tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post3129604394157722229..comments2024-03-29T11:59:17.118+00:00Comments on SCOT goes POP!: Seven things that will happen if Britain votes to leave the EU in 2016James Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-6406140033128109372016-01-07T13:13:50.726+00:002016-01-07T13:13:50.726+00:00I have come late to this discussion but I was just...I have come late to this discussion but I was just thinking that things that will happen should Britain vote to stay in the EU should perhaps concern nationalists more. After all, this is the more likely outcome and will certainly put nationalists on the back foot as the door slams shut on the prospect of an early indy rerun. Majorities for the EU in rUK and Scotland would demonstrate similarity where the SNP has tried to push the idea of us being totally different from each other - and a pro EU majority in England would prevent their own right wing making the claim that it was only the celtic nations that kept them in. <br /><br />I expect big pro EU majorities in Scotland and Wales, a smaller but still sizeable pro EU majority in England. Northern Ireland is a different matter but is unlikely to affect the final outcome or attempt to make trouble from it. <br /><br />Happy New Year!<br /><br />AldoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-25277900704354291122015-12-30T19:15:06.547+00:002015-12-30T19:15:06.547+00:00Actually, I always though GWC had a very easy rela...Actually, I always though GWC had a very easy relationship with his sister. A very, very easy relationship...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-66534629603419529312015-12-30T14:08:37.925+00:002015-12-30T14:08:37.925+00:00"with it being Ireland, the seemingly logical..."with it being Ireland, the seemingly logical and obvious path will be that least likely to be trodden" Shove your anti-Irish bigotry up your arse pal. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05377329780194422401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-45941439872140231472015-12-29T16:27:25.912+00:002015-12-29T16:27:25.912+00:00As regards NI I think it matters not what happens ...As regards NI I think it matters not what happens with the EU referendum because a day will come when the demographics of NI are such that there will be a demand to join the rest of Ireland. Then it will either happen peacefully or we will be back to the "Troubles", but from the other side. Nodroghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11627233930655472420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-38980249400626314102015-12-29T15:36:13.560+00:002015-12-29T15:36:13.560+00:00When Sweden joined the EU in 1995 there was a bit ...When Sweden joined the EU in 1995 there was a bit of an outcry, especially in the British press, that several border crossing points with Norway were only manned by Norwegian officials. Effectively the claim was that entry to the EU was being controlled by the officials of a non-member state. Functionally nothing at all changed from the status quo of the Nordic Passport Union which had been effective from 1958.<br /><br />Of course times change and there are new challenges to freedom of movement within and into the EU but, in principal, a continuation of the Common Travel Area in some form would seem to be not too illogical from most points of view. Furthermore, the UK would probably aspire to EFTA and consequently EEA membership anyway.<br /><br />It could be argued that the terms of future of freedom of movement across the internal Irish border could come down to attitudes that present themselves in the the actual referendum campaign. How will the DUP align themselves? There seems to be uncertainty on that issue but Sammy Wilson and Nigel Farage have cozied up in recent months so let’s see. The UUP is traditionally eurosceptic as well and they are keeping their options well and truly open until the terms of Cameron’s “deal” are known.<br /><br />There’s a lot of water remaining to flow under this and many other bridges but we can be sure that, with it being Ireland, the seemingly logical and obvious path will be that least likely to be trodden.Phil Lawrencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12929452799095590860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-17152002239070915032015-12-29T12:45:25.633+00:002015-12-29T12:45:25.633+00:00"He'll blame it on the "Nat sis"..."He'll blame it on the "Nat sis" as usual"<br /><br />So sad that he has such a difficult relationship with his sister.Iain Carrnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-80063554034749872402015-12-28T23:04:12.246+00:002015-12-28T23:04:12.246+00:00Yes, it will.Yes, it will.James Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11480872609776312502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-71364185150168078002015-12-28T20:41:10.967+00:002015-12-28T20:41:10.967+00:00I thought Keaton was referring to you, fool. By th...I thought Keaton was referring to you, fool. By the way, the Labour man wants you to take his dinner jacket to the dry cleaners. He spilt subsidised champagne down it again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-18697292763104758692015-12-28T20:07:23.591+00:002015-12-28T20:07:23.591+00:00We will not know if Scotland votes to stay in as r...We will not know if Scotland votes to stay in as result will not be broken down by nation / regionKaren66https://www.blogger.com/profile/07202209963651797240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-71710287050555153362015-12-28T17:31:01.117+00:002015-12-28T17:31:01.117+00:00Thank goodness fur spell checkers. So you agree wi...Thank goodness fur spell checkers. So you agree with my comment.Glasgow Working Classnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-70285009775300245892015-12-28T17:27:32.769+00:002015-12-28T17:27:32.769+00:00Is it not theoretically possible (if doubtful) tha...Is it not theoretically possible (if doubtful) that the Common Travel Area could remain in place even if the UK leaves the EU? After all, the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man are outside the EU but inside the Common Travel Area? James Kellynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-90729049710833016502015-12-28T15:14:21.282+00:002015-12-28T15:14:21.282+00:00It's a UKIP thing. Polling shows that UKIP vot...It's a UKIP thing. Polling shows that UKIP voters in Scotland dislike English people the most. English Times (panelbase July 2015) found they look unfavourably on the English around twice as much as voters of other parties.<br /><br />I've always found that odd given they profess to love the UK, but there you go.Scottish_Skiernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-40767123715963140292015-12-28T14:27:22.198+00:002015-12-28T14:27:22.198+00:00"I think that Northern Ireland could be kept ..."I think that Northern Ireland could be kept on board if the government had the foresight to stuff them with more cash to make up for any shortfalls from lost EU funding. Of course, that's quite a big "If"."<br /><br />Sorry Stoat, but that's wishful thinking at an extreme level. The amount of money that would be required would run into tens of billions per annum. Neither a Tory government nor a Labour government would be able to find that amount of money, even if it were inclined to do so. Secondly, a border with checkpoints between NI and ROI would isolate Co. Donegal (in the ROI), which is connected by road to Dublin via roads in Northern Ireland. It would also deal a huge blow to cross-border activities of all kinds and bring back the resentments that road closures and security checkpoints caused during the Troubles. Even at the height of the Troubles there were never any passport checks when travelling between ROI and NI because of the Common Travel Area between Irelanda and the UK. The Common Travel Area could not survive under EU law if the UK withdrew from the EU, unless the and Ireland both joined Schengen. The chances of the UK joining Schengen after withdrawal from the EU (non-EU states can join Schengen, e.g. Norway, Iceland, Switzerland) are nil, so there would have to be full border controls between ROI and NI after a Brexit. There is no way in hell that nationalist people living in border areas would accept the re-introduction of border checkpoints (and the new introduction of passport checks) quietly and without fuss, and no way in hell that people in Co. Donegal wouldn't resent the extra travel time (especially for goods in transit) that customs and passport checks on the border would bring. Even many unionists in NI would have doubts about the wisdom of cutting off NI from easy access to markets in ROI, an action which would effectively put many NI SMEs out of business and cause severe damage to its already underperforming economy. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05377329780194422401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-58786316056058779522015-12-28T11:07:59.603+00:002015-12-28T11:07:59.603+00:00James, why don't you balance the topic and pro...James, why don't you balance the topic and provide seven important things you think may happen if Britain opts to remain in Europe? Now that would be really interesting!Luiginoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-30512540155176919602015-12-28T08:48:18.538+00:002015-12-28T08:48:18.538+00:00If there's to be no indyref2 until YES is stro...If there's to be no indyref2 until YES is strong favourite to win,I think the London government will enter negotiations before a referendum is ever held.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-37736802305157728352015-12-28T06:40:32.214+00:002015-12-28T06:40:32.214+00:00I'll second that ;-)I'll second that ;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-51607288599899408532015-12-28T03:05:31.246+00:002015-12-28T03:05:31.246+00:00It's "incompetent".It's "incompetent".keatonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-24746561789898347952015-12-28T02:07:27.635+00:002015-12-28T02:07:27.635+00:00Unintelligible as usual.Plus ca changeUnintelligible as usual.Plus ca changeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-58963198210415636412015-12-28T01:08:58.395+00:002015-12-28T01:08:58.395+00:00I left the bozzer at 9 pm with a kerry oot fae ra ...I left the bozzer at 9 pm with a kerry oot fae ra wee snug. Just listening tae U tae oan ra telly.<br />Glasgow Working Classnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-46033888409741536822015-12-28T01:02:25.018+00:002015-12-28T01:02:25.018+00:00Welcome back GWC!!! Did the boozers close early?Welcome back GWC!!! Did the boozers close early?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-32848811980478694472015-12-27T23:04:58.026+00:002015-12-27T23:04:58.026+00:00The Nat sis are so incompetant that there is no bl...The Nat sis are so incompetant that there is no blame. The English are tae blame fur everything. Even in an independent Scotland England will be tae blame for Nat si incompetence. Such is nationalism. The English are tae blame for Scottish foodbanks. A mean dae ye expect us Jokes tae put our hauns in oor pockets tae help oor ain. Naw they English owe us says Anonymous peeling an orange in his pocket.Glasgow Working Classnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-43201977835106024842015-12-27T22:49:30.495+00:002015-12-27T22:49:30.495+00:00I think too many off you have been watching River ...I think too many off you have been watching River City. It is only fiction, honest. The Scots will only vote Yes when they have credible people with honest proposals that can be trusted. Wee Kim Jung Eck strutting around Iran kissing Eye a tollie hug manays ring!.<br />Are we going to sell whisky and mini skirts to Iran?Glasgow Working Classnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-2381975012359505762015-12-27T17:58:06.821+00:002015-12-27T17:58:06.821+00:00"The referendum
(1)A referendum is to be hel...<i>"The referendum<br /><br />(1)A referendum is to be held on whether the United Kingdom should remain a member of the European Union.<br /><br />(2)The Secretary of State must, by regulations, appoint the day on which the referendum is to be held.<br /><br />(3)The day appointed under subsection (2)—<br /><br />(a)must be no later than 31 December 2017,<br /><br />(b)must not be 5 May 2016, and<br /><br />(c)must not be 4 May 2017."</i><br /><br />Doesn't seem to leave much of an escape route - the Act would have to be repealed to avoid a referendum.James Kellynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-67053549096124092292015-12-27T17:22:34.277+00:002015-12-27T17:22:34.277+00:00No, Westminster holds all the tanks.
Other than t...No, Westminster holds all the tanks.<br /><br />Other than that, they only have control because people believe that they have control.<br /><br />They also know bloody well that if they try to refuse to let Holyrood hold another referendum, then that will flip a lot of the soft 'no's over to hardline yes, and they'd have a potential repeat of the Irish Troubles on their hands, except that we'd have their nuclear base, all their nukes, and all their oil in our land.<br /><br />A rebellious Scotland, with all their nukes? They'll negotiate long before they let that happen. Or they'll move Faslane down into England somewhere, so win-win for us.Illynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-89821413436088453482015-12-27T17:17:24.618+00:002015-12-27T17:17:24.618+00:00I thought we were already involved in a major war?...I thought we were already involved in a major war?<br /><br />Only involved by 6(?) planes, but it's a very major war.Illynoreply@blogger.com