Friday, October 7, 2016

GAIN! Gallus SNP gallop to greatness in gorgeous Garscadden as lousy Labour limp to latest lamentable loss

The exact result from the Garscadden and Scotstounhill by-election hasn't been published anywhere yet as far as I can see, but if Twitter is to be believed it's roughly as follows...

SNP 43% (+16)
Labour 39% (-23)
Conservatives 10% (+7)
Greens 5% (+2)
Liberal Democrats 2% (+1)

That's just under a 20% swing - higher than in most recent by-elections.  And unlike some of the recent so-called "Labour gains from the SNP", this one is a genuine SNP gain, because Labour won the popular vote in the ward last time around, and by an enormous margin.

So there still doesn't seem to be the slightest grounds for hope that Labour can head off the arrival of a historical landmark next May that will be (almost) on a par with the fall of Byzantium - the long-overdue loss of control of Glasgow City Council.  The now-familiar pattern continues - Labour are haemorrhaging left-wing support to the SNP, and centre-right/unionist support to the Tories.  How strong Labour have been in an area in the past continues to be a perversely strong predictor of how well the SNP will do now.  Much of working-class Scotland has simply switched wholesale from one default choice of party to another over an astonishingly short period of time.

As far as the direct swing to the SNP is concerned, it's not really to any great extent a rejection of Jeremy Corbyn or Kezia Dugdale - most of the switchers had already moved on (to coin a phrase) from Labour before either took up office.  But the current leadership may have to shoulder more of the blame for the swing to the Tories, which wasn't yet happening under Ed Miliband or Jackanory Jim.

161 comments:

  1. The only question about the 2017 elections is who will come second. The Tories must be heavy favourites.

    It's funny. In 2007, when Labour narrowly lost a Scotland-wide election for the first time in more than half a century, who'd have thought they'd never win one again?

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    1. That is often the way massive political change happens.

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  2. Scottish Labour are Funionists

    Fudged Home Rule
    Fudged The Union


    When Gordon Brown declared Smith Commision was Home Rule

    Weeks Later he had to produce Vow +

    Scottish Labour & Tory Party egg each other on,who can give least powers to Scottish Parliament.


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  3. Have you seen the Hartlepool result? UKIP +49%

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    1. Well, they didn't stand last time. But it's still an eyepopping result.

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  4. James. This is disturbing.

    I was on the GOTV last night and got talking to a woman, SNP voter as it happens.

    She told me that one of the council people at her polling station had told her to fill in ALL the candidates check boxes, in the order she thought accorded with her political outlook. She also said, must have been talking to some other voters, that she was not an isolated case.

    At the start of our campaign, I asked, as an additional question, just for my curiosity, if the person who had answered the door knew anything about STV.
    None had, and you could say that would be about 100 folk. Gave up after 3 sessions.

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    1. What's wrong with that? You can indeed rank all the candidates if you want, though you don't have to.

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    2. That's precisely the problem. She was given incorrect advice. Her vote might have transferred to someone she didn't want it to transfer to.

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    3. Does that matter? Any candidate(s) she actually wanted elected would be unaffected, and any she was virulently opposed to wouldn't benefit. You seem to be implying some sinister motive by the polling officer, but I can't see what that could be.

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    4. It does matter because polling officers shouldn't give incorrect info, and I am only implying incompetence.

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  5. Would like to see the demographics breakdown in that seat. Who is still voting Labour?

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    1. I'd guess it's now limited to people who haven't paid any attention to politics since 1987, and left-wing hardcore Unionists.

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    2. And maybe the odd tactical vote from right-wing hardcore Unionists who realise the Tories don't have a chance in that seat.

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  6. Very worrying, the LD's doubled their vote share. :)

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  7. 48 v 52 Against independence though.

    What was the independence result in this ward?

    Comparing to 2012 is a good exercise in history but of limited use to how Scotland is and will be post 2014.

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    1. Assuming all the 39% Labour would vote against Independence - they might just have some nostalgia for the party or the local candidate. The way things are going down South, I can't see all Labour's remaining support (or even LibDems) voting solidly against independence.

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    2. Local election can be just that, local. Local personalities come more into local government elections than national politics. A measure of how the parties are presently thought of can be extracted form the results.

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    3. Aye, I know there are variables at play here but it's statistically the case that people voted for a Unionist majority in this election. And that's also assuming all the Greens vote Yes too.

      The political landscape have never been better for us making the democratic argument. Unfortunately, the economic case has definitely weakened (not entirely but in the way it can be portrayed).

      I'm flummoxed. Don't know whether to wait or get it done. I'm inclined to wait but the SNP's popularity won't last forever.

      Fighting a Yes vote in five years with a decaying SNP will perhaps be more tough than the toss up now.

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    4. On what turn out? Plenty folk will be motivated to vote Yes in Indyref2 but won't ever be motivated enough to vote SNP, especially in a local election.
      braco

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    5. I don't think we should assume that all the remaining Labour voters are yoons. Some yes, but others will be voting out of party loyalty (even some that voted YES way back in 2014!). Old habits die hard.

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    6. A far safer assumption would be to assume that the Labour voters that have just switched to the Tories are indeed yoons. They must have held their noses in the polling booth.


      Yoons with a capital "Y". :)

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    7. On what turn out? Plenty folk will be motivated to vote Yes in Indyref2 but won't ever be motivated enough to vote SNP, especially in a local election.

      Equally, Unionists will be more likely to turn out in indyref2 than in a local by-election.

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    8. Agree. It's a big opinion poll basically. Yes and No just as likely to head out for this election.

      Yes polling under 50 in a heartland territory is not everything it's being cooked up to be.

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  8. Ticking along nicely for IndyRef2. Westminster can only get more fascist. Scotland must end the union with England.

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    1. Agree. I don't know about you, but the outrageous fascism that was the Conservative Party Conference made me utterly convinced that my belief in independence was the right thing to do.

      Forget economics. Forget anything other than separation from that failed, and self referental, state.

      Never felt so certain. Though we still have to win!

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  9. Glasgow Working Class 2October 7, 2016 at 2:30 PM

    51% voted for Unionist parties. The Greens got 5%. Irrespective of who won our whellie bins will still get emptied and the Tory/Tartan Tory council tax freeze will remain in place.

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    1. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandOctober 7, 2016 at 3:06 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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    2. Edith Snellgrove-WhitmanOctober 7, 2016 at 3:32 PM

      No doubt he is an avid fan of Donald Trump. Vile person.

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    3. gwc2 (racist Britnat si) obviously has trouble with his number work (where did 51% come from?), but appers also to be unable to spell ('whellie'??).

      He should ask his teacher (or nurse!!) to give him extra......... Pair wee man.

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    4. Don't sympathise with the Britnat si. Mock him without mercy. He sold his soul to Auntie Cruella because #snpbad.

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  10. Theresa Trump and the BrexitearsOctober 7, 2016 at 3:15 PM

    Washington Post ‏@washingtonpost

    Theresa May bragged about Britain being world’s 5th-largest economy. After her speech, it dropped to 6th.

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  11. There last act is to try and ban independence marches, by making them hard to organise or grant authority. The walls are closing in and they will carry on until there is no light left. These people are dying but want to bring as much chaos to the independence movement as they can on their way down. Unable to look in the mirror, unable to change! They will go down like Douglas Alexander & Ian Davidson without a whimper of humility.

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  12. GWC didn't do well in maths!

    2016 Holyrood elections results SNP 46.5% + Greens 6.6% = 53.1%! 53% of Holyrood is pro indi.

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    1. Presumably he's referring to the council election which is the subject of this thread.

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  13. Glasgow Working Class 2October 7, 2016 at 6:02 PM

    39 + 10 + 2 = 51. You Nat sis really are a vile bunch of scum. Come ra revolution you will not get strawberries and cream.

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    1. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandOctober 7, 2016 at 6:11 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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    2. Woe betide the Britnat si when he's stupid enough to cross Auntie Cruella. Leadsom will have him out in the fields houkin tatties till he drops.

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    3. Glasgow Working Class 2October 7, 2016 at 7:28 PM

      The fascist is back with the repetitive repetition.

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    4. The Britnat si sockpuppet calls scottish people "jocks", advocates the creation of armed militias in every workplace, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs while claiming that they're not pejorative, pretends to be Labour (badly) while ranting far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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  14. Theresa Trump and the BrexitearsOctober 7, 2016 at 6:14 PM

    Sathnam SangheraVerified account ‏@Sathnam

    Racist taunt of "get back where you came from", which has always haunted immigrants and their kids, is basically government policy #brexit

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2October 7, 2016 at 7:10 PM

      Nat si anti English racist plays the race card.

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    2. The Britnat si sockpuppet calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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    3. Glasgow Working Class 2October 7, 2016 at 7:38 PM

      The knobend is back spewing Nat si filth.

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    4. The Britnat si sockpuppet calls scottish people "jocks", advocates the creation of armed militias in every workplace, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs while claiming that they're not pejorative, pretends to be Labour (badly) while ranting far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor.

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  15. Theresa May's National FrontOctober 7, 2016 at 8:58 PM

    Sathnam SangheraVerified account ‏@Sathnam

    Racist taunt of "get back where you came from", which has always haunted immigrants and their kids, is basically government policy #brexit #toryracists

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  16. Bumblefuck tories for racial unityOctober 7, 2016 at 10:04 PM

    The Home Office released a statement claiming that Amber Rudd couldn't possibly be a racist because she had brought a curry into the Home Office at 10.30pm the previous night.

    *** NOT A JOKE *** THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED ***




    Have people somehow forgotten Theresa May should have been booted out of her old job at the Home Office on at least 3 separate occasions because of her gross incompetence and stupidity? The only reason she wasn't is that nobody else wanted the job and Cameron couldn't be arsed to find a replacement. More fool him, as usual.

    At least May has managed to find someone even more repulsive and dumber than she was. So that's a bonus.

    Theresa May got caught lying through her teeth about immigrant cats for god's sake. That actually happened too. It wasn't a satirical joke it was real.

    Time to face the facts, she is an idiot as are her cabinet of third rate tory bumblefucks.

    Just how long is it going to take the out of touch westminster bubble twits to realise May and her cabinet of third raters are a bit on the thick side?

    So of course the tories are playing the racist card because they are quite clearly far too stupid to understand how dangerous it is.

    When UKIP start 'naming and shaming' 'foreigners' and their children from the governments new list - and when the Kippers do the same to tories with 'foreign' relatives or roots outside the UK, will the penny finally fucking drop then?

    The Kippers don't need a coherent party or raft of policies now.
    They just need to outdo the tories on xenophobia and racism. That's it. That is precisely what May's lurch to the far-right fringes has ensured.

    And they will do this while reminding those that voted for Brexit that the tories and Theresa May herself were officially opposed to Brexit, so they can't be trusted to be as 'hard' on foreigners as the kippers.

    Every single step of the way towards the calamitous clusterfuck of Brexit the tories have been dragged to the dar-right because their dimwitted leaders could never understand that they can never ever outkip the kippers.

    The westminster bubble twits are going to be in for the shock of their lives if they think a tory race to the bottom against UKIP focused on racism can end in anything other than complete and total disaster.

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    1. What about:
      Immigrant birds,insects,fish,viruses...?
      Are we all going to have to go around identifying entities that are not "native" and report them to the English Gestapo?
      It appears that even within the human species,some aliens are to be regarded as more beneficial than others.
      Those who serve the City of London and it's PR machine are to be welcomed but those who support what is left of our public services are not.
      Says it all really.

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  17. Newsflash for Gwc. If he means we disagree with the direction England is taking and disagree with the zenophobic racist Tories. Then yes we are anti English but for the opposite reason that he would delude himself into believing.

    We are against right wing, Upper class anti Scottish, anti immigrant bigots. One day he will realise that supporting and belly flopping to his English masters who would do him harm. Will not leave him in a healthy state. A soul so black cannot be saved from itself.

    Self harming used to be a national sport in Scotland. But that changed after 2014. The knuckle daggers will go down hanging onto the funnels of the Titanic. The rest of Scotland will abandon ship.

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2October 7, 2016 at 10:42 PM

      So leaving the EU corrupt gravy train is zenophobic?

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    2. The Britnat si sockpuppet calls scottish people "jocks", advocates the creation of armed militias in every workplace, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs while claiming that they're not pejorative, pretends to be Labour (badly) while ranting far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor.

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  18. Scotland voted to remain.... Get it! We are not leaving the Eu without a referendum on independence. You can shout and moan and shrug. But indi 2 is coming. Whether you agree or disagree with the EU more people voted to stay in the Eu in Scotland than voted to stay in the Uk. The UK is turning into the pariah of Europe. Everybody hates us we don't care!

    Well Scotland does care and wants to get along with our European family. We are not like England we are not the same. It's time we parted.

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2October 8, 2016 at 1:50 AM

      Family! Whit a knob you are.

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    2. The Britnat si sockpuppet calls scottish people "jocks", advocates the creation of armed militias in every workplace, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs while claiming that they're not pejorative, pretends to be Labour (badly) while ranting far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor.

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    3. Tick tock tick tock .

      Gwc . Your union disintegrates by the day. I like talk of your revolution . Sadly for you you will be on the losing side on this one. You should study demographics - it's a fascinating subject.

      It's quite easy to understand . Within 10 years the majority of folk who voted no will have died off and been replaced by a younger generation of majority yes voters. The end result is not up for discussion - it's only a matter of when in the next 10 years it comes. Tick tock. I grow strength from the dying embers of your red and blue tories vision of how things used to be.

      Your time is passing and ours is knocking at the door. Think of it like a see saw. As every day passes red and blue tories die off . Then one day ... tip ....tick tock . Tick tock.

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  19. "more people voted to stay in the Eu in Scotland (1,666,191) than voted to stay in the Uk (2,001,926)". So that was not true, I think you mean a bigger percentage of those who voted 62% Eu to 55% UK, that's true.

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2October 8, 2016 at 10:12 AM

      Scots are strange considering the EU is on the verge of bankruptcy. Who is going to subsidise them when the this corrupt body collapses!

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    2. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandOctober 8, 2016 at 4:33 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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  20. Labour got 39% of the vote.They won't keep overall control of GCC on that sort of support,but they will continue to have a major presence.GCC,like most councils in Scotland,will most likely become a No Overall Control area come May.

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  21. Glasgow Working Class 2October 8, 2016 at 10:08 AM

    Corbyn could still do a deal by 2020 with the Tartan Tories. Its laugh a minute with Labour.

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    1. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandOctober 8, 2016 at 4:33 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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  22. penny dreadfuls ‏@penny_dreadfuls 18h

    one of the things I love about living in Scotland is that I am never "a polish friend" I am just, you know, "a friend" #wearescotland

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  23. Theresa Trump and the BrexitearsOctober 8, 2016 at 5:06 PM

    BloombergVerified account ‏@business

    Pound index drops beyond post-Brexit low on May's speech



    Theresa May ‏@Theresa_Maybe Oct 7
    BREAKING NEWS:

    You know the thin foil seal you peel off the top of a plastic milk bottle? The pound is now worth one of those.


    Financial TimesVerified account ‏@FT Oct 6

    The pound’s fall is a reality check for Theresa May, and investors


    Danny Blanchflower ‏@D_Blanchflower Oct 7

    It dawned on investors this week that when it comes to quitting EU safeguarding economy isn’t PM May’s top priority


    BloombergVerified account ‏@business 24h

    Ex-policy maker says the pound's slump may be too much for the Bank of England to tackle http://bloom.bg/2dAhh04

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  24. Ed Milliband made a huge mistake getting on a soap box with the Tories 2014 during the Scot Referendum. Labour always had a majority in Scotland, the trouble is they took it for granted, the same as the North of England the Blairites may have won elections but they have caused long term demise, Corbyn is gaining ground but has far too much Blairite dead wood in the party negating everything he does. An alliance with the SNP would be sensible to keep the Tories out.

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2October 8, 2016 at 6:13 PM

      The Nat sis carry on with Thatcherite dogma.

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    2. The Britnat si calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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    3. Glasgow Working Class 2October 8, 2016 at 10:32 PM

      And the Nat sis continue with Thatcherite policies.

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    4. The Britnat si calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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    5. GWC2 (our resident pet Britnat si racist Tory, and lover of May's xenophobia) is obviously feeling the long-term side effects of his medication. Think he may well require specialist help - seems 'nurse' isn't sufficient, lately.

      However, please be nice to him as the particular species 'Britnat si' appears to be dying out - perhaps we could pickle him and preserve him in a jar?

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  25. GWC is genuine. He actually is a racist,misogynist,bigoted anti Scottish cretin.

    I know it's been said before but can we not get him off here. I am fed up tolerating these dangerous people. It's the same as the Orange Order. If you tolerate this then your children will be next.

    This underbelly of toxic self harmers should not be allowed air time. Certainly not in the world of democratic grown up debate.

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    1. I really can't see GWC2 as being "dangerous", since he is taken to task (mockingly) every time one of his racist, Britnat si drivel posts arrive on here.

      Probably better to let him continue to demonstrate his pathetic misunderstanding of the term 'debate?', for all sensible people to see.
      I cannot see anyone (yes, even children) being, in any way, taken in by him - as long as we keep showing him up for the racist Tory that he clearly is.

      Following Amber Rudd's 'listing foreigners' gambit, will he be able to keep using his "Nat si" slur on the SNP?? The Tories appear to be much further on the path to Mein Kampf ideology!!

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    2. "I know it's been said before but can we not get him off here. I am fed up tolerating these dangerous people. It's the same as the Orange Order. If you tolerate this then your children will be next."

      What hysteria about a barely literate troll.

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    3. Glasgow Working Class 2October 9, 2016 at 5:10 PM

      I wonder what your mothers were thinking when tucking the wee Nat si vegetables into bed.

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    4. The poster above is a far-right tory sockpuppetOctober 9, 2016 at 6:25 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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  26. Bumblefuck tories for racial unityOctober 9, 2016 at 6:12 PM

    Armando Iannucci ‏@Aiannucci 8h

    The anti-foreigner messages now coming from the Tory leadership are the ugliest politics we've had in the UK in decades.

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2October 9, 2016 at 6:15 PM

      Not really there is the Scottish Nat si English hating Nat si party.

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    2. The poster above is a tory sockpuppet from Stormfront LiteOctober 9, 2016 at 6:21 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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    3. Glasgow Working Class 2October 9, 2016 at 6:31 PM

      You seem obcessed with the dead is Savile a relative!

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    4. GWC2, you need to get back to your homework or your infant teacher will not be pleased with you - especially with your spelling!! You are an abscess on the bum of Britnat sis (that's a spelling clue!!!).

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    5. Glasgow Working Class 2October 9, 2016 at 7:22 PM

      You deal with your spellin Nat si fash bhoy. You clearly understand what I am saying. It must give you comfort correcting and you need comforting since losing both referendums.

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    6. The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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  27. Theresa Trump and the BrexitearsOctober 9, 2016 at 6:20 PM

    The Independent ‏@Independent 3 hours ago

    The Pound is tanking because there is no plan for Brexit, former Tory cabinet minister Ken Clarke warns http://ind.pn/2dDKkQc

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    1. There is no plan except to whip up state sponsored Daily Mail style fascism.

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  28. Bumblefuck tories for racial unityOctober 9, 2016 at 6:22 PM

    Armando Iannucci ‏@Aiannucci 8h

    The anti-foreigner messages now coming from the Tory leadership are the ugliest politics we've had in the UK in decades.

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2October 9, 2016 at 9:20 PM

      The anti English message from the joke Jock Nat sis over the years borders on fascism.

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    2. The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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  29. Bumblefuck tories for racial unityOctober 9, 2016 at 6:28 PM

    CNBC International ‏@CNBCi

    World Markets Live TL;DR: Pound sinks to a 1985 low against the dollar on fears of a 'hard Brexit'

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  30. Glasgow Working Class 2October 9, 2016 at 9:48 PM

    Whatever happened to the Scottish pound plan post Brexit from the Union or was there a plan! Up yer kilt Nat sis go and toss caress yer Cabers.

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    1. The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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    2. Glasgow Working Class 2October 10, 2016 at 12:20 AM

      Angry hate filled anti English Joke Jock Nat si fascist who is obsessed with the dead and lies on a regular basis. Also has an obsession with spelling. Clearly a product of privaleged private education who had an affair with cucumbers.

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    3. Time for some of the snivelling Britnat si hypocrite's greatest hits: The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor.

      The Britnat si may trot off whimpering back to its right-wing authoritarian overlords whenever it's ready.

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    4. Glasgow Working Class 2October 10, 2016 at 1:33 AM

      You are the greatest asset for the Union. Keep your Nat si drivel going. Please.

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    5. Time for some of the snivelling Britnat si hypocrite's greatest hits: The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor.

      The Britnat si may trot off whimpering back to its right-wing authoritarian overlords whenever it's ready.

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    6. Glasgow Working Class 2October 10, 2016 at 6:25 PM

      Lying seems to be your purpose in life,

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    7. Time for some of the snivelling Britnat si hypocrite's greatest hits: The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor.

      The Britnat si may trot off whimpering back to its right-wing authoritarian overlords whenever it's ready.

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  31. keep up the good work James K.and don't be deterred by the likes of GWC2 and his deluded pals.
    Better to be reminded of the existence of these sad impotent individuals in our society so we can keep them in touch with reality by allowing them a little airtime to vent their twisted spleens...
    Great body of material on here for posterity if anyone wants to give a masterclass/do a PhD one day in the futility of trolling in the lead up to Scottish independence.

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  32. Bumblefuck tories for racial unityOctober 10, 2016 at 6:37 PM

    Michael Gray @GrayInGlasgow 58min

    109 days after the Brexit vote, the UKGov has published 1 flowchart, 1 letter they were sent, & the legal defence for their court date.

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  33. Glasgow Working Class 2October 10, 2016 at 6:52 PM

    The problem you Nat sis have is that once Brexit happens you will have no one tae crawl tae including yer German preference. Side splitting laughter Nat sis. It was the great Irish Celik Tiger then Norway and Iceland. More side splitting laughter. How could I possibly live from day today without you fash.

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    1. The problem you have is not just that we all know you are lying far-right tory sockpuppet, but that you are so hilariously shit at it.

      Hence your pitiful tantrums and petulant whining on here every single time Theresa's Nasty Party are hammered for their breathtaking incompetence and repulsive racism.

      Or, to put it in the simplest terms a dimwitted sockpuppet troll like you can actually grasp.

      You're shit and we know you are. ;o)

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    2. Glasgow Working Class 2October 10, 2016 at 9:00 PM

      I wonder who 'we are'. A secret Nat si group of one. A wan man Nat si band!
      You Nat sis are further tae the right than the Tories and you hate the English. Real scumbags. Democrats need to keep an eye on you lot or else we could have holiday camps in Scotland.

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    3. The poster above is a far-right racist tory sockpuppetOctober 10, 2016 at 9:11 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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    4. Glasgow Working Class 2October 10, 2016 at 10:08 PM

      You clearly have a fetish for the dead. You should be reported tae the polis.

      Delete
    5. Time for some of the snivelling Britnat si hypocrite's greatest hits: The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor.

      The Britnat si may trot off whimpering back to its right-wing authoritarian overlords whenever it's ready.

      Delete
  34. Theresa Trump and the BrexitearsOctober 10, 2016 at 7:28 PM

    The DM Reporter ‏@DMReporter 6 hours ago

    THIS IS WHO WE ARE NOW: Mail readers on Facebook are delighted that a migrant in France has been run over and killed

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2October 10, 2016 at 9:05 PM

      Migrants are killing and planning killing in the EU you thicko. Take yer heid fae yer arsehole.

      Delete
    2. Tory Racist Class 2October 10, 2016 at 9:08 PM

      Piss off back to Stormfront Lite you racist tory shitebag.

      Delete
    3. Glasgow Working Class 2October 10, 2016 at 9:29 PM

      Piss aff back tae yer beach and crawl intae yer sea shell. Do not emerge again for a billion years yah thick tollie.

      Delete
    4. The Britnat si is angry. It's hilarious.

      Delete
  35. Bumblefuck tories for racial unityOctober 10, 2016 at 9:10 PM

    The DM Reporter ‏@DMReporter 6 hours ago

    THIS IS WHO WE ARE NOW: Mail readers on Facebook are delighted that a migrant in France has been run over and killed

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  36. Bumblefuck tories for racial unityOctober 10, 2016 at 9:14 PM

    Danny BlanchflowerVerified account ‏@D_Blanchflower

    Utterly clueless Brexiter racist Government bars foreign academics from advising on Brexit

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2October 10, 2016 at 9:42 PM

      Why do we need foreign academics when we have joke Nat si a academics!

      Delete
    2. Time for some of the snivelling Britnat si hypocrite's greatest hits: The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor.

      The Britnat si may trot off whimpering back to its right-wing authoritarian overlords whenever it's ready.

      Delete
  37. Good God, our resident, racist, pet Britnat si seems to be having a lot of trouble with his medication today - this verbal diarhorrea he spouts is worse than the real thing, but he must have an awful taste in his big Tory gub after each episode!!

    Britnat sis are so cute and cuddly, though, but unfortunately thick as mince.

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2October 10, 2016 at 10:43 PM

      Leaving god aside whoever that is you are an idiot.

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    2. The deep joy of being called an idiot by someone whose thoughts display all the depth and clarity of a muddy dub.

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  38. Brexit going swimmingly then. £1 worth LESS than €1. Food prices to raise by 25%, cost of fuel to raise by average of 4p by end of week. All BEFORE Article 50 invoked. Genius, just genius!

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2October 10, 2016 at 11:09 PM

      The genious is getting out and far away from the EU gravy train. No doubt the idle MEP'S will find a new niche to extort money from the working classes.

      Delete
    2. Tory Racist Class 2October 11, 2016 at 12:33 AM

      You are about as "working class" as David Cameron, you pathetic sockpuppet twat. LOL

      Delete
  39. Glasgow Working Class 2October 10, 2016 at 10:39 PM

    Scottish Nat sis support Heathrow expansion! Heathrow is in Engerland so the Fash are relying on England. Impotent bunch of sleeping hand job joke Jocks. WANKERS in any language.

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    1. "Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh!!!! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh!!! Waaaaaaaaahhhh!!

      I'm a whiny tory sockpuppet and everyone's laughing at my self-proclaimed genius.

      Waaaaaaahhhh!!"

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  40. Glasgow Working Class 2October 11, 2016 at 12:20 AM

    Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh!!!! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh!!! Waaaaaaaaahhhh!!

    I'm a whiny tory sockpuppet and everyone thinks I'm a complete fucking twat.

    Waaaaaaahhhh!!

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  41. Theresa Trump and the BrexitearsOctober 11, 2016 at 12:21 AM

    The DM Reporter ‏@DMReporter 6 hours ago

    THIS IS WHO WE ARE NOW: Mail readers on Facebook are delighted that a migrant in France has been run over and killed

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  42. Bumblefuck tories for racial unityOctober 11, 2016 at 12:22 AM

    Michael Gray @GrayInGlasgow 58min

    109 days after the Brexit vote, the UKGov has published 1 flowchart, 1 letter they were sent, & the legal defence for their court date.

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  43. Theresa Trump and the BrexitearsOctober 11, 2016 at 12:24 AM

    Bonnie Greer ‏@Bonn1eGreer 28 minutes ago

    Pound is being called a "frontier currency"-@Bloombergtv
    Only Mozambique and Senegal doing worse.

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  44. Theresa May's National FrontOctober 11, 2016 at 12:26 AM

    LSE Brexit blogVerified account ‏@lsebrexitvote 5 hours ago


    Britons face a cut in real wages as collapsing pound stokes inflation http://dailym.ai/2e2Hrvs via @ThisIsMoney

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  45. Glasgow Working Class 2October 11, 2016 at 12:39 AM

    You Joke Jock Nat sis are anti English and would prefer that Britain would have been defeated by the Nat sis and the Jewish people extinguished. YOU are scum. Up yer kilt.

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    1. Up your meds, dearie.

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    2. Surely it can't be long before gwc2 (our very own Britnat si) is put in a strait jacket, since medication is obviously failing.
      It's so hard being Tory Britnat si these days!!

      Delete
  46. Guardian,today -

    "Treasury coffers will take a £66bn ANNUAL hit if Britain goes for a hard Brexit, cabinet ministers have been warned.

    Leaked government papers suggest that leaving the single market and switching to World Trade Organisation (WTO) rules would cause GDP to fall by up to 9.5% compared with staying in the EU."

    With this bunch of extreme right-wing Tory Tossers aiming for exactly that - a hard Brexit - the UK economy is going to tank.

    One pound is barely buying one Euro at present.....and Brexit has not even happened yet.

    However,the Tories have just INCREASED their lead over Labour to 17 points and, with forthcoming boundary changes next year, look to be in Westminster Government for at least a couple of decades.

    In fact, Labour might never get back in.

    Time for ALL Scots, even die-hard Unionist nut jobs, to decide whether having a bunch of elitist, racist, Tory Millionaires and their shit-covered City pals in charge for 20-30 years is a price worth paying to shore up a dying, lop-sided, unfair and unequal political union.

    Or whether we can do better by ourselves.

    That choice is getting starker by the day, now, and the reasons to keep the Tories in overall control, are getting weaker at the same time.

    Those who have, so far, chosen the union, are now rapidly running out of reasons why.

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2October 11, 2016 at 10:04 AM

      And yet the Nat sis carry on with the legacy of Thatcher and her Tory policies. Get a grip auld yin and stop pretending to be a socialist. You Nat si gob shitters need tae be exposed for the Tartan Tories you are.

      Delete
    2. "Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh!!!! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh!!! Waaaaaaaaahhhh!!

      I'm a whiny tory sockpuppet and everyone's laughing at my self-proclaimed genius.

      Waaaaaaahhhh!!"

      Delete
  47. Glasgow Working Class 2October 11, 2016 at 10:40 AM

    Scottish Nat sis back Heathrow. Big brown envelopes loadsamoney.

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    1. Ok, McG - give us your reasons, now, for sticking with the union.

      I want to know why you think Scotland would be better served remaining under this racist/xenophobic bunch of Tories for the next couple of decades, as the sail the UK ship off a cliff.

      I am being serious and polite here and would appreciate the same from you.

      You cannot seriously, as a Scot, believe that would couldn't do better ourselves?

      Delete
    2. gwc2 "Big brown envelopes loadsamoney."

      ...and I always presumed that brown envelopes and money were the total preserve of the Tories - let's have a wee competition to name some, shall we??

      Climb back into your Britnat si cot and swallow your medicine, like a good baby, prat!

      Delete
    3. Glasgow Working Class 2October 11, 2016 at 4:57 PM

      It has evaded you that the Nat sis need Heathrow which is in England. Thought you fash could have a better plan for Scotland.

      Delete
    4. "Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh!!!! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh!!! Waaaaaaaaahhhh!!

      I'm a whiny tory sockpuppet and everyone's laughing at my self-proclaimed genius.

      Waaaaaaahhhh!!"

      Delete
  48. Although I absolutely agree with the principle that having signed up to holding a referendum,the government of the day must be bound by the outcome,it has exposed the sham of democracy at the heart of Westminster governance.
    Namely,the mechanism being proposed to implement the decision,the Crown in Parliament.
    This allows the government of the day to do what it pretty well likes without consulting parliament and means that the UK state in the 21st century is still fundamentally a feudal state.
    Without the constraints imposed on it by EU law,we will be completely at the mercy of an unelected,unaccountable government in another country who overtly reject the principles of shared sovereignty within a union.

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  49. Glasgow Working Class 2October 11, 2016 at 6:34 PM

    David Francis you auld pretend socialist muppet. The Scots vote to remain in the Union and that is good enough for me.

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    1. McGibbon - every single piece of analysis would seem to point to only one conclusion - there is far, far more chance of Labour coming back to power in an Independent Scotland, than in a Tory dominated UK.

      The SNP will, undoubtedly, splinter in the years following Independence, as it will have fulfilled its main mission and the other left-of-centre parties will benefit from this.

      Even at its lowest ebb, at present, Scottish Labour is only just trailing the Tories up here and there are not many SNPers, like myself,who are going to give the Conservatives their vote.

      Labour, therefore, have an excellent medium term chance to make a comeback in Scotland.

      In Westminster, however, especially given the pending boundary changes will will hugely favour May & Co., Labour's chances of getting back into power are extremely remote and might never materialise at all - causing the party to split and totally disappear as a credible political entity.

      The fiscal arguments for Scotland remaining in the UK have been totally shredded by the Brexit vote and (according to the latest Treasury/Whitehall leaked advice) Westminster faces a £66 BILLION EXTRA DEFICIT EACH YEAR for approx the next 20 years.

      So, no political argument and no fiscal argument for staying within the union....and a better chance for a Labour revival in an Indy Scotland.

      That being the case - why would you wish to remain under WM?

      And that is to not even mention the appalling, racist, lurch to the Right England seems to be taking.

      Still waiting on your considered response, son.

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    2. The sockpuppet doesn't do considered responses, David. Knee-jerk insults, snark and racism are more his speed.

      Delete
    3. Glasgow Working Class 2October 11, 2016 at 8:18 PM

      David I considered long ago. The Nat sis are just Scottish right wing Tartan Tories who hate the English.

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    4. "The sockpuppet doesn't do considered responses, David. Knee-jerk insults, snark and racism are more his speed." QED

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  50. Glasgow Working Class 2October 11, 2016 at 8:14 PM

    There is no need for the Nat sis now that they have admitted that London is now the major hub for Scotland. The Scottish Parliament should disband voluntarily and taxpayers money spent helping the poor. Gravy Train No More! Up yer kilts.

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    1. "The sockpuppet doesn't do considered responses, David. Knee-jerk insults, snark and racism are more his speed." QED.

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    2. That's your considered response?????????

      FFS McGibbon......you really don't have ANY reason to stay in the union, do you.

      Give me a single logical reason why an alleged Left Wing Scotsman like you would want to stay in a racist, Tory dominated UK any longer?

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    3. Glasgow Working Class 2October 11, 2016 at 9:58 PM

      Who said I was left wing auld yin? A good reason to stay in the Union is we live next door to England and we are all inbred since 1707. Your great great granny was probably shagged by an Englishman! Maybe a Jew and that would piss ye aff Nat si.

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    4. YOU said you were socialist, in a conversation with me months ago, ya lying wee git.

      I always thought you were a Tory, but you always denied it.

      So, the sad truth is, you are a Scottish Tory who values the union above Scotland.

      All this time, all this pretence...for that.

      If that is the only argument you have left, you really ahve nothing at all.

      I am disappointed in you, pal - I actually thought you believed that you had Scotland's interests at heart.

      You don't.

      Empty Unionist Tory Vessel, sonny that is all you are.

      Glad that is all laid bare, for all to see.

      This will be my last ever communication with you.

      You are simply a pile of fucking dross.

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    5. Glasgow Working Class 2October 11, 2016 at 10:37 PM

      I am a socialist you are not as you support the Nat si Tartan Tories. Kind of National Socialist!

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    6. Glasgow Working Class 2October 11, 2016 at 11:23 PM

      The really sad thing about you David Francis is you do not know the difference between left wingers and socialism. Left wingers believe in capitalism socialists do not. Corbyn is a left winger but wants to reform capitalism but not overthrow capitalism. You really are an old fudd.

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    7. Well said David, don't expect any sense from our pet Britnat si troll - his nurse tries her best but he is now beyond the pale.

      He can't be a member of any Party as he's still in primary school!

      Delete
    8. He is just a sad wee Unionist prick, who can see the Union disintegrating right in front of him.

      He will become more and more deranged, in direct proportion to becoming less and less relevant.

      His day has past...and he knows it.

      Sad wee turd.

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    9. Glasgow Working Class 2October 12, 2016 at 8:27 PM

      Your socialism if you ever had any evaporated when you involved yourself in petty flag waving nationalism.

      Delete
    10. Time for some of the snivelling Britnat si hypocrite's greatest hits: The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor.

      The Britnat si may trot off whimpering back to its right-wing authoritarian overlords whenever it's ready.

      Delete
  51. Glasgow Working Class 2October 12, 2016 at 12:09 AM

    Ok Francis go tae yer bed and put a dummy tit on yer Buckie bottel and suck away yer conscience.

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    1. "The sockpuppet doesn't do considered responses, David. Knee-jerk insults, snark and racism are more his speed." QED.

      Delete
    2. Glasgow Working Class 2October 12, 2016 at 9:14 PM

      Shami shark rabati is your type of socialist David. Do not do as I do just do what I say.

      Delete
    3. Time for some of the snivelling Britnat si hypocrite's greatest hits: The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor.

      The Britnat si may trot off whimpering back to its right-wing authoritarian overlordts whenever it's ready.

      Delete