Saturday, March 11, 2017

Jeremy Corbyn calls it right - but can he stand his ground in the face of Scottish Labour's intransigence?

I truly struggle to comprehend Scottish Labour, who seem to be in an unprecedented state of open revolt against their own London leadership (good) for an incredibly stupid and destructive reason (bad).  One thing that everyone seems to privately agree upon is that an independence referendum is now virtually inevitable, and that the only question mark is over the timing.  If it's coming anyway, what possible benefit is there to Scottish Labour or the future No campaign in being seen to have implicitly threatened using English MPs at Westminster to try to prevent a democratic vote taking place?  It would be an albatross around their necks, and Jeremy Corbyn is actually doing his level best to rescue them from their own stupidity. 

I wouldn't necessarily disagree with the assessment that Corbyn is "weak", but the test of that in this case will be whether he now backs down from his sensible and strategically sound comments today in the face of boneheaded Scottish Labour intransigence.

35 comments:

  1. Corbyn is undoubtedly a decent bloke who wants to help the poor. Unfortunately the majority of the British and Scots do not share his vision.
    The election of the Tories ahd Tartan Tories is proof of this. Our greedy society has got worse since post WW2.
    The general attitude is someone else should pay but not me.

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    1. Always love that 'Tartan Tories' blast from the past. It does make me chuckle.

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    2. It is reality. The Tartan Tories continue with Tory policies. Loyal Thatcherites.
      They talk a good game to the faithful who will accept anything.
      The silent left in the Tartan Tories are the real bunch of shit. Jim Sillars was different.

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    3. The poster above is a far-right racist tory sockpuppetMarch 11, 2017 at 11:54 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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  2. But the Tartan Tories didn't try to win the election.

    They ran (and won) a campaign for the "Ruth Davidson for a Strong Opposition Party" but that didn't get them elected.

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    1. Hint... The idiot GWC2 means the SNP when he calls them tartan Tories. I'd call him a troll, but he's too stupid to be a troll

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    2. Honesty is something missing from the Nat sis. And if you fash go into another referendum like the last one you will be trashed.

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    3. The troll calls Scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate speech, praises Theresa May and the Tories, and displays a perverted and poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor.

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  3. The Unionists really are in complete meltdown. Scottish Labour has nothing to offer Corbyn and Labour dependence on tactics with no substance in Scotland and England has led to them unravelling in both countries.
    Then there was a the extraordinary statement from Rennie, "My MPs in Westminster will vote against Independence", there may be some paraphrasing there but for him to talk about 'his MPs' as if he were in charge of them. He disconnect from reality is clinical.
    In NI the Unionist majority is gone which should be a warning bell for Davidson.

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    1. Rennie the DelusionalMarch 12, 2017 at 12:02 AM

      Rennie is a complete joke. Nobody takes him seriously. Least of all what is left of the Lib Dem heirarchy in Westminster.

      Rennie only cares about his own position. He will happily consign the rest of the tiny rump of the lib dems in scotland to the dustbin of history as long as he himself can personally get in the papers and on TV to self-promote the Wee Wullie Rennie Party of one.

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  4. Corbyn BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Meanwhile I have in my hand a booklet from HM Government stating that the EU referendum is (and I'm not making this up), "a once in a generation decision."

    Where does that leave Rennie and the rest of the new EU referendum crowd?

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  5. Inevitable independence but can someone please tell me where the money is going to come from?

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    1. The same place it comes from in the other nearly 200 independent nations in the world, both large and very small.

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    2. Fair Play to Daily Mail ImbecilesMarch 11, 2017 at 11:30 PM

      wot iz other independent countries!? me no understandz?

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    3. Still waiting for a reply to my earlier query!

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    4. It's not possible to dumb it down any further for you troll, try going back to the Daily Mail for your own 'special' level of idiocy.

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    5. England has claimed its colonies or whatever you think you are lose it money for hundreds of years. Remember, the American revolution was started because the Tories needed to raise taxes because of how much they were LOSING . we have gotten by. Same with canada, australia, india! , South africa, ...getting tired. The English think they invented Scotch, how gullible are you?

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    6. I see that the language of Anonymous is typical of those who can not answer a straight forward question.Sad really!

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    7. We have conducted a check on your prolife. Your account appears to have been set up for the sole reason of trolling.

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  6. Are the English to blame for today's defeat?

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  7. Why are Nicola's ratings dropping like a stone?

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    1. Have to love the delusional. lol

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    2. Why does this site attract so many trolls?

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    3. Typical.Just get rude when you cant answer the question!

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    4. Asserting some dumbass thing you heard in the Daily Mail isn't fact troll.

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  8. Why did the latest telephone poll take 3 weeks to complete?

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    1. You'd know that better than the rest of us.

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  9. I see the Sunday Post have done another Survation Independence poll of over 60's. How many over 60's are on the internet? The more affluent ones I would think. The majority of pensioners I know are not on the internet. This group is more influenced by newspapers and television than the younger age groups. In the age of Freeview, I am amazed how many pensioners stick to the 5 main channels and seldom venture the other channels available.

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    1. Campaigning on the doorstep may help, but I suspect efforts are better spent convincing more women to support independence, since that is still a weakness.

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  10. The problem Scottish Labour and others have with Corbyn is that he doesn't "play" politics. He simply states the obvious and doesn't make shit up or spin crap to wind up the other parties. This is truly a refreshing change. If more politicians behaved like him, we could have a sensible discussion. Instead, we just get politicians "playing" at politics. It's as if most politicians believe that the whole idea of politics is to avoid telling the truth at all times and to hurl lies at their oppositions. And look when one leader doesn't play that game and tells the truth? The political world caves in and goes on a demented rage. Corbyn's brilliant for highlighting just how much bull most politicians speak and what's become apparent is this: politicians can't handle one of their own speaking the truth!

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  11. I don't know why SLAB are complaining - at least when they take their next electoral pummeling they'll have Corbyn to scapegoat.

    And to think Ian Murray and his pals joined the party because they thought that was the way to become important and influential people. Lol.

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    1. Dugdale's Red Tory Suicide SquadMarch 11, 2017 at 11:53 PM

      If only they could blame Corbyn for going from 41 MPs to 1 clueless joke of an MP.

      They simply are bright enough or self-aware enough to realise that their pitiful 'ambition' to be Ruth Davidson's BritNat mini-me will only plunge them ever further into complete and utter irrelevance.

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