Monday, April 24, 2017

Some more information about the Panelbase poll

The datasets for Saturday night's Panelbase poll have been published, and the big surprise is that it appears as if 16 and 17 year olds were included in the sample.  At one point, the poll was listed on Wikipedia as definitely excluding under-18s, so if that was dud information, my apologies for repeating it here.

Looked at one way, this is bad news, because it means there's less reason for suspecting that the 45% Yes vote on the independence question may be a slight underestimate.  It also means that, if anything, the SNP's share of the vote in Westminster voting intentions could be a slight overestimate - because of course, young people are disproportionately likely to support the SNP, and under-18s won't be able to vote in June.  However, here comes the good news - both Yes and the SNP suffered in this poll from the effect of rounding.  It looks like the SNP must have been just a tiny fraction away from being rounded up to 45%, rather than rounded down to 44%.  The Tories were also rounded up a touch to 33%.  On the unrounded numbers, the SNP lead over the Tories is a little over 11.5%, rather than the 11% reported on the headline numbers.  The effect of rounding on the independence question was less significant, but nevertheless the unrounded numbers are a tad better : Yes 45.2%, No 54.8%.

Once again, the extent to which the rump Labour vote under Jim Murphy in 2015 was Tory-leaning has been laid bare by this poll - less than half of 2015 Labour voters are planning to stick with the party, while almost a quarter have moved direct to the Tories.  Only 8% have moved to the SNP.  It would be fascinating to ask the 13% of the electorate that are still sticking with Labour who their second-choice party would be.  That group is so small in number that it's hard to even guess who they are and what motivates them.  It certainly doesn't seem to be a 'working class' thing, though - Labour's support is only a little higher among the less affluent part of the sample than among the most affluent.  As you'd expect, they do significantly better among No voters from 2014, although mystifyingly, 8% of Yes voters have stayed loyal to them.  (On the plus side, that means there may still be some limited scope for a further Labour-to-SNP swing, unless that 8% is composed almost entirely of people who have changed their minds on independence since the referendum.)

102 comments:

  1. The question is, why were 16-17 year olds included considering most of them won't be allowed to vote in the GE anyway?

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    1. Kipper Theresa and her westminster bubble fraudstersApril 24, 2017 at 8:57 PM

      Dunny Gordon‏ @DunGor64 27m

      All these Tories being investigated by police.

      The real reason behind the election call. #SNP17 #ToriesOut

      #toryelectionfraud pic.twitter.com/MFa4m7sJf8

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  2. I have a feeling that this indyref2 will come sooner than expected. If the French and German elections produce a unified Eurpean approach to Brexit, and Theresa May gets her enlarged majority in the Commons, we are looking at a no deal Brexit. Soonest we can expect this is after the Bundestag election. It may sound crazy but I don't think this situation can be ruled out.

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    1. We are oot and that is decided. If the EU play silly buggers then that is up to them. Hard brexit will suffice and WTO rules will apply. You Nat sis are not all that happy with democracy are you? Unless of course you get the answer you want to hear. You could have put Mac in front of Hassan and given us a laugh.

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    2. Let's face it, this situation regarding the EU and brexit is now out of the hands not only of the voters but also the people we think of as our leaders. People with brains the size of planets will thrash all this out, guided by the shadow government that operates behind and under the visible political class. The likely result? EU membership in all but name. I really feel that's the way its going. Bad for Scottish independence, but also bad for British independence.

      If you want more information, you can get it at infowars.com ;0)))))

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    3. Colostomybag Vance PredictsApril 24, 2017 at 8:37 PM

      "The undecideds and the bottlers will put it in the back of the net for 'remain'. I'm sure Cameron also has a few tricks up his sleeve to deploy in the dying days of the campaign."

      Carlotta 'Aldo' Vance
      ;O))))))

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    4. Kipper Theresa and her westminster bubble incompetentsApril 24, 2017 at 8:41 PM

      Theresa Maybe‏ @Theresa__Maybe Apr 18

      Of course I haven't agreed to do TV debates. I might need the time to visit our MPs in prison.

      #electionexpenses

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  3. A conversation with a typical 16 year old.

    Which party do you support?

    SNP

    And would you like an independent Scotland?

    Yes please!

    What do you think of the conservatives?

    Scum

    Last question then you can take a rest - have you ever voted?

    Naw. I wanted to but I was tired and then I was horny. So I never made it to ra police station.

    Polling station.

    Soz. My bad.

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    1. Alternatively, "I wanted to vote in the general election, but the Tories decided it was against the law. They said 'you're old enough to pay us taxes, but not to vote. Soz.'"

      Clearly you're no more a fan of young people than you are of women, Aldo. Who do you actually like? Eric Pickles?

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    2. Carlotta Colostomybag PredictsApril 24, 2017 at 8:36 PM

      "The undecideds and the bottlers will put it in the back of the net for 'remain'. I'm sure Cameron also has a few tricks up his sleeve to deploy in the dying days of the campaign."

      Carlotta 'Aldo' Vance

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    3. Stormfront Lite's human garbageApril 24, 2017 at 8:49 PM

      Yoons hate Scotland so much they even hate English people who move there.

      pic.twitter.com/4X7vd6mjU8

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    4. Rape Clause Ruth and her revolting kipper toriesApril 24, 2017 at 8:50 PM

      Paul Kavanagh‏ @weegingerdug 18 minutes ago

      The hypocrisy of Scottish Tories summed up in a single photo op. Posing on a mobility scooter while taking mobility cars off the disabled.

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    5. Ten year olds pay tax when they spend their pocket money. What next - give them the vote?

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    6. Kipper Theresa and her westminster bubble fraudstersApril 24, 2017 at 8:59 PM

      Daniel Blake‏ @moranrisin 28 minutes ago

      The Home Secretary just got some really bad news about Tory election fraud

      https://www.thecanary.co/2017/04/24/the-home-secretary-just-got-some-really-bad-news-about-tory-election-fraud/ … via @thecanarysays #toryelectionfraud

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  4. Trolls are out.....

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    1. I laughed at their comments, they really think they are intelligent folk yet they are knuckledraggers, the kind of folk who decent intelligent folk wouldn't ever crawl down to their level. They are seen as a joke but also, for us in Yes, when unsure folk read these nasty, ignorant and beyond pathetic unintelligent comments,it helps decent unsure and No voters re-consider which side they are on....being dragged out of EU and being classed alongside far-right, fascist, racist ignoramuses who crawl the gutters or you stand beside the grown ups who want Indy and stay within the single market/EU. More than ANYTHING, I want my country to be as far apart i.e, another country where power in England cannot EVER touch Scotland again and if these knuckledragging, unintelligent thugs, yep, that's what I see them as, these fascist, racist thugs can rot away in a Brexit...not sure what you will be able to call England and Wales after Scotland leave but I'm sure plenty of us have great names all ready. Trolls = idiotic knuckledraggers who if they had a brain, would read back their drivel they write and see why we laugh at them,then be thankful we are on the far opposite side, the side with brains.

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    2. Given most of the comments on here are repeated twitter reposts by a sweary obsessive, or stock copy/paste spam that some zoomer keeps saved on Notepad, I'm not sure your lot are coming off much better to be honest.

      GWC may be annoying, but it's obvious to anyone with half a brain that he's just trolling you all for his own jollies.

      But your resident frother makes some of you guys look like the lunatic fringe. Which is a shame, because most Indy supporters are thoroughly nice people.

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    3. The 'resident frother' - by that I assume you mean the angry autistic guy formerly known as Mick Pork who has gone off his trolley in quite an embarrassing way in the last two years - is a perfect representation of nationalism. Angry, thick, chip on shoulder, misguided notions of being more intelligent or more enlightened than others when actually as thick as a plank. Yes, perfect representation. Keep up the good work Mick. Mind and stop now and again to ask your mum for a sandwich.

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    4. I do mean Mick Pork, but I'm not so churlish as to consider him as representative of anything, really.

      He's just a nutcase. You get them all over, if he wasn't Scottish he'd be just as mental about something else. I think Indy is just his obsession of choice really.

      That and the whole 'everyone is secretly an agent of the website Political Betting' fantasy. And the mental swearing, of course. Always the sign of a well balanced mind.

      But the local commenters like him, you could bite the head off a live bat round here so long as you wore a Yes badge while you did it.

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    5. Ha! Yes, his paranoia really is something to behold. I am aware of the PB website. Never been on it, never contributed. But I assume they're centre-right and therefore appear fascist to leftwing nutbags.

      It really does satisfy me on an almost sexual level that Mick Pork wakes up every morning in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Yes, you are right, there are decent yessers. But the actions of people like Mick condemn them all to failure.

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    6. I hadn't seen it until I started reading here, but Mick kept talking about 'Stormfront Lite' so I visited it back in 2014. I read it infrequently, it's sorta rightish with a handful of mild lefties. Nothing like as extreme as Guido or Wings, it seems to be mainly middle aged, middle class middle Englanders talking about Betfair.

      The guy who runs it shills pretty hard for the Lib Dems, so it's not like it's a hotbed of extremism. More warm beer and cardigans, really.

      Maybe it was really radical 5+ years ago or something. I dunno. From Micks rants I gather he got banned, presumably for being sweary and bonkers. Hence the hate.

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    7. And so he just came over here and destroyed this place, lol! In a way its quite flattering to have my age old predictions of things that never panned out quoted after every post. Most people quote Churchill or industrial giants or literary greats. Mick quotes me. He probably secretly yearns he could do a degree in Aldo studies. He'd learn a thing or two about politics!

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    8. Daily Mail Aldo and his westmisnter bubble of ignoranceApril 25, 2017 at 1:47 AM

      Aldo pastes conversation with himself as 'Anonymous' and calls someone else a nutter.

      You couldn't make it up.

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    9. Farron's Yellow ToriesApril 25, 2017 at 2:04 AM

      Phantom Power‏ @PhantomPower14 10h

      Liar Alistair Carmichael said he wouldn't stand for Orkney and Shetland seat again. He's standing.

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    10. GWC2 Fitalass ChristinaDApril 25, 2017 at 2:12 AM

      "GWC may be annoying, but it's obvious to anyone with half a brain that he's just trolling you all for his own jollies."

      Actually it's obvious to anyone with half a brain you're full of shit since..

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, arbitrary deportations and public mutilations, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial, homophobic and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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    11. Hahahahaaa! Caught Red Handed Lying through your teeth 'Aldo'April 25, 2017 at 3:22 AM

      I am aware of the PB website. Never been on it, never contributed. But I assume they're centre-right and therefore appear fascist to leftwing nutbags.

      It really does satisfy me on an almost sexual level that Mick Pork

      You were too stupid to even realise that you did it, which just makes it that much more hilarious. :D

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    12. GWC2 Fitalass ChristinaDApril 25, 2017 at 3:39 AM

      I may be a repulsive old hag twisted by hate and filled with fear but I certainly agree with you fellow far-right zoomer

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    13. Colostomybag VanceApril 25, 2017 at 3:43 AM

      I agree with your agreement fellow britain firster, and that has nothing to do with me also being a scare-the-weans old biddy scowling at brown people and spitting venom at anyone my Daily Mail tells me to

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    14. Look everyone, Porkie's managed to take a comment out of content to create a mildly amusing new comment. Gold star for Mick.

      It'll be the only thing he's ever won.

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  5. Being a gay man from Govan I fear independence will be too large for me to take. I'm very tight.

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    1. The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, arbitrary deportations and public mutilations, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial, homophobic and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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    2. These Knuckledragging trolls are unaware that calling any Scot in a derogatory tone a "Jock" is being racist and under the Race Discrimination Act 2010, being offensive and discriminatory against a person's Nationality or National Origin is a crime in same way as being racially abusive to black, gay or Muslim people.

      Law in Scotland is different and according to our Police Scotland, if someone is offended by what they see as racism against Scottish Nationality or calling us Jocks is seen in same way as racist and bigoted names like "P*ki" and the N word. Scottish Police will come out and investigate, if they deem it racist, there is no warning not to do it again.....a racist towards Scots and all the other minority groups included in the Discrimination Act of 2010 is charged. https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/scotland/law-and-courts/discrimination/protected-characteristics/race-discrimination/

      I reported an English racist against Scots to his local police station, I received call from their police the following night with an apology and a crime number, he had been given a warning in English law but had he been abusive again, I would call up and quote crime number and he would have been arrested. He wasn't so dumb, he shut his racist mouth. The days of English folk getting away with racist abuse are long gone.

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    3. I grew up half English in the North of Scotland. Some of your civic and joyous Nationalist neighbours would make UKIP blush.

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    4. But what if you meant 'jock' as in fit and sporty male? Then its a compliment!

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    5. What if you meant tory as in ignorant racist bigot? Then it's Aldo!

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    6. 50% in the UK, 33% in Scotland. The tories are on the march! Thats a lot of 'ignorant racist bigots' - or it might just be you who is the ignorant one.

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  6. Kipper Theresa and her westminster bubble incompetentsApril 24, 2017 at 8:44 PM

    Unlock Democracy‏ @UnlockDemocracy 10 hours ago

    Charges against at least 30 Tory MPs and agents are still being consider by the CPS http://www.unlockdemocracy.org/blog/election-expenses-fraud-implications-general-election-2017 … #ge2017 #electionexpenses

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  7. Rape Clause Ruth and her revolting kipper toriesApril 24, 2017 at 8:47 PM

    Solomon Clarke‏ @TheSolClarke 9h

    Mundell who has a majority of <800 and is under investigation for election fraud shouts "dumb bitch" at Yvette C. Hope the SNP clear him out

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  8. Rape Clause Ruth and her revolting kipper toriesApril 24, 2017 at 8:51 PM

    Frank Zola @mrfrankzola

    Tories confirm pensioner back door bedroom tax of £1500+ per year

    https://speye.wordpress.com/2017/03/14/tories-confirms-pensioner-back-door-bedroom-tax-of-1500-per-year/ …

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    1. Lol - smell the fear! ;0)

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    2. Kipper Theresa and her westminster bubble fraudstersApril 24, 2017 at 9:11 PM

      Lol -smell the fear ;O)

      Richard Findlay @RichardFindlay

      Election Expenses: New emails show more members of PM's top team involved

      https://www.channel4.com/news/election-expenses-new-emails-show-more-members-of-pms-top-team-involved … via @Channel4News

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    3. Kipper Theresa and her westminster bubble fraudstersApril 24, 2017 at 9:13 PM

      Lol - smell the fear ;o)

      33 Constituencies Involved

      29 Tory MPs Implicated

      10 Police Forces Investigating


      C4 #FactCheck

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    4. No one cares about a political party overspending private money. After the election, it'll be quietly dropped.

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    5. Kipper Theresa and her westminster bubble fraudstersApril 24, 2017 at 9:15 PM

      Lol - smell the fear ;o)

      A sitting MP convicted of an 'illegal or corrupt' electoral practice loses seat. Automatic - no judicial discretion.

      http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1983/2/section/173 …


      A C Grayling Verified account @acgrayling

      Representation of the People Act 1983 III.173: electoral fraud:

      'if already elected to a seat in the House of Commons shall vacate the seat'

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    6. Kipper Theresa and her westminster bubble fraudstersApril 24, 2017 at 9:17 PM

      Lol -smell the fear ;o)

      Tory whistleblowers accuse Conservatives of 'huge betrayal' of electorate over expenses

      https://www.channel4.com/news/tory-whistleblowers-election-expenses-conservative-party-battlebus … via @Channel4News


      Tory activists accuse their own party of lying about 2015 election expenses

      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/conservative-party-election-expenses-scandal-battlebus2015-david-cameron-theresa-may-a7621731.html

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    7. Kipper Theresa and her westminster bubble fraudstersApril 24, 2017 at 9:18 PM

      Lol - smell the fear ;o)

      C4 News @FactCheck

      Senior Tories have been defending the party over #electionexpenses — but their defence doesn’t stack up:

      https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-tory-election-expenses-defence-doesnt-stand-up

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    8. Channel 4 news is a lefty channel that pursues political vendettas rather than real news.

      Its private money - meaning no one actually really cares. And when the Tories get returned with a landslide majority having stuck to the letter of the law, even fewer people will give a toss.

      Failing that, they're the government - they can pardon themselves ;0)

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    9. Kipper Theresa and her westminster bubble fraudstersApril 24, 2017 at 9:24 PM

      Lol - smell the fear ;o)

      It is a criminal offence to fail to declare spending by candidates and their electoral agents during a campaign.

      It can carry a maximum penalty of one year in jail, or there could be fines.

      Two years ago four people went to jail for voting irregularities during a 2012 poll at Maybury and Sheerwater, an area which had been causing suspicion for some time.

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    10. Lol - smell the fear ;o)April 24, 2017 at 9:25 PM

      Its private money - meaning no one actually really cares.

      Two years ago four people went to jail for voting irregularities during a 2012 poll at Maybury and Sheerwater, an area which had been causing suspicion for some time.

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    11. Lol - smell the fear ;o)April 24, 2017 at 9:26 PM

      Its private money - meaning no one actually really cares.

      A sitting MP convicted of an 'illegal or corrupt' electoral practice loses seat. Automatic - no judicial discretion.

      http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1983/2/section/173 …


      A C Grayling Verified account @acgrayling

      Representation of the People Act 1983 III.173: electoral fraud:

      'if already elected to a seat in the House of Commons shall vacate the seat'

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    12. You're not quite normal are you?

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    13. Things that out of touch twits clutching at straws might sayApril 24, 2017 at 9:30 PM

      Everyone does it, it's not a huge thing.

      Chris Huhne and Vicky Pryce each jailed for eight months

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    14. Things that out of touch twits clutching at straws might sayApril 24, 2017 at 9:32 PM

      It was the system made me do it.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_parliamentary_expenses_scandal

      It was announced on 5 February 2010 that criminal charges of false accounting were to be prosecuted against four parliamentarians, all later jailed.

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    15. It's been two years with no action. A fresh general election makes action even less likely. But I know you are desperate and fearful so fire away by all means. Whatever makes you feel better.

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    16. Lol - smell the fear ;o)April 24, 2017 at 9:42 PM

      You're a bit of a far-right simpleton aren't you?

      April 18

      The Crown Prosecution Service say they are considering charging 30 Tory MPs & Advisors over Electoral Fraud in the next couple of weeks

      pic.twitter.com/TgGCTdZpLi

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    17. This is the kind of thing that's bound to work ;o)April 24, 2017 at 9:52 PM

      /S The Conservatives‏ @votecon2017 4 minutes ago

      We may have committed general election fraud before - but remember, we did it all for you, the tax-paying UK general public. #GE2017

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    18. Kipper Theresa and her westminster bubble incompetentsApril 24, 2017 at 10:14 PM

      Earlier this year, Tory chief General Election strategist Lynton Crosby carried out polling in constituencies caught up in the election expenses affair over breaking strict spending rules.


      Which Hideaway May did for a laugh you understand.

      Certainly not because she knows she has no control at all over dozens of criminal cases where the evidence was, in quite a few cases, not only written down in expenses claims but plastered all over the witless MPs twitter accounts.

      This beard-munching dipshit, for instance, is in no way a shining example of the kind of calibre of tory under police investigation and praying to god nobody notices him.

      Tory Expenses - Mundell Miracle

      http://zelo-street.blogspot.co.uk/2016/05/tory-expenses-mundell-miracle.html

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    19. Simpleton? You're the one posting endless incoherent crap in support of a lost cause. Compared to you I'm a fecking genius.

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    20. Daily Mail Aldo, Stromfront Lite's 'Finest' LOLApril 24, 2017 at 11:18 PM

      "incoherent crap"

      Earlier this year, Tory chief General Election strategist Lynton Crosby carried out polling in constituencies caught up in the election expenses affair over breaking strict spending rules.

      April 18

      The Crown Prosecution Service say they are considering charging 30 Tory MPs & Advisors over Electoral Fraud in the next couple of weeks.


      Would you prefer it written down in crayon you shit-for-brains tory twat?

      So do everyone a favour and piss off back to Stormfront Lite.

      A Daily Mail worshipping dimwit like yourself can shriek your hatred of foreigners and poor people to your hearts content over there.

      Your galactic scale ignorance will also go unnoticed and unremarked on by the far-right fruitcakes that populate PB.

      Here though, it is blindingly obvious you don't have the first fucking clue what you're talking about and are a wee bit 'dolly dimple', to say the least.

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    21. Did I hit a nerve? Listen mate, you're obviously not the full shilling but if you want to appear clever I'll give you some advice - don't back political positions that place you on the same side as chavs and losers. Also, don't repeat the same insults ad infinitum - get some new ones. I could help you with that. Also, don't get angry at me, its not my fault you were born a reject.

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    22. Daily Mail Aldo, Stormfront Lite's 'Finest' LOLApril 24, 2017 at 11:54 PM

      "No one cares about a political party overspending private money."

      What part of this comprehensive list of consequences was just too complex for your tiny Daily Mail mind to process?

      33 Constituencies Involved

      29 Tory MPs Implicated

      10 Police Forces Investigating

      The Crown Prosecution Service say they are considering charging 30 Tory MPs & Advisors over Electoral Fraud in the next couple of weeks.


      It's not incoherent just because you self-evidently don't have a fucking clue about politics or what a criminal investigation is.

      It merely underlines that you a dopey far-right bigot like yourself clearly isn't bright enough to understand the ramifications or what a criminal investigation actually means.

      I am however vastly amused at how quickly a racist hate-filled bigot like yourself resorts to your 'big book of Daily Mail' insults' in the complete absence of anything approaching an intellect or shred of humanity.

      So by all means keep shrieking your witless tory hatred and fear out for all to see on this scottish independence polling blog.

      It's not as if you are confirming every single tory stereotype imaginable. Or that Rape Clause Ruth's far-right Nasty party is supported by out of touch bigoted racists and incompetent clueless twats.

      ROFL!!

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    23. Carlotta Colostomybag PredictsApril 24, 2017 at 11:58 PM

      "The undecideds and the bottlers will put it in the back of the net for 'remain'. I'm sure Cameron also has a few tricks up his sleeve to deploy in the dying days of the campaign."

      'Aldo' GWC2

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    24. Lol - definitely hit a nerve!

      Mick, what is it like being such a loser and a twat? I really am fascinated by the depths of despair you must feel. At least mummy loves you though, eh?

      Or does she? :0(

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    25. CRUSH THE SABOTEURSApril 25, 2017 at 12:08 AM

      NO ONE CARES!! PRIVATE MONEY! NO ONE CARES! CHAVS! GENERAL ELECTION!! LOSER!! REJECT CHAV!? SHRIEEEEEEK!!

      a real intellectual powerhouse we got here folks ;O)

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    26. Daily Mail Aldo, Stromfront Lite's 'Finest' LOLApril 25, 2017 at 12:12 AM

      "Also, don't repeat the same insults ad infinitum - get some new ones"

      Very next post

      "definitely hit a nerve!" "loser"

      It's pure comedy gold because it's clearly foaming at the mouth with impotent rage and simply too thick to know it's even doing it.

      Completely oblivious.

      Hahahahahahahahaaaa!!!

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    27. A winner is what you have here Mick, unlike a whiny wee sore loser with mental problems like yourself. It must be your bedtime by now surely? I hope I'm not paying you spaz money just so you can sit up all night making a tit of yourself!

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    28. Rape Clause Ruth and her revolting kipper toriesApril 25, 2017 at 12:25 AM

      This is the kind of person Aldo and Ruth Davidson's tories label a loser, chav and reject.

      Remember that when you vote at the Council elections and General Election.


      Grab a cuppa.

      After being angry all day since I saw pics of Ruth using a mobility charity as photo op, I want to bore you with my story. /1

      https://twitter.com/NiceConvos/status/856624579619561472

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    29. "Rape clause" = "give victims of rape free money".

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    30. Rape Clause Ruth and her revolting kipper toriesApril 25, 2017 at 1:09 AM

      Who do scottish women trust to know the facts and consequences of the tory rape-clause legislation?

      A far-right fruitcake like Aldo and Ruth Davidson's tories or Rape Crisis Scotland?

      Rape Crisis Scotland‏ @rapecrisisscot Apr 20

      'Just because you've been raped does not mean you should lose access to privacy & human rights. We will continue to fight this' #rapeclause


      Not exactly a difficult choice, is it?

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  9. I have read a few things that the EU could offload the UK by September without a deal. May wants to railroad WM into this. Hence the need for a majority. She is going to sail Britania off to the wilderness. She has enemies in Scotland, N Eire and the EU. She wants to take the EU out of the picture and then bully Scotland.

    We may have our referendum in November.

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    1. Lol - smell the fear ;o)April 24, 2017 at 9:33 PM

      Tim Fenton? @zelo_street 3

      Tory Expenses, Bullying, And The PM: @theresa_may caught up in two party scandals via disgraced organiser

      http://zelo-street.blogspot.co.uk/2017/03/tory-expenses-bullying-and-pm.html

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    2. Carlotta ColostomybagApril 24, 2017 at 9:35 PM

      "The undecideds and the bottlers will put it in the back of the net for 'remain'. I'm sure Cameron also has a few tricks up his sleeve to deploy in the dying days of the campaign."

      Carlotta 'Aldo' Vance ;O))))))

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    3. We British can deal with enemies of the Realm. Give the Jocks subsidised whisky and the Paddies whiskey. Peace in our time.

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    4. The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, arbitrary deportations and public mutilations, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial, homophobic and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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  10. Nat si fash still where they were and Knickerkess pretending to be trade union friendly while cutting public services and the Jock rich getting richer. Great being a Tartan Tory.

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    1. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandApril 24, 2017 at 9:36 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, arbitrary deportations and public mutilations, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial, homophobic and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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    2. This must be the most posted post in posting history of posting by an individual poster who is dedicated to posting on behalf of English hating Scottish fascism. In short a wanker.

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    3. The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, arbitrary deportations and public mutilations, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial, homophobic and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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  11. Red Tories Down and OUTApril 24, 2017 at 9:36 PM

    Adam Ramsay @AdamRamsay Apr 19

    Met a Labour staffer in London this evening. Said she hopes Scotland elects Tory MPs to keep the SNP out, coz Labour's stuffed w/o Scotland.

    She didn't know that I was either Scottish or a journalist. Just blurted it out like it's an obvious opinion for a Labour staffer to have.

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    1. You won't get me I'm a True Blue Tory Yoon son, till the day I dieApril 24, 2017 at 9:38 PM

      Helen @couper40 16h

      Slab have really reached rock bottom when Ian Murray is asking labour voters to vote Tory.

      He should hang his head in shame.#VoteSNP #GE17

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  12. Rape Clause Ruth and her revolting kipper toriesApril 24, 2017 at 9:45 PM

    Ross Colquhoun‏Verified account @rosscolquhoun 1h

    I'm genuinely disgusted by this. @RuthDavidsonMSP knows what brutal Tory cuts are doing to disabled people in rUK. #GE17 pic.twitter.com/tct2UjUN1i

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    1. The Nat sis are a disgusting bunch of hypocrites using the disabled for lying vile propoganda. Bunch of Nat si scumbags.

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    2. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandApril 24, 2017 at 10:28 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, arbitrary deportations and public mutilations, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial, homophobic and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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    3. Rape Clause Ruth and her revolting kipper toriesApril 24, 2017 at 10:32 PM

      Bedroom tax appeal ruling: Supreme Court says Government acted unlawfully towards disabled campaigners

      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/bedroom-tax-appeal-ruling-disabled-campaigners-government-acted-unlawfully-iain-duncan-smith-a7406951.html

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    4. Nat sis said they would top up any deficit in benefits without any additional subsidies from the English taxpayer.

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    5. The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, arbitrary deportations and public mutilations, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial, homophobic and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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  13. Rape Clause Ruth and her revolting kipper toriesApril 24, 2017 at 10:21 PM

    Frank Zola @mrfrankzola

    Tories confirm pensioner back door bedroom tax of £1500+ per year

    https://speye.wordpress.com/2017/03/14/tories-confirms-pensioner-back-door-bedroom-tax-of-1500-per-year/ …

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  14. I doubt anyone wades this far down through the morass of GWC and Mick Pork spam, but I shall ask anyway.

    Do we know what happens if the election fraud charges stick? Do the seats go to the second place candidate, or is it a re-run?

    New election notwithstanding, of course. If its the former then thats a big deal, it means they would have lost their majority. If its the latter, are we just swapping 30 Tory MPs for 30 different Tory MPs to no real effect?

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    1. Look fascists just stop trying diggin dirt, go out and campaign on your anti working class Tartan Tory Thatcherite record.

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    2. Not SNP or Tory, sorry. Anyway, I thought you were meant to be Labour? Shouldn't you be all in favour of this investigation?

      If you're gonna troll, at least try and stay in character.

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    3. Due to the fresh election, any charges will be historical and therefore largely pointless. They will either be dropped or lead to a token fine. The end.

      Its a sign of desperation that some individuals and sections of the media are practically wetting their pants over this. Even if the by elections had been held, the tories would have won every last contest - and then would have been gunning for those who took the decision. If you're the government, you can f*ck people up ugly. I'm not saying thats right, but it can and does happen.

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    4. Daily Mail Aldo, Stromfront Lite's 'Finest' LOLApril 25, 2017 at 1:15 AM

      "Due to the fresh election, any charges will be historical and therefore largely pointless. "

      Yes folks, that really is just how jaw-droppingly stupid being spoonfed on the opinions of the Daily Mail makes you.

      It doesn't even understand how hilariously dumb it just made itself sound. It's like watching a chimp trying to grasp quantum physics.

      PMSL

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  15. We're fucked

    Scottish independence voting intention:

    Yes: 37% (-4)
    No: 55% (+8)

    (via Kantar TNS / surveyed pre-May announcement)
    Chgs. w/ Sep 2016.

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    1. Tee hee!

      Embrace your Britishness chaps, you know you really have no choice. Be patriots and forget medieval kingdoms. Britishness is your birthright. You are extraordinary privileged and powerful yet seek to give that all away chasing a dream. No more! Join us! Together we'll be unstoppable!

      Nite gimps.

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    2. PB's own Bangkok Gary Glitter SeanT thinks it's solid so it must be

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  16. Newer polls from Panelbase, BMG and Survation have shown little difference.

    Unless TNS are alone in detecting this trend, however they've had the worst record of any pollster. Were way off in Indy Ref 1, EU Ref, GE15

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  17. I asked kezia Dugdale to lick out my anus and her tongue captured a thread worm from my anus. I'm riddled with the creatures.

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  18. Anonymous @ 12:32am. I am in favour of criminal investigation but not finding people guilty before trial! And the investigation has nothing to do with the forthcoming election.
    No doubt if it was your Nat sis being investigated then it would be a witchhunt! Now do get on with the day job of convincing the Nat sis to change their continuing Thatcherite policies.

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  19. I laughed at their comments, they really think they are intelligent folk yet they are knuckledraggers, the kind of folk who decent intelligent folk wouldn't ever crawl down to their level. They are seen as a joke but also, for us in Yes, when unsure folk read these nasty, ignorant and beyond pathetic unintelligent comments,it helps decent unsure and No voters re-consider which side they are on....being dragged out of EU and being classed alongside far-right, fascist, racist ignoramuses who crawl the gutters or you stand beside the grown ups who want Indy and stay within the single market/EU. More than ANYTHING, I want my country to be as far apart i.e, another country where power in England cannot EVER touch Scotland again and if these knuckledragging, unintelligent thugs, yep, that's what I see them as, these fascist, racist thugs can rot away in a Brexit...not sure what you will be able to call England and Wales after Scotland leave but I'm sure plenty of us have great names all ready. Trolls = idiotic knuckledraggers who if they had a brain, would read back their drivel they write and see why we laugh at them,then be thankful we are on the far opposite side, the side with brains.

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  20. Kipper Theresa and her Bumblefuck BrexitApril 25, 2017 at 2:40 AM

    "Michael Gove wanted to privatise it, Boris wanted to charge people for using it and Iain Duncan Smith wanted a social insurance system,"

    "The NHS is about as safe with them as a pet hamster would be with a hungry python."

    - Sir John Major. Former Tory Prime Minister speaking about the N.H.S.

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