should boycott a Nat si referendum and render it null and void. Referendum results should be respected for a generation at least. The fascist EU and its economic opportunist Jock nat si crawlers are history.<br />GWC2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-17851928474932509022018-07-18T23:05:15.353+01:002018-07-18T23:05:15.353+01:00Apologies, James. I got my terminology wrong.
It ...Apologies, James. I got my terminology wrong.<br /><br />It would be an unrecognised one, in the UK, in the UN and in half of Scotland where there would be a mass boycott of unionists.<br /><br />That won’t help the independence cause. Douglas’ idea will.Union 2.0https://www.blogger.com/profile/16006292834539508418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-22453335845722990552018-07-18T23:04:20.600+01:002018-07-18T23:04:20.600+01:00If its an election Douglas, then its election rule...If its an election Douglas, then its election rules. IE a majority means a majority of pro Indy seats. It should also be during a Westminster election as that's the Parliament we will be leaving. This is a simple first past the post election system and represents British Democracy in action. <br /><br />If its a referendum then its a majority of those that vote. <br /><br />Can't have it both ways Union2.0. Its this choice that should focus Westminster's mind on which scenario they feel gives them a better chance of winning. Referendum or first past the post during a full UK general election. <br /><br />bracoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-3944766303658532632018-07-18T22:20:47.401+01:002018-07-18T22:20:47.401+01:00WRT your Sir Clifford of Rich comment, it's in... WRT your Sir Clifford of Rich comment, it's interesting seeing R Greenslade and the rest of teh Gaurdani going full Leask in their attack on the judgment. They are in favour of the media having absolute freedom to say anything they like about anybody without any redress. Fine bunch of lads. Fit in well with Journo Paedo and Ewen Spanner. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-69442281359597415242018-07-18T22:02:55.195+01:002018-07-18T22:02:55.195+01:00Union 2.0: For the millionth, billionth, zillionth...Union 2.0: For the millionth, billionth, zillionth time, a Referendum Bill passed by the Scottish Parliament and given Royal Assent will not be "illegal". It'll be the opposite of illegal. It'll be the law of the land. That Bill can be challenged in the Supreme Court before receiving Royal Assent, and if that challenge is upheld, the referendum won't go ahead. There are no circumstances in which an "illegal referendum" will be held. There are, however, circumstances in which a <i>legal referendum held against Westminster's wishes</i> may take place. You're making the schoolboy error of conflating "what Westminster wants" with "legality".James Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.com