tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post2557098693930955539..comments2024-03-28T20:38:14.157+00:00Comments on SCOT goes POP!: A second lockdown - which would be harsher and longer - is inevitable if we lift the current one prematurely, and if we don't start testing, tracing and isolatingJames Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01516007141763230886noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-78151072507026219092020-04-15T07:51:09.193+01:002020-04-15T07:51:09.193+01:00My fear is that the Scottish Government will be &q...My fear is that the Scottish Government will be "bounced into it", if Sunak stops the government funding support for furlough at the end of May we'll have no choice but to reopen, we have no mechanism to raise those funds or pay furloughed workers ourself.chrism_scotlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00216771073195573342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-81960799918839230772020-04-15T06:10:26.658+01:002020-04-15T06:10:26.658+01:00I have found no evidence of this. Please supply li...I have found no evidence of this. Please supply links for confirmation please.haggishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018906911735274851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-60729498707364219882020-04-14T22:33:44.388+01:002020-04-14T22:33:44.388+01:00Yup. Caught a (pre-virus) episode of "Coast&q...Yup. Caught a (pre-virus) episode of "Coast" yesterday in which the alleged historian with the flowing locks was graciously extolling the many advantages of Denmark, that neighbouring little country of ~5M folk just across the North Sea. Not "too wee, etc." for the hypocrite there, it seems...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-82496630325629495802020-04-14T18:19:10.535+01:002020-04-14T18:19:10.535+01:00I was watching it on the TV during lunch. Not sure...I was watching it on the TV during lunch. Not sure which BBC channel (wife had it on).<br /><br />So the same Reporting Scotland journalist (Kirsty someone) ask the Chancellor Rishi Sunak about this claim PHE are stopping suppliers from selling vital PPE to Scotland. He quoted Leitch saying "we looked into it and we think it's rubbish". He then added, "there's no truth to this claim".<br /><br />Meanwhile Gompels Healthcare UK, one of the suppliers updated their website to explain that they were sorry but they had no choice - PHE had made that part of the criteria that they stop selling the PPE to Scotland.<br /><br />And Donald Macaskill has reiterated through Chris Musson of the Sun that no matter what politicians or chief medical officers say, Scottish Care members still can't buy PPE from their suppliers.<br /><br />None of this helps the care workers who can no longer order PPE from their normal UK suppliers and face looming shortages which will put their lives at greater risk. <br /><br />In the last few minutes a journalist tweeted that Germany has stepped in and will supply PPE to Scottish care workers. I sincerely hope that turns out to be true. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-77360274084823816262020-04-14T15:47:56.029+01:002020-04-14T15:47:56.029+01:00I was watching BBC1 Scotland online (TV not workin...I was watching BBC1 Scotland online (TV not working) and was told that would be continued on BBC Scotland. Switched over and it was. It lasted another 30 mins or so and was much more informative than whatever was on the BBC1 'Nationwide' news, I suspect.Ann Raynerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09621001606819774578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-60732548488362350672020-04-14T14:16:24.424+01:002020-04-14T14:16:24.424+01:00Scotland starting to flatten out quite well now it...Scotland starting to flatten out quite well now it would appear.<br /><br />https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52009463<br /><br />England's infection rate compared to here is really stark. For the same number of initial infections, they'd ballooned to 8 times the number of deaths / infections (3+ weeks earlier) as Scotland by this point. The gap continues to grow.Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-44520441033568913912020-04-14T13:42:54.851+01:002020-04-14T13:42:54.851+01:00Private hospital deal with NHS England was done at...Private hospital deal with NHS England was done at cost- not sure about deals with the NHS in other nations:<br />https://www.nursingtimes.net/news/coronavirus/nhs-brokers-deal-with-private-hospitals-to-gain-10000-nurses-23-03-2020/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-23811015675051241242020-04-14T13:33:44.335+01:002020-04-14T13:33:44.335+01:00Donald Macaskill, CEO of Scottish Care is standing...Donald Macaskill, CEO of Scottish Care is standing by the comments made on Kaye Adams that Public Health England have instructed PPE firms not to supply Scotland or Wales. At least one PPE firm has explicitly confirmed this on their website.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-84646808188199726002020-04-14T13:27:14.780+01:002020-04-14T13:27:14.780+01:00Lucky pig!Lucky pig!Big Eater From Perthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-78665011138059734522020-04-14T13:25:30.137+01:002020-04-14T13:25:30.137+01:00This lockdown's not all bad.
Nosing around in...<br />This lockdown's not all bad.<br /><br />Nosing around in the fridges I got a luxury cottage pie and some garlic bread for a total of £1.26 in Tesco yesterday.<br />The Lord Of 5G Towersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-43647299584206531062020-04-14T13:23:59.897+01:002020-04-14T13:23:59.897+01:00A journalist just asked Nicola Sturgeon about this...A journalist just asked Nicola Sturgeon about this on the Scot gov press briefing, saying care homes are telling them than this was happening. And to be fair, incredibly, it was a journalist from Reporting Scotland.<br /><br />Unfortunately the second the First Minister started to give her answer, the BBC switched off the sound and had a presenter talk over her, so I couldn't learn what the answer was. The BBC then quickly cut back to the studio.<br /><br />Does anyone know where we can get an unedited version of these press briefings? Getting this information is going to be very important, particulatly for those of us working in care or with relatives in care homes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-555135594987036092020-04-14T13:19:47.097+01:002020-04-14T13:19:47.097+01:00Just got round to reading last week's Private ...Just got round to reading last week's Private Eye and saw news item about Private hospitals getting tons of money for taking on NHS overflow virus patients. Of course they should be doing this but lots of businesses are not getting anywhere near the support promised but somehow private hospitals are making a very fat profit on this - they should be getting no more than needed to match losses. I suspect ministers and other Tories have investment in this lot.stu machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03894646924470900619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-25628309001026967172020-04-14T12:38:40.173+01:002020-04-14T12:38:40.173+01:00Well this has taken a bit of a twist. The Natioana...Well this has taken a bit of a twist. The Natioanal ran with the story. BBC have responded, calling it "a claim by the National" and reporting denials from the UK gov and Jason Leitch, who just said publically that this claim is "rubbish".<br /><br />Except... at the same time The Times Scotland have also gone with the story, claiming it's true. And, unlike the BBC, they've contacted one of the actual suppliers, who have confirmed its true. On top of this they are also showing screenshots of the suppliers' website, where it is written in black and white that they are now only supplying to Public Health England, with - quite literally - the phrase "sorry Scotland and Wales".<br /><br />I'm sorry but this is propaganda designed to cover up a situation for, presumably, political reasons - a situation that is threatening the lives of our carers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-8166386950252750632020-04-14T10:52:54.753+01:002020-04-14T10:52:54.753+01:00The closer you are to England - the second most in...The closer you are to England - the second most infected country in Europe - worse things are?<br /><br />Northern Ireland didn't see the flood of infected international arrivals from England just before the lockdown, which may well be where the difference comes from. It's not a holiday home destination outside of Rangers circles. <br /><br />For Scotland, 1 new infected case arriving from Windsor at the highland holiday home is the equivalent of 10 in England per capita. <br /><br />It's certainly going to be a problem if Scotland unlocks earlier than England. It needs to be able to quarantine intentional arrivals, including at Gretna. Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-12289241591223300112020-04-14T10:35:24.962+01:002020-04-14T10:35:24.962+01:00Upto 3rd April deaths/1,000,000 based on Covid cer...Upto 3rd April deaths/1,000,000 based on Covid certificated deaths:<br /><br />England :106<br />Wales: 75<br />Scotland: 63<br />NI: 29Adamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-10189924905486012222020-04-14T10:24:35.353+01:002020-04-14T10:24:35.353+01:00Indeed. Poor, bitter, angry Covidia. Its Trumpian,...Indeed. Poor, bitter, angry Covidia. Its Trumpian, toddler-like rages are hilarious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-75293148232669350712020-04-14T10:23:45.293+01:002020-04-14T10:23:45.293+01:00ONS data for England & Wales out deaths upto 0...ONS data for England & Wales out deaths upto 03/04<br /><br />England :5979 vs 3939 daily figures (+2040 52%)<br />Wales: 236 vs 141 daily figures (+95 67%)<br /><br />England 383 deaths outside hospital (207 in care homes)<br />|Wales 157 deaths outside hospital (9 in care homes)<br /><br /><br />Adamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-40822152750611305292020-04-14T10:01:49.549+01:002020-04-14T10:01:49.549+01:00Someone got oot the wrang side o their scratcher.Someone got oot the wrang side o their scratcher.Scottish Skierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584099659760612109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-12230691501909192212020-04-14T08:47:42.671+01:002020-04-14T08:47:42.671+01:00Smaller countries like Estonia can move more swift...Smaller countries like Estonia can move more swiftly.<br />Scotland is not fully utilising that ad vantage by being in lock step with England.<br />Jason Leitch seems too keen on this strategy. <br />Nicola Sturgeon is right to say the exit plan may be different from RUK. <br />Testing and tracing contacts was the best [Who] recommendation. <br />Vetoed by London. Imposed de facto on Scotland. <br />ramstamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10764651142754131538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-78499954477543220672020-04-14T08:17:40.035+01:002020-04-14T08:17:40.035+01:00There is also very large variation within Sweden. ...There is also very large variation within Sweden. The metropolitan Stocholm area has many more deaths and infections than anywherw else in Sweden, even Malmø and Gøteborg<br />norwaywalkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04359933785905578265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-2339893876469654262020-04-14T06:49:22.301+01:002020-04-14T06:49:22.301+01:00Some good points there Martin. My daughter tested ...Some good points there Martin. My daughter tested positive here in Estonia and during her mandatory 14-day self-quarantine she was contacted by the police twice. This was not in a threatening manner but in a spirit of, 1. do you understand what's going on and why?, 2. is there any assistance that we can offer?, 3. is there anyone we can contact for you?<br /><br />The whole affair in too wee, too poor, too stupid Estonia has been pretty well managed. The imposition of state of emergency was thought by many to be rather alarmist and early but the authorities have been proven correct by their prompt and decisive action. Early suggestions are that this action has broken the back of the virus spread with new cases dropping day by day and deaths becoming relatively few. Testing has been completed on approximately 2.5% of the population with testing available for anyone who presents with suspected symptoms and the case-fatality ratio is 2.1% compared to 12.5%+ in the UK. Contact tracing has been operated to an extent and my own daughter's case was predicted by this method a day or two ahead of her diagnosis.<br /><br />One particularly unique social distancing technique in Tallinn has been the decision of the City Government to extend public transport frequency and NOT curtail it. This has resulted in safe use of buses, trams, trains due to very sparsely occupied vehicles. But that is exactly the aim.PhilInTallinnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-55470931757435343302020-04-14T00:47:59.374+01:002020-04-14T00:47:59.374+01:00The first think both SG and UKGov should do is dit...The first think both SG and UKGov should do is ditch all their scientific advisers. UKGov should also ditch their CMO and deputy CMO.<br />Then they should look at what Austria, Germany, Denmark, Norway and Slovenia are doing. North Korea, Taiwan and New Zealand never had that many cases and had manageable clusters - so they can't be of much help.<br />But - we are so far behind in terms of loosening the lockdown preparations that we can't just catch up - lockdown is probably to stay for some time. In those countries the whole scientific community (from sociologists to epidemiologists) is engaged in advising the governments on what the next steps should be and is also communicating that to the public. <br />Two most important things will be testing and contact tracing. Germany is now saying it will have to do 500.000 to 600.000 tests every day once the lockdown is loosened. UK should be doing then about 400.000 to 450.000 tests every day. Scotland should be doing about 35.000. Just for comparison - UK hasn't done that many tests all together from the beginning (and now it should them in a day?).<br />Contact tracing has been completely abandoned in the UK (and Scotland unfortunately) in mid March. But - contact tracing is crucial if we are to loosen the lockdown. Every positive person's contacts have to be traced within a 12 hours window (so we need to have teams of people in every council doing just this) and those people should be put into isolation and then tested as well. Isolation has to be mandatory and enforced by police (i.e. - police checking up that people are in isolation). So - once we loosen up the lockdown we'll probably have about 5% of population who will be in isolation at every time for some time - either because they are positive or have been in contact with someone who is positive.<br /> Martinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-17394122900222247702020-04-14T00:30:11.653+01:002020-04-14T00:30:11.653+01:00Also heard this from somebody on the inside. Suppl...Also heard this from somebody on the inside. Suppliers not honouring promises to Scotland's NHS. England being prioritised over Scotland and Wales.<br />This isn't getting out to the MSM. Or maybe it's just not news.<br />Up to now Rabb and Hancock look out of their debth compared to Nicola Sturgeon and her team. <br />Time to speak out though on the inequity of PPE and medical supplies. <br />Either we're in a Union where we benefit from pooling or we're in a pecking order where England always wins. ramstamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10764651142754131538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-43789645541949952302020-04-14T00:25:29.722+01:002020-04-14T00:25:29.722+01:00Purves is a pure wee knob end. Knickerless is foll...Purves is a pure wee knob end. Knickerless is following the same advise as advised by the UK health experts.<br />You Nazi scum are just ignoring respect for the dead from this viris and playing the long game of politics. I doubt a hand wash can be<br />Invented to remove Nat si scum. GWCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-930120922627919768.post-13526066008150675302020-04-13T23:50:23.082+01:002020-04-13T23:50:23.082+01:00Good post, James.Good post, James.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com