Wednesday, October 8, 2014

Is it just me, or do you get the impression Neil Lovatt didn't like the last post very much?

This little spectacle has been going on for the best part of 24 hours now...

"Ahhh nothing like a sore loser, and they don't come any sorer than James! Not easy watching him have a breakdown."

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"Do love his "self style...risk assessor" Only person who describes me as such is @jameskelly and the alligators in his head."

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"Astonishing how little he knows about betting exchanges as opposed to bookies. Falls into every simplistic cliche."

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"Naw he would just delete it before reading it, he's not open to challenge or debate as we've seen." (What have I ever deleted?)

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"I think he'd struggle because he doesn't understand market pricing and still thinks there are bookies." (Yes, I plead guilty, I still think there are bookies. Probably because there are.)

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"and denying the relevance of the odds market. Something he's doubled down on after he's already folded!!!!"

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"First time I've ever heard of headlines written as "ironic tributes", but always fun to rewrite your own past."

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"I don't see any of us asking for money, you asking for money to continue a blog that was plainly wrong is rich"

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"Yes please find (sic) my lifestyle so I can continue to delude people with my incorrect blog and theories."

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"Not bitter at all James, nothing to be bitter about. You on the other hand clearly have a lot of issues."

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"I think you keep forgetting James, you lost and you were wrong."

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"Want me to quote your odds tweet again James. I could just point you to your own blog now as well."

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"Of course I have quoted your odds tweet several times. That's what's got you so wound up...again."

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"Love the way you pretend you've never had evidence, Last time you got it you just went quiet. Wonder why?" (Probably because I had to mute you on Twitter before the referendum because you were wasting too much of my time with exactly this sort of repetitive content-free drivel.)

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"Lol yes that's right James you had it in a discussion last time then went very quiet. As I say wonder why?" (Did someone say something about "repetitive"?)

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"Oh dear you are yet again pretending that you haven't seen it. Very sad James."

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"Yes I've got the tweet right here, I keep it in evernote for special occasions"

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"Gone quiet again after getting the quote again. I rest my case m'lud." (Or possibly I was having my tea.)

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"Today's blog being good evidence of that (you know how James likes his evidence)"

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"I know, you looked and fool then and you look it today as well. Well done *standingovation"

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"James as I said when you told us about your bet, a fool and his money are easily separated."

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"Yes I know we established you were a fool several months ago. Still pedalling the risk assessor line eh?"

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"I thought it best to shred the blog. So there you go."

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"I decided to shred @JamesKelly blog."

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"Well @JamesKelly took £5K from his supporters then tried to have a go at me on his blog. So I shredded it. Enjoy."

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"@Jameskelly decided to have a go at me and the odds market so I decided to defend it in a shed piece."

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"you’ll like this Lisa after @JamesKelly thought you apologised"

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"*james tried to eek out some credibility using playground tactics ….. And fails."

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"“@drgmlennox: @neiledwardlovat I did indeed enjoy Neil! Completely shredded!!” @JamesKelly trying to defend with playground tactics"

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"the boy sure is obsessed with me apparently it’s not the first time he’s mentioned me I hear!"

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"I heard in your case James it’s a very very small thing. #explainsalot"

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"blogs on polls with a heavy Yes slant. Was proved very wrong by odds and results."

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"careful Heather not even I think I’m always right. I just know BS when I hear it. Ive been wrong and apologised many a time"

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"odds were the crowd sourced interpretation of how #indyref was going. @JamesKelly write whatever he could to please Yessers."

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"well that’s not difficult they were delusional and still haven’t come back down to earth."

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"they tend to be quiet. But lovely James justs repeated all their nonsense so I got a chance to shred it in one go."

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"I think they are just coming to terms with it, people like James and their enthusiasm made them think they were going to win."

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"Ah I'm sorry James, i'm taken. You just don't have enough hair for me. Perhaps if you wore a wig."

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"Yes thats right James I'm bitter, Oh wait thats you. you lost the referendum & have been shredded tonight."

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"Strange he doesn't put the financial structure in place for the donation? How is it taxed for example?"

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"Given you have a £5000 donation it's a legitimate question to ask about your tax position."

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"Haven't published it on your fund-raising page."

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"OK so they have no right to know unless they ask. Hope you are not avoiding tax that's all. That wouldn't do at all."

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"I'm asking a question of a public figure who is raising his money from the public. Perfect legit question."

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"Didn't sting me James just allowed you to overreach in one blog post. Was a pleasure to shred it"

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"Oh and James don't write a blog attacking me, making yourself look a fool, and not expect me to metaphorically stomp over you."

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"Stomping is perfectly called for metaphorically if you launch a personal attack on me and don't even tag me in."

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I'm terribly sorry, Neil, but I don't respond to intimidation. Not now, not ever. If you really find it so unspeakably beastly to have your views subject to scrutiny, dissection and criticism in a public space, all I can suggest is that you refrain from participating in discussions on public forums in future. Indeed, that might be a good idea for more reasons than one.

21 comments:

  1. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CFLej2OjoanYH54oUO5wNvdAwsCRHnAifJZl0uguqIg/mobilebasic

    James I've no problem with your last blog post as it made you look a fool and gave me the opportunity to shred it.

    What your readers must think? After paying good money to support your blog they find you using it as a platform to launch personal attacks and then to have the gall to play the victim when someone responds clinically to your nonsense.

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  2. I hope you're noting, Neil, that I haven't deleted your comment. Contrary to your bizarre claim, I've never deleted anything of yours. I only ever delete comments on this blog in extreme circumstances.

    Do you have a shred piece? Crikey, why didn't you mention it before! I read it yesterday, and there are a number of inaccuracies, and also parts where you fundamentally misunderstand the point I was making. For example, I wasn't suggesting for a moment that Labour were favourites to win the 2007 election before polling day - but they were very, very heavy favourites after the count started, and were priced at a greater than 90% chance to win for several hours after BBC Scotland viewers had been told that the SNP were winning.

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  3. He's really not worth the effort James!

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  4. Don't worry, the copying and pasting took very little effort!

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  5. Having read through the personal attacks on you I have the impression that this britNatz is a member of the establishment... exactly where he is or where he rates himself within the official britNatz community is one of his own little secrets... regretfully like the other quislings he seems to think that we YES true Scots are shrinking violets.... very... very silly..

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  6. Neil comes across as one of these people who were ignored as children. He probably has a need to feel important.

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  7. Sam : To be fair, Neil seemed like a perfectly reasonable guy when I first encountered him. But as soon as I dared to cast doubt on the reliability of his beloved odds market, I felt the full "wrath of a risk assessor scorned", and there was no way back.

    The impression I get is that he comes from quite a privileged background, and is therefore a default opponent of independence, and that he does the Scott Hastings thing of working backwards to dream up justifications for his pre-set beliefs. That's fine - I don't begrudge anyone their political views, no matter how they're shaped.

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  8. Gotta say - I think you always over-estimate how interested everyone is in a blow-by-blow description of your latest 'people arguing on the Internet' drama, James.

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  9. I know you do, Commentor, because we've had this discussion before! This is the kind of thing I occasionally blog about - other blogs are available for people who don't like it, or alternatively you can just skip the posts that interest you less.

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  10. How come the iref 'winners' seem so worked up / stressed out yet the 'losers' are up-beat?

    I guess if Yes had started with a huge lead and slowly lost that with No finally victorious with the SNP etc subsequently collapsing with in-fighting things might be different.

    Instead, the rather the opposite happened. Yes won the arguments and closed the gap massively, only just not quite getting there. It continues though; after all, less than 1 in 20 who said No need to change their mind...

    You can almost smell the fear in Labour about next May. Was likely wise to keep the iref celebrations low-key.

    I love getting up in the mornings and checking yougov now.

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  11. Somewhat 'brave' for any self-proclaimed 'betting expert' to try and convince us of the reliability of the betting markets on today of all days.




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    Clegg NOT to lead LibDems into GE2015 price slashed from 13/2 to 2/1 after flood of bets overnight http://pdy.pr/m0U1Nr


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    Rumour mill continues to point to Nick Clegg announcing his departure today. Bet available at 5/6 here: http://pdy.pr/zFrQ4w




    So how did that turn out then?


    LOL

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  12. James, I admire your work here but I really want to give you a very hard slap on the side of the head. Do not engage with trolls. Or fools either, though it's hard to tell the difference. A brief paragraph on why you disagree is enough. And enough is enough.

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  13. Vronsky : I've barely engaged with Neil for several weeks, because I've had him on mute (ie. I'm no longer notified on Twitter when he responds to me). But it's become obvious that he's taken advantage of my silence to attempt to trash my reputation, and dealing with that is more than a question of a brief paragraph about a 'disagreement'.

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  14. BritNat loon - best left alone raving in an echo chamber.

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  15. Just goes to show how tedious trolls are.

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  16. I had the misfortune to argue, reasonably I thought, with this guy until I realised that he endlessly puts out opinion and then waits for the fish to nibble!

    You are right to engage to counter his epistles, but it's a hard slog.

    I gave up!

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  17. Feck me, get a life Mr lovatt. If you don't like what you see, troll on; preferably somewhere your rambling will be appreciated.
    JimnArlene
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    James; there seems to be a lot of this, Unionist spleen letting, on various sites. One would assume they lost......tick tock.

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  18. There seems to be a curse attached to the lovatt name. So many of them are morons or scum and met very unpleasant ends.

    Who is N Lovatt and why should we care that they are demonstrating their lack of brain cells in public?

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  19. wee jock poo-pong mcplopOctober 8, 2014 at 8:38 PM

    You're quite right to expose this inane nastiness for what it is, James. I have been impressed several times at your patience with idiots-with-a-keyboard; amazed at some of the things you have chosen not to delete. So many of Mr Lovatt's accusations are clearly false. More power to you.....

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  20. "What your readers must think?"

    Seriously Neil, you don't want to know what we think. Trust me on that one.

    I'd respectfully suggest that maybe you have a tad too much time on your hands.

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  21. The thing to remember about people like Neil Lovatt is that no one will go to their funerals. Says it all, really.

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