tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post3284212712959534864..comments2024-03-29T00:45:59.964+00:00Comments on SCOT goes POP!: Allan Massie and the Mail on Sunday tell a direct lie about Alex SalmondJames Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-60863458554042007062015-03-30T21:28:03.393+01:002015-03-30T21:28:03.393+01:00SNP 50 Tories NilSNP 50 Tories NilJonahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-68547543452493345872015-02-09T13:26:11.356+00:002015-02-09T13:26:11.356+00:00I was on a flight Edinburgh to London yesterday an...I was on a flight Edinburgh to London yesterday and picked up a free copy of the Mail it is absolure nonsense with Hamish McDonell (fake name I bet) - The Voice of Scottish Politics spouting nonsense about the SNP. Apparently Cameron will win a majority because of the SNP. Eh how many Tories does he think Scotland will return?<br />I couldn't read any more of the horrible paper so I missed Massie column but maybe that is merciful.Denisenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-57210391155821555962015-02-09T12:13:54.641+00:002015-02-09T12:13:54.641+00:00Ah right - thanks for clarification Craig. Ah right - thanks for clarification Craig. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-60536021541815777462015-02-09T11:55:41.702+00:002015-02-09T11:55:41.702+00:00Interesting analysis by Euro-sceptic group "B...Interesting analysis by Euro-sceptic group "Business for Britain" of EU referendum polls. Shows more EU support in Scotland and the "west" of England + Wales.<br /><br />http://businessforbritain.org/2015/02/09/next-eu-referendum-could-be-an-east-west-contest-2/Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-44551718521452125982015-02-09T11:53:15.999+00:002015-02-09T11:53:15.999+00:00Populus sub-sample SNP 46, Lab 28, Con 16. Populus...Populus sub-sample SNP 46, Lab 28, Con 16. Populus have clearly adjusted their methodology in respect of Scotland; there is little down-weighting of the SNP in this poll. SNP are down-weighted 61-58, although Scottish respondents are up-weighted 170 to 180. There is still some adjustment there, but nowhere near the level of adjustment that was done until a week ago.<br /><br />http://populus.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/OmOnline_Vote_09-02-2015_BPC.pdfJamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-59215323926925519222015-02-09T11:49:11.652+00:002015-02-09T11:49:11.652+00:00Ashcroft said in his article introducing the resul...Ashcroft said in his article introducing the results last week that he was going to conduct polls in other parts of Scotland.<br /><br />"Most of the seats in this survey are in areas which returned a particularly strong yes vote in September, where the SNP attraction will naturally be greater; in future rounds of research we may find a different pattern where support for independence was lower."<br /><br />The problem for this kind of analysis is that the swings required are lower, because the Tory (and, in some places, Lib Dem) vote is stronger in other parts of Scotland. As Curtice says in his research piece for the Electoral Reform Society (published today), there is a level (40%+) at which the SNP's even spread of support becomes a help rather than a hindrance.Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-27082348477412910172015-02-09T10:30:53.230+00:002015-02-09T10:30:53.230+00:00Or does that make me a Maoist cadre within the Tru...Or does that make me a Maoist cadre within the True Yes fanshen?kailyard ruleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11098989013431186162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-73811414839162977722015-02-09T10:26:30.911+00:002015-02-09T10:26:30.911+00:00I see Foulkes was complaining about Ashcroft only ...I see Foulkes was complaining about Ashcroft only polling Yes-voting areas. Isn't there another tranche of polling still to come from him in No-voting constituencies? Or did I imagine that?keatonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-42654250551308563502015-02-09T10:19:59.992+00:002015-02-09T10:19:59.992+00:00Another indication that there are toes already toa...Another indication that there are toes already toasting in Westminster, and the paws of their running dog lackey scribbling liars at the Daily Mail (and ilk) are feeling the singe. kailyard ruleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11098989013431186162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-88536840443704556612015-02-08T23:19:11.747+00:002015-02-08T23:19:11.747+00:00I'd say this is more the mutant sibling of Pro...I'd say this is more the mutant sibling of Project Fear: it's not being used to get Scots to vote No, but to get Kippers in England to revert to the Tories.<br /><br />It's interesting how the exact principle which Labour used in the referendum - that a society can only function if its richest members are happy - is now being deployed against them by the Tory press.keatonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-31331642765724081972015-02-08T22:00:18.481+00:002015-02-08T22:00:18.481+00:00He is generally pretty circumspect when he writes ...He is generally pretty circumspect when he writes in the Hootsmon. His DM persona is altogether darker - like this corker: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2619458/So-happens-Scotland-votes-yes-Camerons-quit-Queen-furious-Shetlands-taken-oil-Scottish-economy-tanking-A-brilliant-imagining-life-Union.htmlHapLegnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-14909113963712433502015-02-08T21:52:01.230+00:002015-02-08T21:52:01.230+00:00Allan Massie has had his moments of thoughtfulness...Allan Massie has had his moments of thoughtfulness as well - I remember him taking a fairly non-swivel-eyed approach in the early years of devolution. But it seems those days are long gone.James Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-38698267613477607322015-02-08T21:32:03.497+00:002015-02-08T21:32:03.497+00:00Project Fear never went away.Project Fear never went away.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-31730394218018255252015-02-08T21:11:46.085+00:002015-02-08T21:11:46.085+00:00The Daily Mail liked the lie so much, they used it...The Daily Mail liked the lie so much, they used it TWICE in the article. Once in the text, and once in a photo's caption. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-7494221029873014082015-02-08T20:30:47.065+00:002015-02-08T20:30:47.065+00:00propaganda is a dangerous weapon propaganda is a dangerous weapon waterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03242753707412340371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-59926916180636702212015-02-08T20:08:07.602+00:002015-02-08T20:08:07.602+00:00You're thinking of Alex Massie. This chap is A...You're thinking of Alex Massie. This chap is Allan Massie. Craig Pnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-70316330003289379122015-02-08T18:43:20.338+00:002015-02-08T18:43:20.338+00:00it's the same trick Farage pulled when he was ...it's the same trick Farage pulled when he was routed in an Edinburgh pub during the referendum campaign. He said he was told "to go back to England" thus citing racism at every turn after the incident on every news channel. What was actually said, in the recordings and, ironically, from the Daily Mail's own transcript, he was told "to go back home, go back back to London" before several rounds of "Nigal is a bawbag". Anyway it's naked opportunism to spread a lie denigrating others for political gain, welcome to Indyref part 2.Dcanmorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00965371377920226907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-87918279990985969092015-02-08T17:16:57.341+00:002015-02-08T17:16:57.341+00:00Looks like the Mail accidentally on purpose mispla...Looks like the Mail accidentally on purpose misplaced the inverted commas, turning the NYT's misleading statement into an unequivocal falsehood.keatonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-73480830637877906522015-02-08T16:05:43.162+00:002015-02-08T16:05:43.162+00:00Perhaps Mr Massie got this from the New York Times...Perhaps Mr Massie got this from the New York Times' Morning Briefing for 29th September last year:<br /><br />"Uncertainty in Scotland.<br /><br />Alex Salmond, the outgoing first minister, told Scottish politicians they need to hold England’s “feet to the fire” over promises made before the Scots rejected independence last week.<br /><br />It was the Scottish Parliament‘s first session since the referendum."<br /><br />http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/09/23/us/latest-news-syria-strikes-un-climate-summit-jimmy-choo.html?_r=0<br /><br />A US paper making this mistake is one thing, but a UK columnist is quite another.Taranaichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02176999342965850175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-40172112594042402732015-02-08T16:02:49.460+00:002015-02-08T16:02:49.460+00:00Have been watching Korean food made easy, okay Sou...Have been watching Korean food made easy, okay South Korea, but the people look a damned sight happier than we are. I suppose I could live there, maybe import a bit happiness back home. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03930463301985234273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-53087826749271426982015-02-08T14:26:12.169+00:002015-02-08T14:26:12.169+00:00It's definitely a further sign of unionist des...It's definitely a further sign of unionist desperation. If anyone it's Massie who is stoking up English resentment. <br /><br />DDHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-74257237311353958952015-02-08T14:11:52.480+00:002015-02-08T14:11:52.480+00:00He can acknowledge whatever he likes, but what he ...He can acknowledge whatever he likes, but what he can't do (or shouldn't do) is lie about what other people have said.James Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-54464263789099083492015-02-08T13:37:00.078+00:002015-02-08T13:37:00.078+00:00Since Westminster is effectively England's par...Since Westminster is effectively England's parliament (ours is Holyrood),isn't this being acknowledged by Massie by using England in this context?<br />bringitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10712089398887269381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-7137873592769506042015-02-08T13:34:00.115+00:002015-02-08T13:34:00.115+00:00Johnny
Don't worry. You're not programmed...Johnny<br /><br />Don't worry. You're not programmed to understand! Don't try. It hurts!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-46893999918830071752015-02-08T13:24:13.293+00:002015-02-08T13:24:13.293+00:00This is playing merry hell with me and confusing m...This is playing merry hell with me and confusing me so much. My views are the same as they were last week, but I was a Nazi then and a Stalinist now! I don't understand. Help!Johnnynoreply@blogger.com